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Never mind! Defrag Tools
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of
fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. |
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Never mind! Defrag Tools
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of
fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. |
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Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM:
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. |
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Never mind! Defrag Tools
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM:
Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. |
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-- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS What was the cluster size on the FAT32 partition? -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Thanks, I'll try it on one of my NTFS partitions. "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo |
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-- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS What was the cluster size on the FAT32 partition? -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Thanks, I'll try it on one of my NTFS partitions. "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo |
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"Big_Al" wrote in message
... Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM: Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. Yes, but displaying that graphic puts even more load on the system. Defragging can take enough out without having the visual sitting on the pile too.. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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"Big_Al" wrote in message
... Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM: Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. Yes, but displaying that graphic puts even more load on the system. Defragging can take enough out without having the visual sitting on the pile too.. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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"Gerry" wrote in message
... Mike There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. There is a benefit. Seeing something happening reassures the user and counters problems resulting from user frustration. The user is less tempted to interupt the process. -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Agreed in principle. I think that the Diskeeper guys got it right. By default, numbers are all you see. If you want a graphic, you can select the option, but when large files have to be moved, the numbers come back until the end, and is if by magic, the graphic re-appears.. Wahhhhhhhhh.. there are big gaps between everything. It hasn't worked.. :-) Central Point has a lot to answer for, don't you think. Mind you, in the days of DOS defraggers, it was nice to see a graphic, I guess.. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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"Gerry" wrote in message
... Mike There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. There is a benefit. Seeing something happening reassures the user and counters problems resulting from user frustration. The user is less tempted to interupt the process. -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Agreed in principle. I think that the Diskeeper guys got it right. By default, numbers are all you see. If you want a graphic, you can select the option, but when large files have to be moved, the numbers come back until the end, and is if by magic, the graphic re-appears.. Wahhhhhhhhh.. there are big gaps between everything. It hasn't worked.. :-) Central Point has a lot to answer for, don't you think. Mind you, in the days of DOS defraggers, it was nice to see a graphic, I guess.. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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Big_Al wrote:
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM: Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. O&O? What's its branded name? I might like to look at that but can't find anything similar to O&O. Thanks, Twayne |
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Big_Al wrote:
Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM: Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. O&O? What's its branded name? I might like to look at that but can't find anything similar to O&O. Thanks, Twayne |
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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"Big_Al" wrote in message ... Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM: Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. Yes, but displaying that graphic puts even more load on the system. Defragging can take enough out without having the visual sitting on the pile too.. True enough; besides, there are more intersting/productive things to do that stare at a screen full of little blocks disappearing/appearing and changing colorsg. That's like watching water boil! Twayne |
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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"Big_Al" wrote in message ... Twayne said this on 3/26/2009 2:51 PM: Never mind: Apparently you're talking about the screen display of fragmentation is represented on the disk. Yes, those are pretty inaccurate. I do recall a time you could tell what file each legend on the screen represented, but that went the way of the dinosaur when drives got so large. Cheers, Twayne Mike Hall - MVP wrote: "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3965 (20090326) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one. It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Actually the O&O defrag tool lets you click on any of the boxes in its graphical display and it will list the files in that cluster. I find it quite nice. Yes, but displaying that graphic puts even more load on the system. Defragging can take enough out without having the visual sitting on the pile too.. True enough; besides, there are more intersting/productive things to do that stare at a screen full of little blocks disappearing/appearing and changing colorsg. That's like watching water boil! Twayne |
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Sorta strange that no one has mentioned PowerDefragger Version: 3.0, Very
simple, fast and best of all, free file/folder/drive defragmentation tool. Core engine is powered by Sysinternals/Microsoft Contig (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...bb897428.aspx). Download: http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip Try it...you might like it. ColTom2 "......" wrote in message ... Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo |
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