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  #16  
Old March 15th 19, 07:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

Average Person wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 13:44:10 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main
reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started
it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what
everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania.


You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-)
I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him.
The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing,
professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about
Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-)

But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one.
:-)


I can relate to that. I have photoshop 7. Got it free, so I installed
it. I rarely use it. I prefer my old Paint shop pro, from when that was
still shareware. I dont want or need all the bloat in Photoshop, or even
the newer versions of PSP. The older PSP does all I need, and I do a lot
of detailed graphic editing. Simple is often better than bloated. And
when I find software that works, I dont want to have to keep re-learning
it, when there is no real advantage.

Thats also why I keep using XP. I dont want or need all the bloated crap
in windows 10. or even 8.x, or 7. The software companies keep adding
crap so they can sell updates. NOT because we need or even want it.


Yup. I still use an old version of PSP. Photoshop is too heavy for me.
Even Adobe Audition is a bit heavy, except for the good old version (1.5),
which started out as CoolEditPro, and was later resold to Adobe to become
bloatware.

I''ll be on XP until it isn't possible anymore, most likely due to the
browser limitations. But so far the latest XP versions of Firefox and
Chrome are working pretty well. But it's probably just a matter of time
before we're forced into Windows 7, at a minimum. I find Win7 to be a bit
of a PIA, due to all the permissions and ownership junk occasionally getting
in my way when I'm using Windows Explorer.


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  #17  
Old March 15th 19, 07:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 12:31:06 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

Average Person wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 13:44:10 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main
reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started
it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what
everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania.

You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-)
I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him.
The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing,
professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about
Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-)

But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one.
:-)


I can relate to that. I have photoshop 7. Got it free, so I installed
it. I rarely use it. I prefer my old Paint shop pro, from when that was
still shareware. I dont want or need all the bloat in Photoshop, or even
the newer versions of PSP. The older PSP does all I need, and I do a lot
of detailed graphic editing. Simple is often better than bloated. And
when I find software that works, I dont want to have to keep re-learning
it, when there is no real advantage.

Thats also why I keep using XP. I dont want or need all the bloated crap
in windows 10. or even 8.x, or 7. The software companies keep adding
crap so they can sell updates. NOT because we need or even want it.


Yup. I still use an old version of PSP. Photoshop is too heavy for me.
Even Adobe Audition is a bit heavy, except for the good old version (1.5),
which started out as CoolEditPro, and was later resold to Adobe to become
bloatware.

I''ll be on XP until it isn't possible anymore, most likely due to the
browser limitations. But so far the latest XP versions of Firefox and
Chrome are working pretty well. But it's probably just a matter of time
before we're forced into Windows 7, at a minimum. I find Win7 to be a bit
of a PIA, due to all the permissions and ownership junk occasionally getting
in my way when I'm using Windows Explorer.


I actually have 3 versions of PSP (3, 4 & 7). Each one has features I
like that do not seem to be in the others or is too cumbersome to use.
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Old March 16th 19, 10:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

Paul wrote:


"I believe Shotcut (using same libraries as Kdenlive) offers w32 builds"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotcut

https://www.shotcut.org/download/

What I can't tell you, is how long that will
run without crashing. At least the KDEnlive,
I was able to "edit" my movie a tiny bit.


I tried that (not in WinXP, just whatever I had open
at the time), and I couldn't really figure out how
to use it.

It looks for all the world, like that isn't a traditional
NLE, and you drop "shots" on the timeline.

Say you shot 1:30 of video with three scenes. With
KDEnlive, you could snip at 30 seconds, 60 seconds,
and put two transitions between the marked areas.

With Shotcut, somehow, magically, you'd need the
video you show, already snipped into three pieces.
You would drop the first 30 seconds on the time line,
do something to the end maybe, then drop the second
30 seconds worth, and so on. That's all I can
figure, and since all I had handy was a 3 hour video
that wasn't already chopped up, I had nothing to
add to the end of it.

It didn't crash, and that was my first criterion
for open source video editors. Anything more than
that, I guess I'd have to use one of their
tutorials or something. Just so I can understand
what the concept is, and what "kind" of editor it is.
It looks like an editor for working at the "clip" level,
without the ability to edit portions later. I couldn't
find any "marker" icons on the tool bar, to mark anything.
And every control I reached for, mentioned "deleting",
which is not a good sign.

Paul
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Old March 29th 19, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:39:24 -0600, wrote:

What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3)

I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4
files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless....


Is it possible to beat Shotcut freeware on either price or functionality?
https://www.shotcut.org/download/
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Old March 29th 19, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

BillAhearn wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:39:24 -0600, wrote:

What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3)

I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4
files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless....


Is it possible to beat Shotcut freeware on either price or functionality?
https://www.shotcut.org/download/


Looks like it requires Windows 7 and at least 4 GB of RAM. Other than that
... :-) But the OP was asking about Windows XP.


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Old March 29th 19, 09:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

BillAhearn wrote:
On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 23:39:24 -0600, wrote:

What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3)

I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4
files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless....


Is it possible to beat Shotcut freeware on either price or functionality?
https://www.shotcut.org/download/


If it's freeware, why not test it and see.

I know what's wrong with it, but you should give it
a try as well, and give your considered opinion.

Maybe you'll figure out where the controls are
that I missed.

Paul
  #24  
Old March 29th 19, 10:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillAhearn
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 16:16:05 -0400, wrote:

If it's freeware, why not test it and see.

I know what's wrong with it, but you should give it
a try as well, and give your considered opinion.

Maybe you'll figure out where the controls are
that I missed.


I've used it Shotcut on Win7 but only with the most very basic of things.
I saw your post where you tried to assemble 3 short segments.

Is that what you mean by the controls you missed?

The nice thing about Shotcut is that since it's new many of the tutorials
are current so you don't need to hunt for the menus. You hunt for the
tutorial instead.

Do these steps show you how to blend three videos into one with shotcut?
https://www.reddit.com/r/shotcut/com...deos_into_one/

If not here's a tutorial on the "multi track time line basics" with shotcut
Shotcut Tutorial: Multitrack Timeline Basics

And here's a tutorial on joining 2 clips together with shotcut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtkT2UGbCF8

This is how to combine many videos into one video with shotcut


The not so good news is that Shotcut will only work with Win7 and up
according to what Bill in Co said which is probably true as I use it on
Win7.
  #25  
Old March 30th 19, 01:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default What software is used to edit MP4 videos?

BillAhearn wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 16:16:05 -0400, wrote:

If it's freeware, why not test it and see.

I know what's wrong with it, but you should give it
a try as well, and give your considered opinion.

Maybe you'll figure out where the controls are
that I missed.


I've used it Shotcut on Win7 but only with the most very basic of things.
I saw your post where you tried to assemble 3 short segments.

Is that what you mean by the controls you missed?

The nice thing about Shotcut is that since it's new many of the tutorials
are current so you don't need to hunt for the menus. You hunt for the
tutorial instead.

Do these steps show you how to blend three videos into one with shotcut?
https://www.reddit.com/r/shotcut/com...deos_into_one/

If not here's a tutorial on the "multi track time line basics" with shotcut
Shotcut Tutorial: Multitrack Timeline Basics

And here's a tutorial on joining 2 clips together with shotcut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtkT2UGbCF8

This is how to combine many videos into one video with shotcut


The not so good news is that Shotcut will only work with Win7 and up
according to what Bill in Co said which is probably true as I use it on
Win7.


But there's no transition between segments though.

Either you have to be lucky, and each segment already fades to black
at the end. As even if you take a clip and cut it in two somehow,
the ends on the cut have nothing as well. You're perhaps in the
middle of a scene.

That's one part I didn't understand.

You can arrange clips, put them end to end, and render
them out. But that's really nothing different than using
concatenate in FFMPEG, and concatenating segments (with
no transition between them).

Paul
 




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