Why Only On One PC?

Bill the scumbag is now Chief Software Architect, whatever this means but in
reality he is still the top guy at M$ HQ. What he is not is the richest man on
this planet as this title has gone to a 77 years old Swede running IKEA.
Perhaps this says everything you want to know about activation and what it can
do with company's revenues!!!!!!!!!!


Alias wrote:

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Bill is no longer the CEO.

JAX

Really? What is his new position?

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Ken Blake" wrote

Like anyone else selling a product, they get to
set the rules for its use. Our choice is whether to buy it and
accept the rules, or decide we don't like the rules and not buy
it.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User

Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with
them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat
it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After
all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't
have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

Bill the scumbag is now Chief Software Architect, whatever this means but in
reality he is still the top guy at M$ HQ. What he is not is the richest man on
this planet as this title has gone to a 77 years old Swede running IKEA.
Perhaps this says everything you want to know about activation and what it can
do with company's revenues!!!!!!!!!!


Alias wrote:

"JAX" wrote in message
...
Bill is no longer the CEO.

JAX

Really? What is his new position?

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Ken Blake" wrote

Like anyone else selling a product, they get to
set the rules for its use. Our choice is whether to buy it and
accept the rules, or decide we don't like the rules and not buy
it.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User

Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with
them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat
it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After
all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't
have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

I don't know what you are worried about. Most new computers from Dell, HP
etc come with OS preinstalled whether you like it or not. Also, M$ database
of products already activated is wiped clean every 120 days. This can be
proved by reinstalling the product and trying to reactivate it online (not
using the telephone line). Therefore, potentially you could buy a PC every
120 days and use the only OS and/or Office you have on CD. I have done it
on 25 machines (i.e. installed upgrade version of Office XP professional).
All activated fine and now I am running an internet cafe charging people for
my ingenuity!!!!


hermes wrote:

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

Well since it has already been established you are incapable of
following an agreement, in this case the EULA, your reasoning is very
clear.



sarcasmYes, I am completely incapable of following an agreement, and
it shows because all Windows XP machines I have in my house (I have 4 of
them) are OEM installations which came with the machines they are
installed on currently./sarcasm

--
hermes
DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties!
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/index.html
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://anti-dmca.org/
http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/unintended_consequences.php

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams

I don't know what you are worried about. Most new computers from Dell, HP
etc come with OS preinstalled whether you like it or not. Also, M$ database
of products already activated is wiped clean every 120 days. This can be
proved by reinstalling the product and trying to reactivate it online (not
using the telephone line). Therefore, potentially you could buy a PC every
120 days and use the only OS and/or Office you have on CD. I have done it
on 25 machines (i.e. installed upgrade version of Office XP professional).
All activated fine and now I am running an internet cafe charging people for
my ingenuity!!!!


hermes wrote:

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

Well since it has already been established you are incapable of
following an agreement, in this case the EULA, your reasoning is very
clear.



sarcasmYes, I am completely incapable of following an agreement, and
it shows because all Windows XP machines I have in my house (I have 4 of
them) are OEM installations which came with the machines they are
installed on currently./sarcasm

--
hermes
DRM sux! Treacherous Computing kills our virtual civil liberties!
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/index.html
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
http://anti-dmca.org/
http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/unintended_consequences.php

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams

This unknow idot said: "By the way, automobile license plates are a product
maufactured in most states by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to
multiple cars?"

Yes in some countries if you have private number plates you can transfer it on to
another car when you scrap the first one. This also applies to M$ retail versions
of OS and Application packages. But I have said many times that you can use the
120 days loop hole!!!


Unknown wrote:

By the way, automobile license plates are a product maufactured in most states
by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to multiple cars?
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile
license
and use it on several cars?

A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use
one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented
or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use
of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet
after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and
ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.

Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product,
isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless
it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy
of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*
support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias

This unknow idot said: "By the way, automobile license plates are a product
maufactured in most states by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to
multiple cars?"

Yes in some countries if you have private number plates you can transfer it on to
another car when you scrap the first one. This also applies to M$ retail versions
of OS and Application packages. But I have said many times that you can use the
120 days loop hole!!!


Unknown wrote:

By the way, automobile license plates are a product maufactured in most states
by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to multiple cars?
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Unknown" wrote in message
gy.com...
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile
license
and use it on several cars?

A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Jone Doe" wrote

gigantic snip of whining

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use
one
of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented
or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use
of
the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet
after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and
ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.

Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product,
isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless
it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy
of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental*
support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias

Miss Perspicacia Tick,
If you have 25 computer. You could get a volume license. No
activation is required for those machines.

Greg R

Miss Perspicacia Tick,
If you have 25 computer. You could get a volume license. No
activation is required for those machines.

Greg R

On 7/20/2004 7:44 PM, wrote:
Hi. Just wondering why doesn't Microsoft let you install
Windows XP and Office 2003 on two PC's? I think they
should at least let you install them on two PC's. They
let you do it for one desktop on one laptop right?
Thanks, Craig.

WRONG! Windows has been one licence *PER SYSTEM* since Windows 3.1. Office
is one desktop/laptop, unless it's OEM or STE XP.

The manufacturer of a product has a right to control the usage of
their product.
If you do not like the terms, buy from someone else.
Your comparison with bananas is ludicrous.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage
with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

I am a bonafide user. I'm not upset!

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Ken Blake" wrote

Like anyone else selling a product, they get to
set the rules for its use. Our choice is whether to buy it and
accept the rules, or decide we don't like the rules and not buy
it.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User

Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with
them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat
it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After
all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*. Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't
have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote

The manufacturer of a product has a right to control the usage of
their product.

Are you sure it's a product we're buying?

Seems like we are buying the right to use something, not ownership of the
product. Gosh, that's almost as sneaky as stealing windows from Apple.

If you do not like the terms, buy from someone else.

Unfortunately for MS, there are other choices, be they using a pirated
version if you can't afford the priveledge of using the "product" or go with
an open source OS. One can only hope that the alternative OSs can not only
force MS to lower their prices and loosen their restrictions but motivate
them to put out a better product.

Your comparison with bananas is ludicrous.

Bananas are "products", are they not? Can you imagine Chiquita Banana suing
someone for not using their bananas correctly?

Alias


--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage
with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

You are not buying the product, you are buying the licenced to use the
product.

--
Paul Cyr

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Protect Yourself and Others...
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/
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"Alias" wrote in message
...

"Ken Blake" wrote

Like anyone else selling a product, they get to
set the rules for its use. Our choice is whether to buy it and
accept the rules, or decide we don't like the rules and not buy
it.
--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User

Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage with
them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people eat
it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels. After
all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*. Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably don't
have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy" when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

Greetings --

This bonafide user isn't the least bit upset that Microsoft has
finally started to take steps (baby steps, with WPA, granted) to put a
stop to software piracy. I also know better than trying to compare
the license usage of copyrighted intellectual property with a banana.

Bruce Chambers
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"Alias" wrote in message
...


Somehow, I don't think that every product carries rules of usage
with them.
For example, a banana. Chiquita Banana could care less if two people
eat it,
no one eats it or you use it as a dildo and then smoke the peels.
After all
you *did* pay for the product and it is therefore *yours*.
Unfortunately,
the rules of usage for an MS OS doesn't stop piracy and only gets
bonafide
customers upset with Microsoft for the inconvenience and probably
don't have
much sympathy with MS' excuse that they're "losing money to piracy"
when
their CEO is the richest man in the world.

Alias

wrote:

Hi. Just wondering why doesn't Microsoft let you install
Windows XP and Office 2003 on two PC's? I think they
should at least let you install them on two PC's. They
let you do it for one desktop on one laptop right?

Capitalism?






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