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  #331  
Old November 24th 11, 01:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mack A. Damia
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:34:09 +0000, choro wrote:

On 23/11/2011 22:37, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In article , on Wed, 23 Nov 2011,
choro wrote
On 22/11/2011 20:55, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In article , on Tue, 22 Nov 2011,
choro wrote
On 21/11/2011 12:12, Mack A. Damia wrote:
[]
I live in a deserted community - don't have many friends at all. I'm
on the beach and own a gorgeous home overlooking the Pacific Ocean.
Hate to give it up, but there's nothing going on down here. Trouble
is, I could move somewhere and experience the same thing. I'm not
much of a social animal, and that's what is good about the Internet
and Usenet.

This is the bane of modern society. We tend to live a lonely life in a
sea of a multitude of people. Luckily for me, I am in email touch with

Why is something that allows us to have lots of friends, without having
to physically share our space with them, a "bane" - or is that not what
you meant there?

Because meeting friends in real life is different. It is like the


Yes, but that doesn't make something which makes non-physical "meeting"
easier a bane.

difference between going to a concert or listening to the same music
on a home music system. The atmosphere is not the same. I met some
friends


(No, you can smell each other.)

today and am chatting here with you lot who I have started thinking of
as Internet friends. And though I enjoy both types, real life meeting


Likewise - I'm thinking of several in this thread as friends; should I
get the chance to meet in person, I might well do so. (Is that the
effect of a bane?)

with friends offers infinitely more than Internet friendship.

[]
Who doesn't like a bit of privacy? But man being a social animal, he


Speak for yourself ... (-:

needs the physical human companionship as well. The important thing, I


... seriously, yes, but we all have different degrees of such need.
[]
And in any case, I am not asking for everybody to listen to Glenn
Gould. All I am doing is saying that Glenn Gould is a phenomenal
player and not to be compared with the likes of Liberace. If you do
not respect my view, nobody is forcing you to stop listening to
Liberace and start listening to Glenn Gould.


And nobody is forcing _you_ to do the opposite.

But I am not going to lower my standards for the equivalent of
political correctness in the field of music.
-- choro


I don't know Bach well enough to comment myself, but I can see that
someone could play so precisely that he will enthral some listeners, and
bore others.


Each to his own, as they say! I once heard a Cockney man describe girls'
breasts *"like two fried eggs"*. But I guess he was talking of fresh
laid eggs preferably laid within the last 24 hours. But failing that I
prefer to buy the freshest eggs I can because when you break a not very
fresh egg into a frying pan the white spread out to cover most of the
base of the frying pan and they they look like a geriatric woman's
breasts! For those who don't know any better, what does it matter any
way? To them an egg is an egg and that is the end of the matter. But if
you know the difference, what then?!



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  #332  
Old November 24th 11, 01:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Ed Cryer
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On 23/11/2011 23:33, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:44:25 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

On 23/11/2011 06:10, choro wrote:
On 23/11/2011 04:50, choro wrote:
On 22/11/2011 20:15, Ed Cryer wrote:
On 22/11/2011 18:35, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:48:08 +0000, choro wrote:

On 21/11/2011 23:21, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In , on Mon, 21 Nov 2011,
wrote
For the correct spelling of Dvorak, with those funny characters, see
http://www.procantare.org/images/march04_prog_notes.pdf

This I copied from Stumbling Block's posting and it shows up
properly
on MY screen...
"BTW, it's Dvo0
If you can't see it properly you must set your News Reader to use
the
Western-ISO-8859-1 for your Default Character Encoding. At least
that's what I have got mine set to.

You'll find it under...
ToolsAccount SettingsServer Settings -- at least in Thunderbird.
-- choro

I fear this ancient Turnpike doesn't (AFAIK) have the ability to
select
which set it is using. (But it might and I don't know about it.)
[]

The second option is the more likely one. But in this day and age I
can't understand why they can't write programs that will automatically
select the character encoding used and automatically display the
correct
characters. But I guess we are not far off that target.
-- choro

I've discovered that my newsreader tries to do that by choosing its
character sets according to a mysterious cabalistic code, which helps
mess up some people trying to read my posts when I use non-English
characters. I've made changes, but I have little faith ...


Unicode was supposed to rid us of all those problems. But it hasn't!
It's just added to the mayhem.

Here's some classical Greek in Unicode.
I wait to see what it transmutes into a while down the line.
Probably just a load of ??????????
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. 2
οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν. 3 πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο, καὶ χωρὶς
αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο οὐδὲ ἕν. ὃ γέγονεν 4 ἐν αὐτῷ ζωὴ ἦν, καὶ ἡ ζωὴ ἦν τὸ φῶς
τῶν ἀνθρώπων· 5 καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει, καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ
κατέλαβεν.

Perfetto in my screen!
-- choro

I guess I should have said "on" my screen. How did I let this one slip
through?

I know! It is "Wakey, wake up!" time and I am still *at* it instead of
being at it! Did I hear you say, "At what?"

Do you mind? There might be children following this very thread!!!
-- choro


Ed


Excellent. You've stayed in Unicode and it's still there with all its
strange diacriticals that modern Greek has abandoned.

For those asking what it actually is, it's the opening paragraph of St
John's Gospel; In the beginning was the Word.

Ed


And it's no easier to understand in Greek than in English :-)


It's easy in English if you change "Word". In Greek it's "logos"; and
that meant something more like rationality or reason.
So, it's mainstream ancient Greek philosophy of the Plato/ Aristotle
type. Reason and godhead, they go together, reason is divine, humans
have it.

St John seems to have known quite a bit of Greek philosophy. He's the
only one who has Pilate asking Jesus "What is truth?".

And it's easy to see why St Jerome translated it into Latin as "Verbum".
He didn't want that pre-Christian sophistry cluttering up the unmediated
word of God.

Ed

  #333  
Old November 24th 11, 09:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 11/24/2011, Ed Cryer posted:
On 23/11/2011 23:33, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:44:25 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

On 23/11/2011 06:10, choro wrote:
On 23/11/2011 04:50, choro wrote:
On 22/11/2011 20:15, Ed Cryer wrote:
On 22/11/2011 18:35, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:48:08 +0000, choro wrote:

On 21/11/2011 23:21, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In , on Mon, 21 Nov 2011,
wrote
For the correct spelling of Dvorak, with those funny characters,
see
http://www.procantare.org/images/march04_prog_notes.pdf

This I copied from Stumbling Block's posting and it shows up
properly
on MY screen...
"BTW, it's Dvo0
If you can't see it properly you must set your News Reader to use
the
Western-ISO-8859-1 for your Default Character Encoding. At least
that's what I have got mine set to.

You'll find it under...
ToolsAccount SettingsServer Settings -- at least in Thunderbird.
-- choro

I fear this ancient Turnpike doesn't (AFAIK) have the ability to
select
which set it is using. (But it might and I don't know about it.)
[]

The second option is the more likely one. But in this day and age I
can't understand why they can't write programs that will
automatically
select the character encoding used and automatically display the
correct
characters. But I guess we are not far off that target.
-- choro

I've discovered that my newsreader tries to do that by choosing its
character sets according to a mysterious cabalistic code, which helps
mess up some people trying to read my posts when I use non-English
characters. I've made changes, but I have little faith ...


Unicode was supposed to rid us of all those problems. But it hasn't!
It's just added to the mayhem.

Here's some classical Greek in Unicode.
I wait to see what it transmutes into a while down the line.
Probably just a load of ??????????
ν ρχ ν λγος, κα λγος ν πρς τν θεν, κα θες ν λγος.
2
οτος ν ν ρχ πρς τν θεν. 3 πντα δι’ ατο γνετο, κα χωρς
ατο γνετο οδ ν. γγονεν 4 ν ατ ζω ν, κα ζω ν τ φς
τν νθρπων· 5 κα τ φς ν τ σκοτ φανει, κα σκοτα ατ ο
κατλαβεν.

Perfetto in my screen!
-- choro

I guess I should have said "on" my screen. How did I let this one slip
through?

I know! It is "Wakey, wake up!" time and I am still *at* it instead of
being at it! Did I hear you say, "At what?"

Do you mind? There might be children following this very thread!!!
-- choro


Ed

Excellent. You've stayed in Unicode and it's still there with all its
strange diacriticals that modern Greek has abandoned.

For those asking what it actually is, it's the opening paragraph of St
John's Gospel; In the beginning was the Word.

Ed


And it's no easier to understand in Greek than in English :-)


It's easy in English if you change "Word". In Greek it's "logos"; and that
meant something more like rationality or reason.
So, it's mainstream ancient Greek philosophy of the Plato/ Aristotle type.
Reason and godhead, they go together, reason is divine, humans have it.


St John seems to have known quite a bit of Greek philosophy. He's the only
one who has Pilate asking Jesus "What is truth?".


And it's easy to see why St Jerome translated it into Latin as "Verbum". He
didn't want that pre-Christian sophistry cluttering up the unmediated word of
God.


Ed


I can't say that yur emendation helps, but then again, I might be from
the wrong tradition to make sense out of the passage. Still, I have to
say that what you say is informative.

In truth (no pun or joke intended, this time) I knew what the Greek
was, although I certainly don't know every word in the passage. But
once I saw "ν ρχ ν λγος, κα λγος...", I really didn't need
every word. It's a rather distinctive introductory phrase :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


  #334  
Old November 24th 11, 11:31 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Ed Cryer
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On 24/11/2011 20:50, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 11/24/2011, Ed Cryer posted:
On 23/11/2011 23:33, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:44:25 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

On 23/11/2011 06:10, choro wrote:
On 23/11/2011 04:50, choro wrote:
On 22/11/2011 20:15, Ed Cryer wrote:
On 22/11/2011 18:35, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:48:08 +0000, choro wrote:

On 21/11/2011 23:21, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In , on Mon, 21 Nov
2011,
wrote
For the correct spelling of Dvorak, with those funny
characters, see
http://www.procantare.org/images/march04_prog_notes.pdf

This I copied from Stumbling Block's posting and it shows up
properly
on MY screen...
"BTW, it's Dvo0
If you can't see it properly you must set your News Reader to
use
the
Western-ISO-8859-1 for your Default Character Encoding. At least
that's what I have got mine set to.

You'll find it under...
ToolsAccount SettingsServer Settings -- at least in
Thunderbird.
-- choro

I fear this ancient Turnpike doesn't (AFAIK) have the ability to
select
which set it is using. (But it might and I don't know about it.)
[]

The second option is the more likely one. But in this day and
age I
can't understand why they can't write programs that will
automatically
select the character encoding used and automatically display the
correct
characters. But I guess we are not far off that target.
-- choro

I've discovered that my newsreader tries to do that by choosing its
character sets according to a mysterious cabalistic code, which
helps
mess up some people trying to read my posts when I use non-English
characters. I've made changes, but I have little faith ...


Unicode was supposed to rid us of all those problems. But it hasn't!
It's just added to the mayhem.

Here's some classical Greek in Unicode.
I wait to see what it transmutes into a while down the line.
Probably just a load of ??????????
��ν ��ρχ��� ��ν �� λ��γος, κα�� �� λ��γος ��ν πρ��ς τ��ν θε��ν,
κα�� θε��ς ��ν �� λ��γος. 2
ο��τος ��ν ��ν ��ρχ��� πρ��ς τ��ν θε��ν. 3 π��ντα δι’ α��το���
��γ��νετο, κα�� χωρ��ς
α��το��� ��γ��νετο ο��δ�� ��ν. �� γ��γονεν 4 ��ν α��τ��� ζω��
��ν, κα�� �� ζω�� ��ν τ�� φ���ς
τ���ν ��νθρ��πων· 5 κα�� τ�� φ���ς ��ν τ��� σκοτ����� φα��νει,
κα�� �� σκοτ��α α��τ�� ο��
κατ��λαβεν.

Perfetto in my screen!
-- choro

I guess I should have said "on" my screen. How did I let this one slip
through?

I know! It is "Wakey, wake up!" time and I am still *at* it instead of
being at it! Did I hear you say, "At what?"

Do you mind? There might be children following this very thread!!!
-- choro


Ed

Excellent. You've stayed in Unicode and it's still there with all its
strange diacriticals that modern Greek has abandoned.

For those asking what it actually is, it's the opening paragraph of St
John's Gospel; In the beginning was the Word.

Ed

And it's no easier to understand in Greek than in English :-)


It's easy in English if you change "Word". In Greek it's "logos"; and
that meant something more like rationality or reason.
So, it's mainstream ancient Greek philosophy of the Plato/ Aristotle
type. Reason and godhead, they go together, reason is divine, humans
have it.


St John seems to have known quite a bit of Greek philosophy. He's the
only one who has Pilate asking Jesus "What is truth?".


And it's easy to see why St Jerome translated it into Latin as
"Verbum". He didn't want that pre-Christian sophistry cluttering up
the unmediated word of God.


Ed


I can't say that yur emendation helps, but then again, I might be from
the wrong tradition to make sense out of the passage. Still, I have to
say that what you say is informative.

In truth (no pun or joke intended, this time) I knew what the Greek was,
although I certainly don't know every word in the passage. But once I
saw "��ν ��ρχ��� ��ν �� λ��γος, κα�� �� λ��γος...", I really didn't need
every word. It's a rather distinctive introductory phrase :-)


A bit like "Fiat lux; et facta est lux" in Latin.

Ed

  #335  
Old November 25th 11, 11:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 11/24/2011, Ed Cryer posted:
I can't say that yur emendation helps, but then again, I might be from
the wrong tradition to make sense out of the passage. Still, I have to
say that what you say is informative.

In truth (no pun or joke intended, this time) I knew what the Greek was,
although I certainly don't know every word in the passage. But once I
saw "??? ??????? ??? ?? ??????, ?a?? ?? ??????...", I really didn't need
every word. It's a rather distinctive introductory phrase :-)


A bit like "Fiat lux; et facta est lux" in Latin.


At least I understand the *meaning* of that in English, Latin, and
Hebrew: it's the Biblical equivalent of Maxwell's equations...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


  #336  
Old December 8th 11, 12:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 11/19/2011, Gene E. Bloch posted:
Here's another 9:8, but this time it's Q-S-Q-Q, accented on the S; it's
Macedonian, IIRC (and it sounds Macedonian). It's called Shto mi e milo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsnVgdIWQSw


Here's a fragment of the same melody with a different title and lyrics,
showing the dance as well (it's the only one I could find under the
alternate name):


**** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjY7L...eature=related ****


There's another tune with the same name and lyrics, which kept turning
up while I looked for the one above. This one, another favorite of mine,
is in a S-Q-Q rhythm. Since I love this one too, I had add these links:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0OIGWRKsc0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjY7L...eature=related


I imagine no one cares any more, but I was trying to track down a track
that I'd lost from my shortcut list, so I looked for it in this post
and realized that the second link above (now marked with stars) is
wrong. I accidentally duplicated the last link.

I meant this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7D9zVIu_Bo

which was the one I had lost, so I still had to track it down in the
world :-)

(This time I checked before pressing Send!)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


  #337  
Old December 12th 11, 09:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Odysseus
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In article ,
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote:

snip

I'm not sure I'd like to march to a 9:8 rhythm. Even though I really do
*stumble*, I still prefer to march in a duple rhythm. In short, I don't
think a march would be in 9:8.


Most (if not all) "retreat marches" for the Highland bagpipe are in
triple time. The majority, like "The Green Hills of Tyrol" (popularly
sung as "A Scottish Soldier") are in 3/4, but there are a few in 9/8.
Among the latter my favourite is a tune called "The Battle of the Somme":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLJEzQecVbI

(A little fast here IMO, but that seems to be the fashion these days.)

--
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  #338  
Old December 12th 11, 10:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.possessive.its.has.no.apostrophe
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 12/12/2011, Odysseus posted:
In article ,
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote:


snip


I'm not sure I'd like to march to a 9:8 rhythm. Even though I really do
*stumble*, I still prefer to march in a duple rhythm. In short, I don't
think a march would be in 9:8.


Most (if not all) "retreat marches" for the Highland bagpipe are in
triple time. The majority, like "The Green Hills of Tyrol" (popularly
sung as "A Scottish Soldier") are in 3/4, but there are a few in 9/8.
Among the latter my favourite is a tune called "The Battle of the Somme":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLJEzQecVbI


(A little fast here IMO, but that seems to be the fashion these days.)


There has been some progress reported upthread, which is worth looking
at to see where we were coming from.

I wonder, though - is your 9:8 rhythm played as three threes? I mean
like 1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3, with the 1's accented, but the first "1"
accented more strongly. E.g., like Beethoven's "ritmo di tre battute"
in the scherzo of the ninth symphony.

In fact, listening to your link, I hear it as 6:8 or 12:8, with the
kind of accenting I mentioned. Or maybe I could even hear it as 2:4 or
4:4 with the quarter notes as triplets...

But your post has made me unsure what the original 9:8 was that choro
had in mind. The rhythm I was talking about back then, common in
Bulgarian and other folk-dances, is 1-2 1-2 1-2 1-2-3, with the
strongest accent on the last "1" (but there are other 9:8's; I posted a
YouTube link to one or two).

Since you seem to like massed bagpipes with triple rhythms, check this
clip out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft9qUcu1mvU&NR=1

The clip is called "100 kaba gaidi", i.e., "100 big bagpipes". The
rhythm (it shows up after the introduction at about 1:20) is 2:4 or
4:4, with the quarter notes as triplets, or maybe it's really 6:8 or
12:8, again like Beethoven's ninth, the part of the scherzo that's
marked "ritmo di quattro battute". The rhythm is used for the family of
dances called "pravo oro", or "straight dance", danced as 2:4 or 4:4,
i.e. march-like.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)


 




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