USB Gamepad in DOS?

While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
--

T.C.

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"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

--
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'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
...
Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
--

T.C.

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"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
...
Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
--

T.C.

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"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
...
Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
--

T.C.

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"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
...
Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
--

T.C.

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"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
...
Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
--

T.C.

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"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
...
Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
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There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
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O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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"Sapper" wrote in message
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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.

You are correct:

Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still
work with Longhorn?
A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's
currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in
Windows XP.

That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the
DOS environment.
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"David Candy" wrote in message
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Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps
known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as
they would have to close down if they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a
Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer
user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders.
Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need
training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in
Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it.

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"t.cruise" wrote in message
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Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers
for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
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"Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message
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Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to
http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.