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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:28:15 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:09:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Paul wrote: He won't tell you. If you ask for details on more than one extremely basic detail, he might address only one. I think we're dealing with a troll here. Not a troll. [snip] You still haven't told us what you've being asked, which was not about the nics and the OSs, but about how they're connected to the internet. Therefore, still a troll. -- ================================================== ====== Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's header does not exist. Or use a contact address at: http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:29:06 +0100, Java Jive
wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:28:15 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:09:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Paul wrote: He won't tell you. If you ask for details on more than one extremely basic detail, he might address only one. I think we're dealing with a troll here. Not a troll. [snip] You still haven't told us what you've being asked, which was not about the nics and the OSs, but about how they're connected to the internet. Therefore, still a troll. I really thought I had said that I was connected via the stated hardware via CAT5 to a Verizon router. Love Johnny |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:29:06 +0100, Java Jive wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:28:15 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:09:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Paul wrote: He won't tell you. If you ask for details on more than one extremely basic detail, he might address only one. I think we're dealing with a troll here. Not a troll. [snip] You still haven't told us what you've being asked, which was not about the nics and the OSs, but about how they're connected to the internet. Therefore, still a troll. I really thought I had said that I was connected via the stated hardware via CAT5 to a Verizon router. Love Johnny The OS should not attempt to use PPPOE and throw three digit error codes... unless the broadband device on the edge of your home setup is running "bridged". Mine runs bridged, but it is followed by a router, like this. RJ11 ---- ADSL Modem/router --- Separate Router box --------- Regular LAN connection "Bridged Mode" terminates PPPOE, No PPPOE needed in Windows VPI 0 VCI 35 Enter user/pass in the Windows thinks it's a LAN setup screen of this box If you want to run it this way, you'll have to take your lumps RJ11 ---- ADSL Modem/router --- Windows must terminate PPPOE. "Bridged Mode" A Windows dialog passes user/password VPI 0 VCI 35 Three-digit error codes if you **** up HTH, Paul |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:29:06 +0100, Java Jive wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:28:15 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:09:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Paul wrote: He won't tell you. If you ask for details on more than one extremely basic detail, he might address only one. I think we're dealing with a troll here. Not a troll. [snip] You still haven't told us what you've being asked, which was not about the nics and the OSs, but about how they're connected to the internet. Therefore, still a troll. I really thought I had said that I was connected via the stated hardware via CAT5 to a Verizon router. Love Johnny Since you now say "Verizon router" (no, you never before mentioned to WHAT your PC was connected), is that actually a separate router or combination router+modem unit? Since you say "Verizon", it is probably a combo unit. You have also not responded to the inquiry of whether you have DSL or cable hookup to your ISP. PPOE should only be used if you are using DSL. Are you? What is the brand and model of the "router"? It might have a "Verizon" sticker on it but the label on the box might say different. PPOE is something configured in your router to interface with a DSL modem. You don't use PPOE in your PC when connecting it to a router. You would use PPOE for the PC's connectoid *if* the PC were directly connected to a DSL modem. And, as previously mentioned, have you deleted the connectoid you have defined in Windows (Control Panel - Network and Sharing Center) and created a new connectoid (that does NOT use PPOE)? Oops, I've asked about more than one thing: - Are you using DSL or cable for access to your ISP (Internet)? - The brand and model of "router"? - Delete existing connectoid in Windows and create a new non-PPOE one. If you don't want to tell us, call Verizon (or whomever is your ISP) and ask them about proper configuration in Windows for it to interface with whatever "router" you are using that has their brand on it. |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:32:33 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:29:06 +0100, Java Jive wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 05:28:15 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:09:38 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Paul wrote: He won't tell you. If you ask for details on more than one extremely basic detail, he might address only one. I think we're dealing with a troll here. Not a troll. [snip] You still haven't told us what you've being asked, which was not about the nics and the OSs, but about how they're connected to the internet. Therefore, still a troll. I really thought I had said that I was connected via the stated hardware via CAT5 to a Verizon router. Love Johnny Since you now say "Verizon router" (no, you never before mentioned to WHAT your PC was connected), is that actually a separate router or combination router+modem unit? Since you say "Verizon", it is probably a combo unit. You have also not responded to the inquiry of whether you have DSL or cable hookup to your ISP. PPOE should only be used if you are using DSL. Are you? What is the brand and model of the "router"? It might have a "Verizon" sticker on it but the label on the box might say different. PPOE is something configured in your router to interface with a DSL modem. You don't use PPOE in your PC when connecting it to a router. You would use PPOE for the PC's connectoid *if* the PC were directly connected to a DSL modem. And, as previously mentioned, have you deleted the connectoid you have defined in Windows (Control Panel - Network and Sharing Center) and created a new connectoid (that does NOT use PPOE)? Oops, I've asked about more than one thing: - Are you using DSL or cable for access to your ISP (Internet)? - The brand and model of "router"? - Delete existing connectoid in Windows and create a new non-PPOE one. If you don't want to tell us, call Verizon (or whomever is your ISP) and ask them about proper configuration in Windows for it to interface with whatever "router" you are using that has their brand on it I'll try to come up with answers to all your Q's. But I am surprised I am having all this trouble since I already have a W10 PC and a multi-boot W7-W8-W10 PC both Cat5-connected to the router. And a W7 laptop and a Samsung tablet also linked wireless to it. I have had these for some time. No problems in this area. I have Verizon FIOS BTW. This problem Dell PC is just an extra given to me, and I wanted to upgrade it, and maybe get a few bucks for it. Bad idea. Thanks JW |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:17:45 -0400, wrote:
I'll try to come up with answers to all your Q's. But I am surprised I am having all this trouble since I already have a W10 PC and a multi-boot W7-W8-W10 PC both Cat5-connected to the router. And a W7 laptop and a Samsung tablet also linked wireless to it. I have had these for some time. No problems in this area. First thing, eliminate the simplest things first ... did you try a different cable and a different port on router, as I suggested earlier? I have Verizon FIOS BTW. This problem Dell PC is just an extra given to me, and I wanted to upgrade it ... Error 678 is mentioned here (beware linewrap in the URL), and, next to a cabling issue, the firewall looks the most likely of the causes listed: "Windows XP SP2 causes Error 678 or Error 769 when you try to surf the Internet" https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...f-the-internet -- ================================================== ====== Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's header does not exist. Or use a contact address at: http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html |
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But I am surprised I am having all this trouble Probably because you never answer the questions for more details. Brand and model number of router. No response from you. Separate router or combo router+modem unit. No response. What type of connectoid is defined in Windows 7. No response. Since you don't want to give the details, I'm done with your deliberately vague responses. Go talk to Verizon. They probably won't be able to do anthing, either, with the dearth of details that you provide and unwillingness to respond. Bye bye. Enjoy working out this problem on that vague setup. |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 22:10:56 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
wrote: But I am surprised I am having all this trouble Probably because you never answer the questions for more details. Brand and model number of router. No response from you. Separate router or combo router+modem unit. No response. What type of connectoid is defined in Windows 7. No response. Since you don't want to give the details, I'm done with your deliberately vague responses. Go talk to Verizon. They probably won't be able to do anthing, either, with the dearth of details that you provide and unwillingness to respond. Bye bye. Enjoy working out this problem on that vague setup. You hung in there longer than I did. -- Char Jackson |
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 22:10:56 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
wrote: But I am surprised I am having all this trouble Probably because you never answer the questions for more details. Brand and model number of router. No response from you. Router very non-descript Verizon QC WIFI No brandname nor model # Separate router or combo router+modem unit. No response. Router currently cat5-connected to this W10 PC plus a second W7/W10 PC plus wireless-connected to a laptop and tablet. All work with router just fine. What type of connectoid is defined in Windows 7. No response. Not sure what a connectoid is - even after looking term up. Subject W7 PC 'has no internet connection'. Device Manager shows one network adapter - Broadcom 440X10/100 integrated controller which is on the mobo. I added a PCI Netgear interface card to try a second internect connection - as of now it is not recognized even tho I installed driver I have (which could be wrong I guess) - FA310 FA310TX v4.02. The card is id'ed - Netgear FA310TX REV-D2 LC82C160C 0002A H3634-000. Since you don't want to give the details, I'm done with your deliberately vague responses. Go talk to Verizon. They probably won't be able to do anthing, either, with the dearth of details that you provide and unwillingness to respond. ok Bye bye. Enjoy working out this problem on that vague setup. |
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