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  #16  
Old October 17th 15, 07:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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B00ze wrote:

philo wrote:

J. P. Gilliver wrote:

philo WROTE:

KenK wrote:

Is there any way to tell if am email address still exists?

Thunderbird has a "verify address" function

How does it work?


All I need do is open the address book , then right click on any
address I want to check...and the context menu will give the option
to verify address.


Either you have some AddOn that adds that, or it was added to TB
recently, as I have no Verify menu entry in my TB24...


Perhaps the ThunderPlunger add-on (http://thunderplunger.mozdev.org/).

Right-click on a card shown in the address book window to invoke this
function. A request is sent to a specially-written ThunderPlunger web
service which will do its best to verify the validity of that card's
primary and secondary (if any) email addresses. This is done by
directly communicating with the mail server for the email's domain.

The reason the request goes to a web service is that a client may not be
capable of connecting to the receiving SMTP server. There are lots of
reasons for this: no rDNS on the client's IP address, no MX record at
the client's domain (i.e., it's not an e-mail service for the source),
whitelisting of what SMTP servers can connect to the receiving SMTP
server, lack of an SPF record at the client's nameserver (the client
probably doesn't operate a DNS server), greylisting, and the receiving
SMTP server mandating SSL/TLS connects.

Whether you use ThunderPlunger's enhanced address book properties to
verify an e-mail address which has the request uploaded to a web service
or you use one of the web services that I noted, you end up asking a web
service to behave like an SMTP server (MTA) to do the 'RCPT TO' test to
see if the account exists at the receiving SMTP server.
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Old October 17th 15, 11:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 10/17/2015 12:27 PM, B00ze wrote:
On 2015-10-16 22:53, philo wrote:

On 10/16/2015 02:44 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , philo
writes:
On 10/15/2015 12:26 PM, KenK wrote:
This is a general net question, not strictly XP oriemted. but there
are a
lot of knowledgable people here so...

Is there any way to tell if am email address still exists? Is there
any way
to tell if an email was delivered?

TIA

Thunderbird has a "verify address" function

How does it work?


All I need do is open the address book , then right click on any address
I want to check...and the context menu will give the option to verify
address.

I find it a great feature


Either you have some AddOn that adds that, or it was added to TB
recently, as I have no Verify menu entry in my TB24...



I don't have any add-ons but you have a very old version of TB...it must
be two years old or so.

I am using version 38 and they have had the verify feature for quite
some time


Tools == address book

then just right click on any address you want to check
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Old October 18th 15, 12:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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philo wrote:
On 10/17/2015 12:27 PM, B00ze wrote:
On 2015-10-16 22:53, philo wrote:

On 10/16/2015 02:44 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , philo
writes:
On 10/15/2015 12:26 PM, KenK wrote:
This is a general net question, not strictly XP oriemted. but there
are a
lot of knowledgable people here so...

Is there any way to tell if am email address still exists? Is there
any way
to tell if an email was delivered?

TIA

Thunderbird has a "verify address" function

How does it work?

All I need do is open the address book , then right click on any address
I want to check...and the context menu will give the option to verify
address.

I find it a great feature


Either you have some AddOn that adds that, or it was added to TB
recently, as I have no Verify menu entry in my TB24...



I don't have any add-ons but you have a very old version of TB...it must
be two years old or so.

I am using version 38 and they have had the verify feature for quite
some time


Tools == address book

then just right click on any address you want to check


For those of us who don't, wouldn't just trying to create the address with
your ISP and seeing if it lets you work? (Granted, this would be tedious
if you wanted to try out several addresses). \

Again, except for the potential problem I mentioned in my last post (when
the email address is recycled), and which would still apply here, regardless
of the methods used (at least as I can understand it).


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Old October 18th 15, 02:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 10/17/2015 06:23 PM, Bill in Co wrote:
X and they have had the verify feature for quite
some time


Tools == address book

then just right click on any address you want to check


For those of us who don't, wouldn't just trying to create the address with
your ISP and seeing if it lets you work? (Granted, this would be tedious
if you wanted to try out several addresses). \

Again, except for the potential problem I mentioned in my last post (when
the email address is recycled), and which would still apply here, regardless
of the methods used (at least as I can understand it).





I use the feature for cleaning up my address book.

If there is a name in the I don't remember I may or may not want to
delete it.

But if I check it and it's no longer valid, then I can delete it an not
worry.
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Old October 20th 15, 12:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 2015-10-17 18:33, philo wrote:

I don't have any add-ons but you have a very old version of TB...it must
be two years old or so.


Lol, is it that old already? They changed so many things with the later
releases and introduced so many bugs that I'm waiting for those bugs to
clear-up before updating. I upgrade Firefox a little bit more often, but
with the mail client I'm in no hurry: if it works, don't break it. I
think I went from "Shredder" (TB3) to TB24 the last time I updated...

I am using version 38 and they have had the verify feature for
quite some time
Tools == address book
then just right click on any address you want to check


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Old October 31st 15, 06:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 10/19/2015 06:18 PM, B00ze wrote:
On 2015-10-17 18:33, philo wrote:

I don't have any add-ons but you have a very old version of TB...it must
be two years old or so.


Lol, is it that old already? They changed so many things with the later
releases and introduced so many bugs that I'm waiting for those bugs to
clear-up before updating. I upgrade Firefox a little bit more often, but
with the mail client I'm in no hurry: if it works, don't break it. I
think I went from "Shredder" (TB3) to TB24 the last time I updated...

I am using version 38 and they have had the verify feature for
quite some time
Tools == address book
then just right click on any address you want to check




In doing some trouble-shooting before I made my posts I had removed a
Thunderbird extension called "Thunder plunger".


Today when I was cleaning up my address book I noticed that my email
verifier was not there. Had to re-install "Thunder Plunger"


So /that/ is what is needed to verify an address.


If it says "no such mail box" then I delete the address


OTOH: If it confirms the address is still good, that of course does not
mean the user has not gone elsewhere.


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Old October 31st 15, 09:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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philo wrote:
If it says "no such mail box" then I delete the address


Thunder Plunger has a useful feature to more conveniently delete a known
bad address from all addressbooks, but its validate address function,
like similar operations, is fallible based on unpredictability of
mailserver handling of the validation strategy.

The developers are awa

// Note: Due to the variations in mail server configurations and other
factors beyond our control, this function cannot be considered 100
percent accurate. It is possible that some email addresses that are
actually bad can be reported as good and vis-a-vis. So use care when
interpreting the results and deciding to delete a suspect card. //
https://addons.mozilla.org/En-us/thu...hunderplunger/

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