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Notification on Taskbar When Win7 Updates are Available?
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:42:47 -0700, ...winston? wrote: Spalls Hurgenson wrote: Anyway, uninstall these patches - especially the first - and you should be good. Note there will probably be a new patch this November (if they haven't released it yet already). KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows July 2015 KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows August 2015 KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows September 2015 KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows October 2015 Probably useless. All the above are minor and partial updates to the Windows Update client engine. When the next major WU Cient Engine is deployed (not by KB but by automatic install without user intervention per the EULA and like the past 12 yrs) all the above removals will no longer be relevant. While in the long run its utility may be in doubt - Microsoft very much wants to be in control of the OS, standardizing everyone as much as they can on one and only one version so as to ease support once they finally jump to software-as-a-service - at the current time it is not useless. Remove those updates (and "hide" them to make sure they don't get reinstalled) and the update badge comes back. And while MS maintains the "right" to update the client invisibly, I've never actually seen them do it. Their updates have always been optional. The only exception is when I went to the WU site using Internet Explorer and it would update the plugin automatically, but even there it gave a message informing me that it was doing so. The auto-updating of the Windows Update 'Agent' engine (not Client) doesn't happen often, sometimes once or twice a year. For Win7 and 8, iirc there have been 5 in the last two years combined though one of the 8's was bundled with the 8.1 Update. The most recent for both 7 and 8x was July 2015. The Agent Update doesn't depend on accessing the WU site via IE. As long as WU is enabled 'on' in any mode (automatic or notify) the WU Agent will be installed automatically. Once complete, it may or may not prompt for a restart. Another observation and consistent with Agent updates is that Windows Update won't perform any task until the Agent is replaced with the required version. -- ....winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Notification on Taskbar When Win7 Updates are Available?
B00ze wrote:
On 2015-11-12 18:26, wrote: I tried addressing this earlier, but have not found the solution to my problem. For some reason, I am not getting the notifications of updates for Win7 on the Taskbar as I was getting before. What do I have to set to starting getting the notifications again? Thanks for any insights and/or educational tips charliec For me what made the icon disappear was an update to the Windows Update client. REMOVING that update fixed the problem. I have since decided NOT to install any further updates to the Windows Update client. Try removing one of the following (I suspect each of these replace the previous one, so you should have only 1): KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows July 2015 KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows August 2015 KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows September 2015 KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows October 2015 Best Regards, One can avoid the Windows Update Client updates since they are deployed via WU. What can not be avoided are Windows Update Agent updates - deployed and installed automatically if WU is set to automatic or notify. - One can prevent the partial client updates but only until and eventually an Agent update occurs. The Client KB's then become past tense and any effort to hide them no longer applicable. -- ....winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Notification on Taskbar When Win7 Updates are Available?
On 2015-11-16 23:53, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 22:13:09 -0500, B00ze wrote: On 2015-11-12 18:26, wrote: I tried addressing this earlier, but have not found the solution to my problem. For some reason, I am not getting the notifications of updates for Win7 on the Taskbar as I was getting before. What do I have to set to starting getting the notifications again? Thanks for any insights and/or educational tips charliec For me what made the icon disappear was an update to the Windows Update client. REMOVING that update fixed the problem. I have since decided NOT to install any further updates to the Windows Update client. Try removing one of the following (I suspect each of these replace the previous one, so you should have only 1): KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows July 2015 KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows August 2015 KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows September 2015 KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows October 2015 Best Regards, I looked at the Oct one and it was marked as Optional. The one is Sept is still there and it was marked as Important. So, it appears the latest is not replacing the previous one? None of those 2 are INSTALLED. So the supposedly buggy one is August. You have to go to control panel, in Programs and Features, click on View Installed Updates on the left, and type KB3075851 (or KB3065987) in the search gadget on the top right. Uninstall that one, reboot, then wait some time, see if the icon reappears. I have nothing against WU updates, and I will install one the day that the update description says "Fixed a problem where the WU icon disappears". In the meantime I just hide them. Best Regards. -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/Planetary-Society-+- oO-( )-Oo Fire at Will. No, No WORF! Not Commander Riker! |
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Notification on Taskbar When Win7 Updates are Available?
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 19:41:23 -0500, B00ze wrote:
On 2015-11-16 23:53, wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 22:13:09 -0500, B00ze wrote: On 2015-11-12 18:26, wrote: I tried addressing this earlier, but have not found the solution to my problem. For some reason, I am not getting the notifications of updates for Win7 on the Taskbar as I was getting before. What do I have to set to starting getting the notifications again? Thanks for any insights and/or educational tips charliec For me what made the icon disappear was an update to the Windows Update client. REMOVING that update fixed the problem. I have since decided NOT to install any further updates to the Windows Update client. Try removing one of the following (I suspect each of these replace the previous one, so you should have only 1): KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows July 2015 KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows August 2015 KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows September 2015 KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows October 2015 Best Regards, I looked at the Oct one and it was marked as Optional. The one is Sept is still there and it was marked as Important. So, it appears the latest is not replacing the previous one? None of those 2 are INSTALLED. So the supposedly buggy one is August. You have to go to control panel, in Programs and Features, click on View Installed Updates on the left, and type KB3075851 (or KB3065987) in the search gadget on the top right. Uninstall that one, reboot, then wait some time, see if the icon reappears. I have nothing against WU updates, and I will install one the day that the update description says "Fixed a problem where the WU icon disappears". In the meantime I just hide them. Best Regards. Let us know what happens later. Will be interesting to hear! Thanks |
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