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USB Gamepad in DOS?
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Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still work with Longhorn? A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in Windows XP. That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the DOS environment. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "David Candy" wrote in message ... Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if they did. One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn, 1/ Cease operations 2/ Not buy longhorn 3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- 'Not happy John! Defending our democracy', http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html "t.cruise" wrote in message ... Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers for some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message ... Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click." Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has no uses "t.cruise" wrote in message ... DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major application was written for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with Windows XP, only including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost orphaned DOS software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would be a waste of time. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Sapper" wrote in message ... Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers? Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it yet. I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try. "Glen" wrote in message ... There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore no USB device can work in DOS. Glen "Sapper" wrote in message ... O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work in a DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work in any DOS set up. Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 |
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USB Gamepad in DOS?
While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm "Sapper" wrote in message ... Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers? Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it yet. I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try. "Glen" wrote in message ... There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore no USB device can work in DOS. Glen "Sapper" wrote in message ... O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work in a DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work in any DOS set up. Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D. |
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USB Gamepad in DOS?
While limited in scope, there are DOS drivers for DOS, Google
using USB Dos as keywords or a quick visit to http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm "Sapper" wrote in message ... Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers? Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it yet. I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try. "Glen" wrote in message ... There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore no USB device can work in DOS. Glen "Sapper" wrote in message ... O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work in a DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work in any DOS set up. Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D. |
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USB Gamepad in DOS?
You are correct:
Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still work with Longhorn? A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in Windows XP. That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the DOS environment. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "David Candy" wrote in message ... Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if they did. One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn, 1/ Cease operations 2/ Not buy longhorn 3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- 'Not happy John! Defending our democracy', http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html "t.cruise" wrote in message ... Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers for some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message ... Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click." Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has no uses "t.cruise" wrote in message ... DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major application was written for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with Windows XP, only including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost orphaned DOS software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would be a waste of time. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Sapper" wrote in message ... Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers? Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it yet. I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try. "Glen" wrote in message ... There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore no USB device can work in DOS. Glen "Sapper" wrote in message ... O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work in a DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work in any DOS set up. Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 |
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USB Gamepad in DOS?
You are correct:
Q: This sounds like a huge change from today's Windows. Will my current applications still work with Longhorn? A: Yes. Microsoft has even pledged to retain DOS compatibility with Longhorn, though it's currently unclear whether DOS support will be improved over what's available today in Windows XP. That doesn't mean that anyone will be writing drivers for USB hardware to function in the DOS environment. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "David Candy" wrote in message ... Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if they did. One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn, 1/ Cease operations 2/ Not buy longhorn 3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft want people to buy it. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- 'Not happy John! Defending our democracy', http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html "t.cruise" wrote in message ... Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers for some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Rowan Sheridan" wrote in message ... Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click." Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has no uses "t.cruise" wrote in message ... DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major application was written for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with Windows XP, only including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost orphaned DOS software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would be a waste of time. -- T.C. Remove [NoSpam] to reply "Sapper" wrote in message ... Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers? Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done it yet. I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try. "Glen" wrote in message ... There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore no USB device can work in DOS. Glen "Sapper" wrote in message ... O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to work in a DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to work in any DOS set up. Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 7/19/2004 |
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