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  #76  
Old January 4th 20, 01:42 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)



The fruit is not Macintosh... it is McIntosh. Apple spelled it that way
because another company was already spelling it correctly.


that company was https://www.mcintoshlabs.com, who is known for audio
equipment that uses vacuum tubes/valves.

apple later licensed the trademark and eventually bought it outright.


Ah yes, and their Tube type Amps are still some of the best .


no, they very definitely aren't.

there are much better amps, and ones that last a lot longer too.

the so called 'warmth' from tube/valve amps is distortion.

those who want that type of distortion can add it back if they prefer,
but it's incorrect to claim the presence of distortion is better.
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  #77  
Old January 4th 20, 02:01 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-01-03 7:42 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)



The fruit is not Macintosh... it is McIntosh. Apple spelled it that way
because another company was already spelling it correctly.

that company was https://www.mcintoshlabs.com, who is known for audio
equipment that uses vacuum tubes/valves.

apple later licensed the trademark and eventually bought it outright.


Ah yes, and their Tube type Amps are still some of the best .


no, they very definitely aren't.

there are much better amps, and ones that last a lot longer too.

the so called 'warmth' from tube/valve amps is distortion.

those who want that type of distortion can add it back if they prefer,
but it's incorrect to claim the presence of distortion is better.


I meant some of the best Tube amps, Not solid state which in my opinion
are much better with way less distortion.

I have built Preamps and power amps of both types and prefer the solid
state ones hands down.

Rene


  #78  
Old January 4th 20, 02:08 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/3/20 6:04 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

I had an Apple Macintosh once, I gave it away. :-(
I had a Macintosh apple many times, I ate them, Really good. :-)

Rene



The fruit is not Macintosh... it is McIntosh. Apple spelled it that way
because another company was already spelling it correctly.


that company was https://www.mcintoshlabs.com, who is known for audio
equipment that uses vacuum tubes/valves.

apple later licensed the trademark and eventually bought it outright.


Yup. But still works out well to have "Macs".

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  #79  
Old January 4th 20, 02:19 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Ah yes, and their Tube type Amps are still some of the best .


no, they very definitely aren't.

there are much better amps, and ones that last a lot longer too.

the so called 'warmth' from tube/valve amps is distortion.

those who want that type of distortion can add it back if they prefer,
but it's incorrect to claim the presence of distortion is better.


I meant some of the best Tube amps, Not solid state which in my opinion
are much better with way less distortion.


i think they're the only ones who still make general purpose tube amps,
versus specialized stuff like guitar amps.

surprisingly, there's still enough customers who don't understand audio
to keep them in business.

I have built Preamps and power amps of both types and prefer the solid
state ones hands down.


i also did long ago. i never much cared for designing analog circuits.
  #80  
Old January 4th 20, 02:32 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-01-03 8:19 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Ah yes, and their Tube type Amps are still some of the best .

no, they very definitely aren't.

there are much better amps, and ones that last a lot longer too.

the so called 'warmth' from tube/valve amps is distortion.

those who want that type of distortion can add it back if they prefer,
but it's incorrect to claim the presence of distortion is better.


I meant some of the best Tube amps, Not solid state which in my opinion
are much better with way less distortion.


i think they're the only ones who still make general purpose tube amps,
versus specialized stuff like guitar amps.

surprisingly, there's still enough customers who don't understand audio
to keep them in business.

I have built Preamps and power amps of both types and prefer the solid
state ones hands down.


i also did long ago. i never much cared for designing analog circuits.


I have a hard time with descriptive words such as warmth, sweetness,
depth and many others applied to audio gear..
But you gotta admit that 2 or 4 of those old 6L6s did give them a fair
amount of "burn your fingers Warmth". :-)

Rene

  #81  
Old January 4th 20, 02:35 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
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I have a hard time with descriptive words such as warmth, sweetness,
depth and many others applied to audio gear..


they're meaningless.

But you gotta admit that 2 or 4 of those old 6L6s did give them a fair
amount of "burn your fingers Warmth". :-)


there is that.
  #82  
Old January 4th 20, 03:43 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 21:19:18 -0500, nospam wrote:

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Ah yes, and their Tube type Amps are still some of the best .

no, they very definitely aren't.

there are much better amps, and ones that last a lot longer too.

the so called 'warmth' from tube/valve amps is distortion.

those who want that type of distortion can add it back if they
prefer,
but it's incorrect to claim the presence of distortion is better.


I meant some of the best Tube amps, Not solid state which in my opinion
are much better with way less distortion.


i think they're the only ones who still make general purpose tube amps,
versus specialized stuff like guitar amps.

surprisingly, there's still enough customers who don't understand audio
to keep them in business.

I have built Preamps and power amps of both types and prefer the solid
state ones hands down.


i also did long ago. i never much cared for designing analog circuits.


A good portion of solid state circuits are analog.

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  #83  
Old January 4th 20, 03:54 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , vallor
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I have built Preamps and power amps of both types and prefer the solid
state ones hands down.


i also did long ago. i never much cared for designing analog circuits.


A good portion of solid state circuits are analog.


a much larger portion of them are digital.
  #84  
Old January 4th 20, 05:53 AM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-01-03, Tig Welder wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 00:44:45 +0000, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 03/01/2020 00:01, Jasen Betts wrote:
probably some sort of windows font bug.


Probably it is what psychologists call " Self-fulfilling prophecy " on
your part so I suggest take this crap to your Linux Junk newsgroup as
Windows has what you call some sort of font bug.

Surely, you don't want to hang out with Windows users who have some sort
of bug as you have managed to diagnose them from your basement apartment
window.


The funny part is he is using slrn which is a throwback to the 1970's
and a DEC VT100 terminal.
Every option, including colors, are controlled by a text configuration
file .slrnrc.
So if you want to change the color of the text for example you need to
edit the file and add something like CYAN to it, then save, restart
slrn, rinse and repeat 100 times until you find a combination you
like.


You should know about obsolete technology, I mean you should, but you
don't. after all you're using it.

Agent is stuck in the 90s with no unicode support, and a developer who
seems to have quit 6 years ago after 14+ years of failing to implement
any sort of unicode support. whereas SLRN is still being maintained,

Anyway back to your other mistakes above.

DEC VT100 terminal doesn't do CYAN, that would be a VT200. but I'm not
using that either.

Also slrn needs a helper application like slrnpull or leafnode to read
offline. Otherwise it downloads one article at a time as you read
them. Very slow, especially considering it's a cli application.


yeah, on-line reading is slow, so I don't do that... reading from a
local spool is plenty fast.

Linux worshipers wear slrn like some badge of intelligence because
they were able to configure and use it.


I use it becase it's fast and does what I want.

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  #85  
Old January 4th 20, 06:03 AM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-01-03, Tig Welder wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 00:01:20 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
wrote:

On 2020-01-02, Tig Welder wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comm...y_linux_sucks/

Why Linux Sucks
It is ugly out of the box

Linux has been largely used in the server scenario, yet there are many
deluded morons out there who think it can compete against both Windows
and Mac OS when it com,es to desktop usage. If you have ever used
Linux, you know what I?m talking about:


how about you try to find a working news reader, the one you've got is
embeddign control characters, probably some sort of windows font bug.

^^^^^^^^
How about you find a news reader with a working spell checker.
What's the matter, doesn't the nano editor automatically correct
spelling errors?


I only spell check important posts, you're not important.




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  #86  
Old January 4th 20, 09:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 18:19:51 -0500, nospam
wrote:

I guess NASA, CERN


most people at those companies and schools use mac, windows, ios and
android, not linux, although they might use linux indirectly, such as
on a server.


CERN has started migrating its apps from Microsoft to open source:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/cern-l...urce-software/
CERN leaves Microsoft programs behind for open-source software
A price tag hike has CERN, one of the world's leading scientific
research organizations, moving from Microsoft programs for more
affordable open-source software.
By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Linux and Open Source | June 12, 2019
-- 20:30 GMT (21:30 BST) | Topic: Enterprise Software
(...)

My opinion: CERN should have done this many years ago...at least this
is what I did in my dental office 23 years ago:
Staroffice/Openoffice/Libreoffice instead of Microsoft Office.

About 3 years ago I switched from Outlook 2002 (with Public Share
Folder, http://www.publicshareware.de/) to EssentialPIM Pro Business
for my office (besides Thunderbird for myself and more private things)
as a groupware, for task and quality management.

I like Windows as the most stable platform for programmers. APIs are
supported for decades, which means, that usually old software will
run. But as a company Microsoft often was too greedy, e. g. stopping
their old program versions from running on newer versions of Windows.
With third party software this happens less often.

And the uncontrollable data collection of Windows has become a legal
nightmare in germany. That alone would be reason enough to switch to
Linux. Alas, it would be too expensive (for me), and many important
programs are still not available for Linux (and never will, they will
arrive as web apps only). But Windows is certainly loosing reputation
and market share for this reason.

Now Microsoft gives away Windows 10 Professional almost for free
(about 15 USD in germany, if you search a bit). The reason is easy to
see: Microsoft sees its future in paid web apps and needs to keep up
Windows market share as a path to these cloud apps. Microsoft has
alreay lost the school market in the US to Google/Chrome OS. Which
means that the next generation does not know much about Windows nor
does it need to know much. Chrome OS seems to be the best platform
for web apps at the moment. If you have an old, slow PC, test
Cloudready, a Chrome OS for PC (free for personal use,
https://www.neverware.com/). The old hardware will be faster than with
Windows or Linux.

Regards

M.
  #87  
Old January 4th 20, 09:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 03 Jan 2020 18:19:49 -0500, nospam
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linux on the desktop is 1% share.


In US schools it is more than 60% for Chrome OS. And Chrome OS is
running with a linux kernel. Schools are showing the future (and
already a much of my present)... which is web apps.

Regards

M.
  #88  
Old January 4th 20, 10:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 23:17:45 +0000
David wrote:

I've looked here briefly https://mxlinux.org/mx19-features/

Perhaps I'll have a play one day when it's raining! ;-)


Test Cloudready instead. ;-)

You already know how Linux is in principle. MX 19 is more polished (and
rock solid on my hardware and in the VM), but the basic problems of all
linux distributions remain: inconsistent GUI and keyboard shortcuts for
different programs, old software versions in the repos, abandoned or
only slowly developing software for end users, too often with annoying
bugs or too much configuration (in the terminal) needed.

Cloudready is basically Chrome OS. And if web apps are enough for you,
it is a completely different experience of computing. No more annoying
updates, fastest booting, secure out of the box. And most better web
apps sync easily with their apps on Android or iOS. For me most
impressive in the last year: Quire, https://quire.io/.

So I think Cloudready/Chrome OS is the much better upgrade path for a
Mac user than Linux:

Ditch Your Mac for a Chromebook, Save Money and Watch as Life Goes On:
My Experience as a (Somewhat) Power User

https://qz.com/1314197/you-dont-need-a-mac-laptop/
CLOUDTOPS
You don’t need a Mac laptop

Regards

M.

P. S.: I start liking Claws Mail on MX19 for Usenet (installed and
configured within minutes)..., and it's available for Windows:
https://www.claws-mail.org/win32/, and for Mac, but this would be too
much for me:
https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index...on_Mac_OS_X.3F

On Cloudready Usenet would start with a web interface. It seems that
Google does not list alt.comp.os.windows-10, but here it is:
https://www.novabbs.com/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=324&
Or this Add-in for Chrome, but needs another server in your LAN,
NZBGet:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...hpkdkaomlloghm
Newer hardware for Chrome OS supports the Google Play Store,
which means Android apps. On Android I
am using PhoNews:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ndroid.phonews

  #89  
Old January 4th 20, 12:04 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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In article , Carlos E.R.
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android is not a full linux distro. it's the linux kernel, with android
built on top of it. all apps are written to android apis, not linux.


It is just Linux with a different desktop :-P


nope. android is its own os, sitting on top of a stripped down linux
kernel.

android apps are written to android apis, not linux apis.

linux on the desktop currently has a very low single digit percentage
market share. that is not 'taking over the world'.


We don't need the desktop if we have all the rest :-P


billions of people disagree with that.
  #90  
Old January 4th 20, 12:09 PM posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On 2020-01-04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 02/01/2020 18.34, nospam wrote:
In article , John Wesley Harding
wrote:

And, with mobile phones, Linux has taken over the world.


no it hasn't.

android is not a full linux distro. it's the linux kernel, with android
built on top of it. all apps are written to android apis, not linux.


It is just Linux with a different desktop :-P


Android is not GNU. Then again it is Linux.


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