What's the easiest way to print PDFs on Windows 10 with privacy?

On 11/29/2017 6:12 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 29/11/2017 8:14 AM, Gianni Turri wrote:

Use the free version of PDFCreator
http://www.pdfforge.org/pdfcreator

And use older versions to escape from ads... I think it's 0.9.6!

The last version that I am using without ads is 1.7.3. This is the
last version before they went to the new interface.

I PDFCreator mainly to create multipage PDF. In my opinion it is much
easier to use for that purpose.

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He who is Keith Nuttle said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:46:10 -0500:

The last version that I am using without ads is 1.7.3. This is the
last version before they went to the new interface.

I PDFCreator mainly to create multipage PDF. In my opinion it is much
easier to use for that purpose.

Is this a reasonable place to get PDFCreator version 1.7.1?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf...es/PDFCreator/

Or, here should I get PDFCreator Version 1.7.1 here?
http://jcdiaz.net/jcd-downloads/PDFCreator%201.7.1.htm

This guy recommends "doPDF" instead of PDFCreator because of the adware.
https://community.spiceworks.com/scr...dware-toolbars

The videos YOU linked to showing how poorly Android handles even part of the
stated task poorly:

https://youtu.be/cywLOctCrCs
https://youtu.be/bYDvgoYSVSU
https://youtu.be/G0sKTWfHHnk
https://youtu.be/TfvtREsCQDY

Those videos claim Android handles the task so poorly that to even get the
first line requires extra hardware. You even claimed the list "goes on
forever". Wow... YOU showed Android is far worse at this than I thought!

And now that you get that you are having a very emotional toddler tantrum.
Which I am feeding.

He who is harry newton said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 03:49:38 +0000 (UTC):

When printing to PDFCreator, in the save dialog you have the ability
to change/delete the Author name.

Thanks. Here's my log file.

http://download.pdfforge.org/downloa...Creator-stable
version 3.0.2. Free. Contains ads. 28.8 MB

Keith Nuttle suggested one of the last free versions of PDFCreator
sans adware being version 1.7.1, which I downloaded from he

http://jcdiaz.net/jcd-downloads/PDFCreator%201.7.1.htm

The videos YOU linked to showing how poorly Android handles even part of the
stated task poorly:

https://youtu.be/cywLOctCrCs
https://youtu.be/bYDvgoYSVSU
https://youtu.be/G0sKTWfHHnk
https://youtu.be/TfvtREsCQDY

Those videos claim Android handles the task so poorly that to even get the
first line requires extra hardware. You even claimed the list "goes on
forever". Wow... YOU showed Android is far worse at this than I thought!

And now that you get that you are having a very emotional toddler tantrum.
Which I am feeding.

On 11/29/2017 7:18 AM, harry newton wrote:
He who is Keith Nuttle said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:46:10 -0500:

The last version that I am using without ads is 1.7.3.Â*Â* This is the
last version before they went to the new interface.

I PDFCreator mainly to create multipage PDF.Â* In my opinion it is much
easier to use for that purpose.

Is this a reasonable place to get PDFCreator version 1.7.1?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf...es/PDFCreator/

Or, here should I get PDFCreator Version 1.7.1 here?
http://jcdiaz.net/jcd-downloads/PDFCreator%201.7.1.htm

This guy recommends "doPDF" instead of PDFCreator because of the adware.
https://community.spiceworks.com/scr...dware-toolbars

I always use the original web site for all my downloads when possible,
OR Sourceforge.net

I have started downloading Irfanview from other websites, because when
you go to Irfanview.net to download the program you are directed to
outside sites.

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"harry newton" wrote

| Keith Nuttle suggested one of the last free versions of PDFCreator
| sans adware being version 1.7.1, which I downloaded from he
|
| http://jcdiaz.net/jcd-downloads/PDFCreator%201.7.1.htm

I'm using v. 2.5.24, which has no ads. There is a button
in the top corner to download some other program the
company makes, but it's just a small ad, out of the way,
for their own product. And there's a "search bar" that
provides links to search engines. I just delete all those
and disable online search in the settings.

"GS" wrote

| I use Libre Office Writer for creating PDFs. Other than
| adding "Libre Office" and "Writer" to the properties
| it only shows obvious things like file size, name, etc.
|
| This approach offers the same settings as Adobe Acrobat and other PDF
editors,
| but it's missing the file description tab in the dialog for
entering/editing
| these document properties...

I don't follow. Are you talking about a Property Page
for PDF in Explorer, that shows with right-click -
Properties? That would be a different thing and would
depend on Windows version and/or installed software.

Harry was asking for something that doesn't automatically
retrieve his username and insert it into the "metadata"
of the file when saving.

"GS" wrote

I use Libre Office Writer for creating PDFs. Other than
adding "Libre Office" and "Writer" to the properties
it only shows obvious things like file size, name, etc.

This approach offers the same settings as Adobe Acrobat and other PDF
editors, but it's missing the file description tab in the dialog for
entering/editing these document properties...

I don't follow. Are you talking about a Property Page
for PDF in Explorer, that shows with right-click -
Properties? That would be a different thing and would
depend on Windows version and/or installed software.

No, that doesn't allow editing this metadata that way by default as these are
essentially *Custom* props that used to be available when Windows supported the
NTFS file properties. They are now *Document* properties of whatever software
that creates the file.

Adobe Acrobat and Nuance Power PDF allow you to edit this data via a
*Description* page/tab in their "Properties" dialog. I suspect other PDF
editing software does same! Readers do not! File explorers such as WE and
PowerDesk do not offer a "Custom" page/tab in their "Properties" dialogs.

Harry was asking for something that doesn't automatically
retrieve his username and insert it into the "metadata"
of the file when saving.

I recall seeing an option to exclude this data, but can't place which software
this was offered by. I would have thought, for example, that the PDF feature in
LibreOffice offered this, or newer versions of MS Office.

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Ok, just checked in MSO2010 using SaveAs and selecting PDF as the filetype. It
has an *Options* dialog where you can exclude Document properties by
deselecting the (default) option to "include" them.

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"GS" wrote

| Harry was asking for something that doesn't automatically
| retrieve his username and insert it into the "metadata"
| of the file when saving.
|
| I recall seeing an option to exclude this data, but can't place which
software
| this was offered by. I would have thought, for example, that the PDF
feature in
| LibreOffice offered this, or newer versions of MS Office.

Libre Office does not add it. That's what I was
saying. Nor does PDF XChange Viewer. Just about
anything but Adobe products should be clean.

Libre Office doesn't even have such options in the
save dialogue. It can add a password or digital
signature, but not an author name.

Adobe, like MS, have historically pushed their own
formats as a standard for corporate business use --
which is the only place where security restrictions
and personal metadata make sense.

Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-11-28 23:31, Paul wrote:
[...]
The Whe field says "FILE" and there was some
trick to it that I don't remember. Because you don't
want it looking for an actual printer.

Paul

The Print dialogue includes Foxit Printer in its list of printers.
Selecting it creates PDF of the file and immediately displays it. (I
installed Foxit PhantomPDF).

However, any document created with a document creator will by default
list the User as the "owner" the document. It seems OP needs a filter
that will strip that ID from the meta-data. I don't think there's an
easy way to do that, as the number of posts in this thread demonstrate
only too clearly.

The Print dialogue lists all other virtual printers, eg, Microsoft XPS
Document Writer.


The objective of "Print to PostScript", is the output
is human-readable, and using Notepad (or a script),
you can blank out any %% metadata fields you like.
If you see your name in the text anywhere, it's
easy to delete.

Once you've edited the PostScript, you can distill
it with GhostScript.

The idea is to have the print in a textual
representation, making surgery a little easier.

*******

Sometimes, when you open a PDF and then print to PostScript,
your distiller will refuse to distill the PostScript back
into PDF (yes, it's a "laundry procedure"). If this happens,
using Notepad, look for this.

%% Removing the following eleven lines is illegal, subject to the Digital Copyright Act of 1998.
mark currentfile eexec
54dc5232e897cbaaa7584b7da7c23a6c59e7451851159cdbf4 0334cc2600
30036a856fabb196b3ddab71514d79106c969797b119ae4379 c5ac9b7318
33471fc81a8e4b87bac59f7003cddaebea2a741c4e80818b4b 136660994b
18a85d6b60e3c6b57cc0815fe834bc82704ac2caf0b6e228ce 1b2218c8c7
67e87aef6db14cd38dda844c855b4e9c46d510cab8fdaa521d 67cbb83ee1
af966cc79653b9aca2a5f91f908bbd3f06ecc0c940097ec77e 210e6184dc
2f5777aacfc6907d43f1edb490a2a89c9af5b90ff126c0c3c5 da9ae99f59
d47040be1c0336205bf3c6169b1b01cd78f922ec384cd0fcab 955c0c20de
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000
cleartomark

That's the blocker, in plain sight. Once that paragraph is
deleted, the PostScript has a chance of being distilled
again. The printer driver emits that into the output stream,
for you to trip over.

It's nice of them to put targeting sights on that paragraph,
making it easy to locate. I thought it was pretty funny
at the time. That's the "Do Not Distill" blob.

Paul

"GS" wrote

Harry was asking for something that doesn't automatically
retrieve his username and insert it into the "metadata"
of the file when saving.

I recall seeing an option to exclude this data, but can't place which
software this was offered by. I would have thought, for example, that the
PDF feature in LibreOffice offered this, or newer versions of MS Office.

Libre Office does not add it. That's what I was
saying. Nor does PDF XChange Viewer. Just about
anything but Adobe products should be clean.

Libre Office doesn't even have such options in the
save dialogue. It can add a password or digital
signature, but not an author name.

Adobe, like MS, have historically pushed their own
formats as a standard for corporate business use --
which is the only place where security restrictions
and personal metadata make sense.

The Adobe/Nuance products I mention are what I use for creating ebooks,
userguides, and instruction manuals. The Nuance product more accurately sets
bookmark destinations and the Nuance PDF Reader more accurately navigates these
than the Adobe-based readers do. This, of course, is controlled by the
"Settings"; -I use Single Continuous and 100% zoom by default with the
Bookmarks navigation panel displayed.

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 05:28:09 -0700, Snit
wrote:

The videos YOU linked to showing how poorly Android handles even part of the
stated task poorly:

https://youtu.be/cywLOctCrCs
https://youtu.be/bYDvgoYSVSU
https://youtu.be/G0sKTWfHHnk
https://youtu.be/TfvtREsCQDY

Those videos claim Android handles the task so poorly that to even get the
first line requires extra hardware. You even claimed the list "goes on
forever". Wow... YOU showed Android is far worse at this than I thought!

And now that you get that you are having a very emotional toddler tantrum.
Which I am feeding.

See above as a perfect example of what kind of an asshole Snit is and
why he is binned everywhere he goes. Don't wait two decades to filter
him out of your group like the Linux advocates did.

He who is Keith Nuttle said on Wed, 29 Nov 2017 07:40:51 -0500:

I always use the original web site for all my downloads when possible,
OR Sourceforge.net

I do too but I couldn't find the suggested older version of PDF Creator on
the official web site.

It was on Sourceforge in source code format only as far as I could tell.

So I was pretty much stuck without a paddle.