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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On 1/5/20 11:27 AM, David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 18:16, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:09 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:30, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:18 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 07:27:28 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote: Joel Sat, 04 Jan 2020 19:46:17 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: roach wrote: On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 14:23:52 -0500, Joel wrote: nospam wrote: In article , William Poaster wrote: Linux environment, the basics are still there. ... Android is a Linux operating system because, at it's base, it uses the standard Linux kernel and basic operating system. only the base. the rest of android is not. Reply after reply after reply, you still don't get it - even though it's been explained clearly to you.Â* Linux *IS JUST THE* kernel of "desktop Linux" which is properly called GNU/Linux. Android and Chrome OS are just as much what is correctly called "Linux" as Ubuntu/ etc. are.Â* Linux was never imagined to be a complete implementation of Unix, that's where "GNU" and other components come in.Â* So, you could say that Android isn't Unix, but not that it isn't Linux. What does Linus Torvalds say about Android vs Linux? I didn't ask him.Â* I'm quite sure he would acknowledge that Linux is a kernel, though, since that's what he designed it to be. Que nospam informing us all that Linus would be using the wrong definition to kernel. G Linus talking about Chromebooks. Interesting video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFdoFKDuQA Interesting video. Thanks. And I agree with him that ChromeBooks are a key way for Linux to get to the desktop... and his other comments on Flatpak are interesting, too. Here is there site: https://flatpak.org Not the exact same as what I have been saying but a lot of overlap. Would like to learn more of what they mean by a "consistent application environment". Do you run Linux on your Apple computer? I used to have a Mac which ran Linux full time... it was an older iMac and the hard drive died. Ran Linux on an external drive and used it as my media machine. Worked fairly well, including basic support for the infrared remote (which is a good thing for a media machine). Now have a newer old iMac and run macOS on it. OK - thanks. The external drive was just a USB thumb drive. Considering that it worked amazingly well (though not flawless). Should have hooked up a real hard drive to it... but never did. I do run Linux in a VM from time to time. Just downloaded the newest Mint and am playing a bit. Trying it on VirtualBox (have not updated Parallels where I used to run them). Still trying to get used to VirtualBox before I do much more with the VMs themselves. How much does it cost to run a VM on an iMac? Parallels is a LOT easier to use, at least from what I can see, but VirtualBox is free. https://www.parallels.com https://www.virtualbox.org There are other options, such as VMware, but I have not used that in some time. Might spring for my $50 upgrade price on Parallels... though VirtualBox does have some advantages (no need to install a driver on Linux to get some features that require that with Parallels). Will you point me in the general direction to learn more, please? Right now I am using VirtualBox. Downloaded and installed the other day -- then downloaded a couple versions of Mint. Went through the install process in Virtual Box. Did run into a snag where its default drive size is 10 GB but Mint requires more. Did not see an easy way to increase it (perhaps just quitting the VM and then adjusting would have worked, but did not even try that) and instead started from scratch. That worked fairly well -- though the screen size of the VM was insanely small. You can adjust that in settings but found that to work so-so at best. I have two screens and perhaps that confused things? Anyway, have it running now -- though not as fast as I think it would under Parallels. If you want more details I can, perhaps, make a video showing how I do these things. Want to get back into making YouTube videos anyway. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On 05/01/2020 18:30, Snit wrote:
On 1/5/20 11:19 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:13, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:05 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:49, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 10:36 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:23, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:25 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:03:20 +0000, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 07:43, Diesel wrote: David Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:36:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 03/01/2020 21:46, Diesel wrote: What of the post did you understand? That I'm FAR better off with Apple macOS :-D How so? "The integration between applications on the desktop, with each other and the OS services, and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus." I couldn't phrase things any better than Snit! Thanks, Snit! :-D Snit's actually on point about this. Example for me, I use Windows, however I do have an iPhone and last year purchased an Apple Watch 4 which BTW is an amazing device. So, getting it working involved charging the watch and placing it near the iPhone. It picked up and configured networking, applications, configuration options as they were set on my iPhone and so forth. I was impressed. Now would I pay 3x the going rate for a Mac as compared to a PC for that type of integration? Or even more since I build my own systems. Probably not, but the Apple watch is not much more expensive than the other alternatives and it's the only one, currently, with an approved ECG measuring capability, at least in USA. However there is no denying that Apple has the integration between devices down to a science, as long as the user is willing to fork over the cash for that option and many do. Agree with all you wrote but will add the integration between devices is not the only part of what I speak of. Even if you have no iPhone or iPod or iPad or Apple Watch, even if you merely have a Mac, the integration is a benefit. I am NOT a programmer, and my scripting skills are pretty crappy, and yet I can fairly easily make a system service that allows me to easily look for a message by Message ID, or look up text in Google Translate, or add a package to my package tracker from a tracking ID. And, yes, the ever-popular PDF annotation which allows me to get a map or lesson plan or (gasp) recipe and add quick annotations and send it to someone and / or save it myself. Not that these things cannot be done on Windows or Linux (they can) but the integration built into macOS and most of the programs that run on it make it easier. It is what allowed me -- a non-programmer and crappy scripter -- to be able to do what Marek wanted with VPNs (quit programs based on IP), and allowed me to be able to do what Owl spoke of in terms of setting Terminal background (and text) colors based on desktop images, and doing his "challenge" of downloading all recipes from allrecipes.com. I was able to get features of multiple programs and, essentially, pipe them together to build my own workflows (very simple applications even). I'm uncertain why you couldn't find this, Snit:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=157824546000 Hmmm, odd. Looking directly on Howard Knight it comes up, with this URL: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=ms...0 fx45.iad%3E http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E My script pointed me to: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E They're NEARLY the same - I've put them one above the other up there ^^^ Right... but not close enough to work. That didn't show up as I had hoped. https://imgur.com/BScY877 Sorry about that! No problem. Already had done that comparison. Will fiddle with the script later to see if I can improve it. The key issue is the Message ID itself, which should be the top one listed here but comes out as the second: %3CpphQF.237564%24%25d1.80913%40fx45.iad%3E %3E Will make it so I have to select one of the following: Message-ID: But not any other text that has the ID. If I get real fancy might even look for a colon and remove all text before that. Good luck! :-) I've just looked at our posts using the new Usenapp newsreader and my two links looked exactly as I had hoped they would have done! If you are uncertain what I'm 'on about', here's how Thunderbird shows them on MY iMac:- https://imgur.com/Dybw3N4 One long line! If you aren't familiar, you may explore he https://www.usenapp.com/releasenotes/ -- David |
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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On 1/5/20 11:46 AM, David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 18:30, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:19 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:13, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:05 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:49, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 10:36 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:23, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:25 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:03:20 +0000, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 07:43, Diesel wrote: David Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:36:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 03/01/2020 21:46, Diesel wrote: What of the post did you understand? That I'm FAR better off with Apple macOS :-D How so? "The integration between applications on the desktop, with each other and the OS services, and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus." I couldn't phrase things any better than Snit! Thanks, Snit! :-D Snit's actually on point about this. Example for me, I use Windows, however I do have an iPhone and last year purchased an Apple Watch 4 which BTW is an amazing device. So, getting it working involved charging the watch and placing it near the iPhone. It picked up and configured networking, applications, configuration options as they were set on my iPhone and so forth. I was impressed. Now would I pay 3x the going rate for a Mac as compared to a PC for that type of integration? Or even more since I build my own systems. Probably not, but the Apple watch is not much more expensive than the other alternatives and it's the only one, currently, with an approved ECG measuring capability, at least in USA. However there is no denying that Apple has the integration between devices down to a science, as long as the user is willing to fork over the cash for that option and many do. Agree with all you wrote but will add the integration between devices is not the only part of what I speak of. Even if you have no iPhone or iPod or iPad or Apple Watch, even if you merely have a Mac, the integration is a benefit. I am NOT a programmer, and my scripting skills are pretty crappy, and yet I can fairly easily make a system service that allows me to easily look for a message by Message ID, or look up text in Google Translate, or add a package to my package tracker from a tracking ID. And, yes, the ever-popular PDF annotation which allows me to get a map or lesson plan or (gasp) recipe and add quick annotations and send it to someone and / or save it myself. Not that these things cannot be done on Windows or Linux (they can) but the integration built into macOS and most of the programs that run on it make it easier. It is what allowed me -- a non-programmer and crappy scripter -- to be able to do what Marek wanted with VPNs (quit programs based on IP), and allowed me to be able to do what Owl spoke of in terms of setting Terminal background (and text) colors based on desktop images, and doing his "challenge" of downloading all recipes from allrecipes.com. I was able to get features of multiple programs and, essentially, pipe them together to build my own workflows (very simple applications even). I'm uncertain why you couldn't find this, Snit:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=157824546000 Hmmm, odd. Looking directly on Howard Knight it comes up, with this URL: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=ms...0 fx45.iad%3E http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E My script pointed me to: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E They're NEARLY the same - I've put them one above the other up there ^^^ Right... but not close enough to work. That didn't show up as I had hoped. https://imgur.com/BScY877 Sorry about that! No problem. Already had done that comparison. Will fiddle with the script later to see if I can improve it. The key issue is the Message ID itself, which should be the top one listed here but comes out as the second: %3CpphQF.237564%24%25d1.80913%40fx45.iad%3E %3E Will make it so I have to select one of the following: Message-ID: But not any other text that has the ID. If I get real fancy might even look for a colon and remove all text before that. Good luck! :-) I've just looked at our posts using the new Usenapp newsreader and my two links looked exactly as I had hoped they would have done! If you are uncertain what I'm 'on about', here's how Thunderbird shows them on MY iMac:-Â* https://imgur.com/Dybw3N4Â*Â* One long line! If you aren't familiar, you may explore he https://www.usenapp.com/releasenotes/ Looked at the Usenapp site the other day and sent a request to be a beta tester. So far no response, but it is the weekend. I use Thunderbird because it is free -- but it SUCKS! No need to convince me of that. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On Sun, 05 Jan 2020 10:18:49 -0500, flatfish+++
wrote: Linus talking about Chromebooks. Interesting video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFdoFKDuQA Thanks! M. |
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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On 5 Jan 2020 at 19:51:52 CET, "Snit" wrote:
Looked at the Usenapp site the other day and sent a request to be a beta tester. So far no response, but it is the weekend. Please check your spam folder. The email was sent the same day. -- Thanks, Andre |
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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On 1/5/20 11:46 AM, David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 18:30, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:19 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:13, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:05 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:49, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 10:36 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:23, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:25 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:03:20 +0000, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 07:43, Diesel wrote: David Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:36:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 03/01/2020 21:46, Diesel wrote: What of the post did you understand? That I'm FAR better off with Apple macOS :-D How so? "The integration between applications on the desktop, with each other and the OS services, and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus." I couldn't phrase things any better than Snit! Thanks, Snit! :-D Snit's actually on point about this. Example for me, I use Windows, however I do have an iPhone and last year purchased an Apple Watch 4 which BTW is an amazing device. So, getting it working involved charging the watch and placing it near the iPhone. It picked up and configured networking, applications, configuration options as they were set on my iPhone and so forth. I was impressed. Now would I pay 3x the going rate for a Mac as compared to a PC for that type of integration? Or even more since I build my own systems. Probably not, but the Apple watch is not much more expensive than the other alternatives and it's the only one, currently, with an approved ECG measuring capability, at least in USA. However there is no denying that Apple has the integration between devices down to a science, as long as the user is willing to fork over the cash for that option and many do. Agree with all you wrote but will add the integration between devices is not the only part of what I speak of. Even if you have no iPhone or iPod or iPad or Apple Watch, even if you merely have a Mac, the integration is a benefit. I am NOT a programmer, and my scripting skills are pretty crappy, and yet I can fairly easily make a system service that allows me to easily look for a message by Message ID, or look up text in Google Translate, or add a package to my package tracker from a tracking ID. And, yes, the ever-popular PDF annotation which allows me to get a map or lesson plan or (gasp) recipe and add quick annotations and send it to someone and / or save it myself. Not that these things cannot be done on Windows or Linux (they can) but the integration built into macOS and most of the programs that run on it make it easier. It is what allowed me -- a non-programmer and crappy scripter -- to be able to do what Marek wanted with VPNs (quit programs based on IP), and allowed me to be able to do what Owl spoke of in terms of setting Terminal background (and text) colors based on desktop images, and doing his "challenge" of downloading all recipes from allrecipes.com. I was able to get features of multiple programs and, essentially, pipe them together to build my own workflows (very simple applications even). I'm uncertain why you couldn't find this, Snit:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=157824546000 Hmmm, odd. Looking directly on Howard Knight it comes up, with this URL: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=ms...0 fx45.iad%3E http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E My script pointed me to: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E They're NEARLY the same - I've put them one above the other up there ^^^ Right... but not close enough to work. That didn't show up as I had hoped. https://imgur.com/BScY877 Sorry about that! No problem. Already had done that comparison. Will fiddle with the script later to see if I can improve it. The key issue is the Message ID itself, which should be the top one listed here but comes out as the second: %3CpphQF.237564%24%25d1.80913%40fx45.iad%3E %3E Will make it so I have to select one of the following: Message-ID: But not any other text that has the ID. If I get real fancy might even look for a colon and remove all text before that. Good luck! :-) Now working. The issue was the percent sign. Have a text action with this AppleScrpt: ------- on run {theWord} tell application "Mail" set theAddress to extract address from theWord end tell set theAddress to "" & theAddress & "" set thePercent to offset of "%" in theAddress if thePercent â‰* 0 then set theStart to items 1 through thePercent of theAddress as string set theEnd to items (thePercent + 1) through -1 of theAddress as string set theAddress to theStart & "25" & theEnd end if set theURL to "http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=" & theAddress tell application "Safari" activate open location theURL end tell end run ------- To be safe should loop the looking for a % until there are none. A project for another day. I've just looked at our posts using the new Usenapp newsreader and my two links looked exactly as I had hoped they would have done! If you are uncertain what I'm 'on about', here's how Thunderbird shows them on MY iMac:-Â* https://imgur.com/Dybw3N4Â*Â* One long line! If you aren't familiar, you may explore he https://www.usenapp.com/releasenotes/ -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On 1/5/20 12:34 PM, Andre wrote:
On 5 Jan 2020 at 19:51:52 CET, "Snit" wrote: Looked at the Usenapp site the other day and sent a request to be a beta tester. So far no response, but it is the weekend. Please check your spam folder. The email was sent the same day. Got it. Thanks. Was not even in spam... I just missed it somehow. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:27:28 +0000, David
wrote: How much does it cost to run a VM on an iMac? Will you point me in the general direction to learn more, please? I would stick with VMWare, because you could use your VM on all platforms (Mac, Linux, Windows). And it´s polished and easy to use: https://www.vmware.com/de/products/fusion.html VMware Fusion (...) On Windows it`s called "VMWare (Workstation) Player". But in recent years VMWare has stripped down functionality. In the past the free VMWare Player could run several VMs at the same time. I`m using VMWare Player 12.5.9 for that. Newest version can only run one VM per time, otherwise one has to buy the Pro-Version. |
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Why Linux Sucks - 2020 Version
On 05/01/2020 18:51, Snit wrote:
On 1/5/20 11:46 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:30, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:19 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:13, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:05 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:49, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 10:36 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:23, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:25 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:03:20 +0000, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 07:43, Diesel wrote: David Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:36:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 03/01/2020 21:46, Diesel wrote: What of the post did you understand? That I'm FAR better off with Apple macOS :-D How so? "The integration between applications on the desktop, with each other and the OS services, and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus." I couldn't phrase things any better than Snit! Thanks, Snit! :-D Snit's actually on point about this. Example for me, I use Windows, however I do have an iPhone and last year purchased an Apple Watch 4 which BTW is an amazing device. So, getting it working involved charging the watch and placing it near the iPhone. It picked up and configured networking, applications, configuration options as they were set on my iPhone and so forth. I was impressed. Now would I pay 3x the going rate for a Mac as compared to a PC for that type of integration? Or even more since I build my own systems. Probably not, but the Apple watch is not much more expensive than the other alternatives and it's the only one, currently, with an approved ECG measuring capability, at least in USA. However there is no denying that Apple has the integration between devices down to a science, as long as the user is willing to fork over the cash for that option and many do. Agree with all you wrote but will add the integration between devices is not the only part of what I speak of. Even if you have no iPhone or iPod or iPad or Apple Watch, even if you merely have a Mac, the integration is a benefit. I am NOT a programmer, and my scripting skills are pretty crappy, and yet I can fairly easily make a system service that allows me to easily look for a message by Message ID, or look up text in Google Translate, or add a package to my package tracker from a tracking ID. And, yes, the ever-popular PDF annotation which allows me to get a map or lesson plan or (gasp) recipe and add quick annotations and send it to someone and / or save it myself. Not that these things cannot be done on Windows or Linux (they can) but the integration built into macOS and most of the programs that run on it make it easier. It is what allowed me -- a non-programmer and crappy scripter -- to be able to do what Marek wanted with VPNs (quit programs based on IP), and allowed me to be able to do what Owl spoke of in terms of setting Terminal background (and text) colors based on desktop images, and doing his "challenge" of downloading all recipes from allrecipes.com. I was able to get features of multiple programs and, essentially, pipe them together to build my own workflows (very simple applications even). I'm uncertain why you couldn't find this, Snit:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=157824546000 Hmmm, odd. Looking directly on Howard Knight it comes up, with this URL: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=ms...0 fx45.iad%3E http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E My script pointed me to: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E They're NEARLY the same - I've put them one above the other up there ^^^ Right... but not close enough to work. That didn't show up as I had hoped. https://imgur.com/BScY877 Sorry about that! No problem. Already had done that comparison. Will fiddle with the script later to see if I can improve it. The key issue is the Message ID itself, which should be the top one listed here but comes out as the second: %3CpphQF.237564%24%25d1.80913%40fx45.iad%3E %3E Will make it so I have to select one of the following: Message-ID: But not any other text that has the ID. If I get real fancy might even look for a colon and remove all text before that. Good luck! :-) I've just looked at our posts using the new Usenapp newsreader and my two links looked exactly as I had hoped they would have done! If you are uncertain what I'm 'on about', here's how Thunderbird shows them on MY iMac:-Â* https://imgur.com/Dybw3N4Â*Â* One long line! If you aren't familiar, you may explore he https://www.usenapp.com/releasenotes/ Looked at the Usenapp site the other day and sent a request to be a beta tester. So far no response, but it is the weekend. A recent post from the developer:- From: Andre Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac Subject: Usenapp Beta Available Message-ID: User-Agent: Usenapp/0.64.1 alpha for MacOS X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:09:28 UTC Organization: Eweka Internet Services Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:09:28 GMT On 31 Dec 2019 at 08:47:00 CET, "RJH" wrote: Spelling checker that highlights misspelled word; Spell + grammar checker is now available and can be turned on/off in the preferences. Please use the Usenapp beta forum for your other requests so it's centralised for everyone to see and discuss. -- Thanks, Andre I use Thunderbird because it is free -- but it SUCKS! No need to convince me of that. There's not been a lot of choice for Mac users. :-( -- David |
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On 1/5/20 1:11 PM, David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 18:51, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:46 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:30, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:19 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:13, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:05 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:49, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 10:36 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:23, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:25 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:03:20 +0000, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 07:43, Diesel wrote: David Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:36:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: On 03/01/2020 21:46, Diesel wrote: What of the post did you understand? That I'm FAR better off with Apple macOS :-D How so? "The integration between applications on the desktop, with each other and the OS services, and the integration with my iOS devices, is a huge plus." I couldn't phrase things any better than Snit! Thanks, Snit! :-D Snit's actually on point about this. Example for me, I use Windows, however I do have an iPhone and last year purchased an Apple Watch 4 which BTW is an amazing device. So, getting it working involved charging the watch and placing it near the iPhone. It picked up and configured networking, applications, configuration options as they were set on my iPhone and so forth. I was impressed. Now would I pay 3x the going rate for a Mac as compared to a PC for that type of integration? Or even more since I build my own systems. Probably not, but the Apple watch is not much more expensive than the other alternatives and it's the only one, currently, with an approved ECG measuring capability, at least in USA. However there is no denying that Apple has the integration between devices down to a science, as long as the user is willing to fork over the cash for that option and many do. Agree with all you wrote but will add the integration between devices is not the only part of what I speak of. Even if you have no iPhone or iPod or iPad or Apple Watch, even if you merely have a Mac, the integration is a benefit. I am NOT a programmer, and my scripting skills are pretty crappy, and yet I can fairly easily make a system service that allows me to easily look for a message by Message ID, or look up text in Google Translate, or add a package to my package tracker from a tracking ID. And, yes, the ever-popular PDF annotation which allows me to get a map or lesson plan or (gasp) recipe and add quick annotations and send it to someone and / or save it myself. Not that these things cannot be done on Windows or Linux (they can) but the integration built into macOS and most of the programs that run on it make it easier. It is what allowed me -- a non-programmer and crappy scripter -- to be able to do what Marek wanted with VPNs (quit programs based on IP), and allowed me to be able to do what Owl spoke of in terms of setting Terminal background (and text) colors based on desktop images, and doing his "challenge" of downloading all recipes from allrecipes.com. I was able to get features of multiple programs and, essentially, pipe them together to build my own workflows (very simple applications even). I'm uncertain why you couldn't find this, Snit:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=157824546000 Hmmm, odd. Looking directly on Howard Knight it comes up, with this URL: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=ms...0 fx45.iad%3E http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E My script pointed me to: http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CpphQF.237564$%D1.80913@fx 45.iad%3E They're NEARLY the same - I've put them one above the other up there ^^^ Right... but not close enough to work. That didn't show up as I had hoped. https://imgur.com/BScY877 Sorry about that! No problem. Already had done that comparison. Will fiddle with the script later to see if I can improve it. The key issue is the Message ID itself, which should be the top one listed here but comes out as the second: %3CpphQF.237564%24%25d1.80913%40fx45.iad%3E %3E Will make it so I have to select one of the following: Message-ID: But not any other text that has the ID. If I get real fancy might even look for a colon and remove all text before that. Good luck! :-) I've just looked at our posts using the new Usenapp newsreader and my two links looked exactly as I had hoped they would have done! If you are uncertain what I'm 'on about', here's how Thunderbird shows them on MY iMac:-Â* https://imgur.com/Dybw3N4Â*Â* One long line! If you aren't familiar, you may explore he https://www.usenapp.com/releasenotes/ Looked at the Usenapp site the other day and sent a request to be a beta tester. So far no response, but it is the weekend. A recent post from the developer:- From: Andre Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac Subject: Usenapp Beta Available Message-ID: User-Agent: Usenapp/0.64.1 alpha for MacOS X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:09:28 UTC Organization: Eweka Internet Services Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:09:28 GMT On 31 Dec 2019 at 08:47:00 CET, "RJH" wrote: Spelling checker that highlights misspelled word; Spell + grammar checker is now available and can be turned on/off in the preferences. Please use the Usenapp beta forum for your other requests so it's centralised for everyone to see and discuss. Downloaded and playing with now. Seems good -- though clearly in beta form. Have suggestions I will post later (to the beta forum). -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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Downloaded and playing with now. Seems good -- though clearly in beta form. Have suggestions I will post later (to the beta forum). It's in alpha, not beta. -- Thanks, Andre |
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On 05/01/2020 19:55, Michael Logies wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:27:28 +0000, David wrote: How much does it cost to run a VM on an iMac? Will you point me in the general direction to learn more, please? I would stick with VMWare, because you could use your VM on all platforms (Mac, Linux, Windows). And it´s polished and easy to use: https://www.vmware.com/de/products/fusion.html VMware Fusion (...) On Windows it`s called "VMWare (Workstation) Player". But in recent years VMWare has stripped down functionality. In the past the free VMWare Player could run several VMs at the same time. I`m using VMWare Player 12.5.9 for that. Newest version can only run one VM per time, otherwise one has to buy the Pro-Version. Thanks, Michael :-) I'll explore here tomorrow:- https://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html I never did learn German! -- David |
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On 05/01/2020 18:37, Snit wrote:
On 1/5/20 11:27 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 18:16, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 11:09 AM, David wrote: On 05/01/2020 17:30, Snit wrote: On 1/5/20 8:18 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 07:27:28 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote: Joel Sat, 04 Jan 2020 19:46:17 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: roach wrote: On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 14:23:52 -0500, Joel wrote: nospam wrote: In article , William Poaster wrote: Linux environment, the basics are still there. ... Android is a Linux operating system because, at it's base, it uses the standard Linux kernel and basic operating system. only the base. the rest of android is not. Reply after reply after reply, you still don't get it - even though it's been explained clearly to you.Â* Linux *IS JUST THE* kernel of "desktop Linux" which is properly called GNU/Linux. Android and Chrome OS are just as much what is correctly called "Linux" as Ubuntu/ etc. are.Â* Linux was never imagined to be a complete implementation of Unix, that's where "GNU" and other components come in.Â* So, you could say that Android isn't Unix, but not that it isn't Linux. What does Linus Torvalds say about Android vs Linux? I didn't ask him.Â* I'm quite sure he would acknowledge that Linux is a kernel, though, since that's what he designed it to be. Que nospam informing us all that Linus would be using the wrong definition to kernel. G Linus talking about Chromebooks. Interesting video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFdoFKDuQA Interesting video. Thanks. And I agree with him that ChromeBooks are a key way for Linux to get to the desktop... and his other comments on Flatpak are interesting, too. Here is there site: https://flatpak.org Not the exact same as what I have been saying but a lot of overlap. Would like to learn more of what they mean by a "consistent application environment". Do you run Linux on your Apple computer? I used to have a Mac which ran Linux full time... it was an older iMac and the hard drive died. Ran Linux on an external drive and used it as my media machine. Worked fairly well, including basic support for the infrared remote (which is a good thing for a media machine). Now have a newer old iMac and run macOS on it. OK - thanks. The external drive was just a USB thumb drive. Considering that it worked amazingly well (though not flawless). Should have hooked up a real hard drive to it... but never did. I do run Linux in a VM from time to time. Just downloaded the newest Mint and am playing a bit. Trying it on VirtualBox (have not updated Parallels where I used to run them). Still trying to get used to VirtualBox before I do much more with the VMs themselves. How much does it cost to run a VM on an iMac? Parallels is a LOT easier to use, at least from what I can see, but VirtualBox is free. https://www.parallels.com https://www.virtualbox.org There are other options, such as VMware, but I have not used that in some time. Might spring for my $50 upgrade price on Parallels... though VirtualBox does have some advantages (no need to install a driver on Linux to get some features that require that with Parallels). Will you point me in the general direction to learn more, please? Right now I am using VirtualBox. Downloaded and installed the other day -- then downloaded a couple versions of Mint. Went through the install process in Virtual Box. Did run into a snag where its default drive size is 10 GB but Mint requires more. Did not see an easy way to increase it (perhaps just quitting the VM and then adjusting would have worked, but did not even try that) and instead started from scratch. That worked fairly well -- though the screen size of the VM was insanely small. You can adjust that in settings but found that to work so-so at best. I have two screens and perhaps that confused things? Anyway, have it running now -- though not as fast as I think it would under Parallels. If you want more details I can, perhaps, make a video showing how I do these things. Want to get back into making YouTube videos anyway. I appreciate the information. Thank you, Snit. If you want to practice making a video, I promise that I will watch it! -- David |
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wrote: You may subscribe to 'alt.computer.workshop' should you so wish. As moderator of the group, I've not actually banned anyone yet! ;-) you're not a moderator of anything, nor is alt.computer.workshop a moderated group. |
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On 05/01/2020 20:21, Andre wrote:
On 5 Jan 2020 at 21:17:10 CET, "Snit" wrote: Downloaded and playing with now. Seems good -- though clearly in beta form. Have suggestions I will post later (to the beta forum). It's in alpha, not beta. Ha! :-D Regardless, you are doing a FANTASTIC job, Andre! Thanks. Have you any notion of what the final product cost will be? Will it be made available via the Apple App Store? -- David |
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