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How do I get W8 RTM?
Nil wrote:
On 15 Oct 2012, G. Morgan wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: Also the "App Store" is a royal PITA to search manually. You have to hit the 'Windows key' + 'w' to get a search box. I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one. You don't have to. http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/ -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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How do I get W8 RTM?
On 17 Oct 2012, XS11E wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8: You don't have to. http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/ That does look like a nice keyboard, but pricey at $135. Thing is, I've got 3 genuine IBM keyboards that work perfectly. I love typing on them. They're built like tanks and will probably outlive me. I'd hate to replace a perfectly excellent keyboard just because of that damn Windows key. It may come down to it someday, but I will resist it as long as I can. |
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How do I get W8 RTM?
On 2012-10-17, Nil wrote:
I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one. The Windows key is a must to use Windows 8 effectively yes. What you can do is map the CapsLock key as the Windows Key. Or even better, CapsLock as Ctrl, and the left Ctrl key as the Windows key. -- Morten Nygaard Ã…snes http://www.twitter.com/mortenaa |
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Windows Key - Character code 0xFF
Last key in the WingDings Font in Character Map. Try copying it in Character Map and paste it into whatever you have (mouse, keyboard) to remap. -- ....winston msft mvp mail "Nil" wrote in message ... Is there any other alternative? Something that would let me use a key combination to mimic the Windows key, or remap a little-used one such as "Scroll Lock"? |
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How do I get W8 RTM?
SC Tom wrote:
"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message ... SC Tom wrote: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message ... SC Tom wrote: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message ... SC Tom wrote: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message ... ...winston wrote: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message ... I have heard that Windows 8 RTM is available for everyone, but every download I see in Microsoft requires a username and password. Can someone direct me to a download that doesn't require a sign in? General Availability afiak remains Oct 26. Sure you're not downloading Windows 8 RTM 'Evaluation Version' ? - 90 day trial - not upgradeable to the final GA licensed version Yes, I'm getting the 90 day evaluation version. 90 days is more than enough time to decide if I want to install it permanently. If I do, I'll pick up a copy of the educational release at the university IT department when it is available. I installed it yesterday (Enterprise Eval 64-bit), and had a few devices that weren't picked up, or updated. One was my wireless, but I managed to find a work-around on line. After fixing the rest of the devices, I installed Classic Shell, and kinda like it (Win8). I probably won't buy it when it's released, since I haven't seen it being any faster on anything I've done with Win7, but I have to admit that the RTM is definitely better than the two preview versions I tried. Part of the driver problem is that Acer hasn't released any for my Aspire V3-731 yet. I was able to shotgun a couple of Win7 drivers in, and the others came directly from Intel and Qualcomm-Atheros. I don't like the tiles, but with Classic Shell I can bypass that and add a start menu. There are still some things that won't get added that way, so I have to drop out to the tiles to do them (one is Solitaire). Then it gave me grief using my Live ID sign in sigh. I'll keep it for a while and test it out, but unless I see something radical that I haven't seen yet, I'll pull that drive and put my Win7 one back in. Thanks for the heads up. I haven't installed it, yet, but when I do it will be as a dual boot with Win 7. You said you "kinda like it." What is it you like, compared to Win 7? I guess I should have said I kinda like the fact that it's not any slower than Win7. It does seem leaner, but I can't truly explain what I mean by that. It's very responsive, but that may be because it's a fresh installation with no third-party software installed yet. I dislike the whole tile thing, though. Even with Classic Shell, sooner or later, you have to drop out to the Start tiles to get to things. I may uninstall Classic Shell (or just reinstall Win8) and see if I can get used to the tile system, but since I couldn't stand it in the two previews I had installed, I doubt seriously if I'll like it any better even if it reacts faster and more smoothly. I probably will buy it, even if I don't install it right away. I had forgotten about the new PC $15 upgrade until I saw it in another newsgroup. Since I just bought a new laptop last month, I qualify for it. $15 for a new operating system? Hard to pass *that* up :-) I have friends in low places, like the university IT department, so I can get it cheap. I didn't pay anything for Windows 7 Ultimate. I know I won't ever like the tiles. I have been running with icon free desktops since Windows 95. I use the task bar for my frequently used items. I was disappointed when I discovered that Windows 7 no longer allowed an active desktop, but I figured out how to work around it. This serves as my living room clock: http://crash.thedatalist.com/temp/desktop.jpg There are also some hidden features that show up with a mouseover. Oh, I know what you mean about desktop icons. I've been icon free since 98/XP (I don't recall I was any further back than that). I look at my SO's desktop and wonder how she finds anything :-0 Except for the few items shown on the taskbar, I use the Start menu and Explorer for everything. Does your background behind the clock change, or is it part of the clock? I think I could get used to the clock :-) Where did you get it, or did you write it? The background is part of the clock, but it is selectable. I wrote all the code for the clock, including a separate script that generated the hands and dials, also selectable. The weather information is read from a local weather website. Kudos! That's a nice desktop! Thank you. You can see why I am not interested in a screen filled with tiles. -- Crash "The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion." ~ Arnold H. Glasow ~ |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:20:24 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote in
article ... If you want the ultimate Win8 machine, here it is: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-US Bill's answer to the iPad :-) Ordered one last night (I love my job!), should have it by 10/26. Then I'll get to see for myself if Windows 8 is really any better on a tablet than I've found it to be on a desktop workstation. -- Zaphod Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt |
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"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:20:24 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote in article ... If you want the ultimate Win8 machine, here it is: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-US Bill's answer to the iPad :-) Ordered one last night (I love my job!), should have it by 10/26. Then I'll get to see for myself if Windows 8 is really any better on a tablet than I've found it to be on a desktop workstation. I'll be waiting to hear how you like it. Since I don't have a need for a tablet, I won't be getting one, but I can see where they would have been useful when I was working IT way back when. -- SC Tom |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:28:40 -0400, Nil wrote:
On 16 Oct 2012, Paul wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: Simple. Plug in a second keyboard. Leave it off to the side of your normal sitting position. If you need obscure keys, reach for the other keyboard. If you only have to generate those sequences infrequently, it wouldn't be a big deal. If you could see my desk, you'd know there wasn't room for another keyboard. Maybe I'll hire a servant to hold it quietly in the corner and press it on my command. Or a trained monkey, if it can be taught to poop in a box and not the floor. Or maybe this is a good reason to finally have some children. Thanks, Microsoft for helping me to continue my bloodline! Is there any other alternative? Something that would let me use a key combination to mimic the Windows key, or remap a little-used one such as "Scroll Lock"? The trick is to find a way to mimic pressing a second key while holding the Windows key down. I'm not sure that the suggestions by Paul and ...winston would do that. OK- here's what I did just now using Nil's idea - with the mouse I clicked and held the on-screen Windows key, then pressed e on the physical keyboard. It worked just like the real thing. Cool. I didn't try ...winston's idea, but it's surely worth a look. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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How do I get W8 RTM?
I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally
unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one. You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called bucking spring technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards using it and also have a Windows key http://pckeyboard.com -- Tom Lake |
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On 10/18/2012 8:13 AM, Tom Lake wrote:
I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one. You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called bucking spring technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards using it and also have a Windows key http://pckeyboard.com -- Tom Lake Oops! I meant "buckling" of course! I don't like bucking springs at all! Tom L |
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How do I get W8 RTM?
Tom Lake wrote:
I'm getting the impression that Windows 8 is just about totally unusable unless you have a Windows Key. I do not, and I don't care to give up my beloved clicky IBM keybord just to get one. You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called buckling spring technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards using it and also have a Windows key http://pckeyboard.com And many more. Just Google "clicky keyboard" and check out the hits! http://www.clickykeyboards.com/ http://www.daskeyboard.com/ http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/cate...name=Keyboards P. S. Tom, I added the "l" for you! -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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How do I get W8 RTM?
On 18 Oct 2012, Tom Lake wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8: You don't have to give up the clicky feel. That's called bucking spring technology and there's a company that still makes keyboards using it and also have a Windows key http://pckeyboard.com Yeah, I know, but I have not just one, but THREE perfectly working IBM keyboards (sometimes dumpster diving pays off!) and I don't relish paying 100+ $s for a new one that may or may not be as well-made, just for one extra key. I will resist as long as I can. |
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