Linux

On 02/04/2011 15:58, BillW50 wrote:


Really? Then who are buying all of those Linux antivirus software then?

sigh Those are to protect WINDOWS boxes on the same network as the
Linux box - if the network was all Linux then there would be no need for
them...

On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums if
you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

In ,
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 03:54 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Alias wrote:
Never said that. What I *have* said is that Linux is bulletproof
*compared* to Windows.

A Linux virus gains root control by a simple buffer overflow. So how
is it bulletproof compared to Windows? Gee that is how Windows
viruses does it too. Maybe Linux should try another bulletproof
vest? ;-)

You're an idiot.

I know, you tell me that all of the time. ;-)

Having said that, those vulnerabilities were patched long ago,
please try to keep up or can you with that big steel shoved up your
sorry ass?

Gee Windows doesn't get patches too? Funny that is what I thought
those Windows Updates are for. ;-)

There are vulnerabilities dating back years that have never been
patched. Linux patches when the patches are ready, not once a month.

Really? Then why are there Linux anti-virus software then?

So when did Linux become Gold and there is no more holes in Linux to
be found? I missed that announcement, so can you show it to us?
Because the last I heard is that Linux had holes in it since the
beginning, three years ago, today and long into the future.

What, exactly, do you not understand about the words "compared to"?

Compared to what? Windows? Well from my personal experience, Windows
viruses are not a personal threat to me because I have been running
Windows since '93 and I never had one yet. Take a tip from this guy.

Viruses don't harm, ignorance does!
http://vx.netlux.org/

Linux is said to not have the number of viruses because Linux is so tiny
in comparison. So why bother writing Linux viruses when most people use
Windows anyway? There is no question inn my mind that if the roles were
reversed and 99% were using Linux. You can bet Linux would have tons
more viruses than Windows did.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era)
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums if
you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to look.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707

On 02/04/2011 16:35, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums if
you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to look.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707


sigh That's a vulnerability in Ubuntu 6.06 - that version is FIVE
YEARS OLD - I shouldn't think ANYONE is using it now. Can't you come up
with anything more recent? Like to list the vulnerabilities in XP?
That's the same age...

On 04/02/2011 05:34 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 03:54 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Alias wrote:
Never said that. What I *have* said is that Linux is bulletproof
*compared* to Windows.

A Linux virus gains root control by a simple buffer overflow. So how
is it bulletproof compared to Windows? Gee that is how Windows
viruses does it too. Maybe Linux should try another bulletproof
vest? ;-)

You're an idiot.

I know, you tell me that all of the time. ;-)

Having said that, those vulnerabilities were patched long ago,
please try to keep up or can you with that big steel shoved up your
sorry ass?

Gee Windows doesn't get patches too? Funny that is what I thought
those Windows Updates are for. ;-)

There are vulnerabilities dating back years that have never been
patched. Linux patches when the patches are ready, not once a month.

Really? Then why are there Linux anti-virus software then?

To protect Windows computers connected to Linux computers.


So when did Linux become Gold and there is no more holes in Linux to
be found? I missed that announcement, so can you show it to us?
Because the last I heard is that Linux had holes in it since the
beginning, three years ago, today and long into the future.

What, exactly, do you not understand about the words "compared to"?

Compared to what? Windows? Well from my personal experience, Windows
viruses are not a personal threat to me because I have been running
Windows since '93 and I never had one yet.

LOL! Liar. Anti virus and anti malware programs are only as good as
their definitions which always come *after* the fact. You're probably
infected and don't even know it.

Take a tip from this guy.

Viruses don't harm, ignorance does!
http://vx.netlux.org/

Never heard of the drive by malware, eh? Everyone act surprised.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic..._cyberatt ack


Linux is said to not have the number of viruses because Linux is so tiny
in comparison. So why bother writing Linux viruses when most people use
Windows anyway? There is no question inn my mind that if the roles were
reversed and 99% were using Linux. You can bet Linux would have tons
more viruses than Windows did.


That's the FUD that MS wants you to believe and you swallow it hook,
line and sinker.

--
Alias

On 04/02/2011 05:35 PM, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums if
you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to look.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707


From the rip off anti malware for Linux web site you quote:

"The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the
following package versions:

Ubuntu 6.06 LTS:"

A bit behind the times, eh what? I'm running 10.10.

--
Alias

In ,
Peter Foldes wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
Alias wrote:
I have nuked Windows on net books and installed Linux on dozens of
net books for people unhappy with Windows and all the malware it
gets. You, as usual, don't know what the **** you're talking about.

The truth is the pot is calling the kettle black again. Okay Alias,
show us the data that supports your claim? As the last data I saw
Linux was still less than 1% of desktop users.

Not knocking Linux but aside from their servers which are better than
the ones MS has, their Desktop and laptop users are less than 1% of
the total in the world
What I never got an answer from any Linux user is why is Linux free
and how do they pay their employees when they give it away.
I know the answer but nobody in the Linux fanclub has yet hit on it

Also as far as vulnerabilities goes, Linux is way up there also

http://www.vupen.com/english/linux-advisories/2

Yes isn't that odd?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era)
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

On 04/02/2011 05:47 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Peter Foldes wrote:
wrote in message
...
In ,
Alias wrote:
I have nuked Windows on net books and installed Linux on dozens of
net books for people unhappy with Windows and all the malware it
gets. You, as usual, don't know what the **** you're talking about.

The truth is the pot is calling the kettle black again. Okay Alias,
show us the data that supports your claim? As the last data I saw
Linux was still less than 1% of desktop users.

Not knocking Linux but aside from their servers which are better than
the ones MS has, their Desktop and laptop users are less than 1% of
the total in the world
What I never got an answer from any Linux user is why is Linux free
and how do they pay their employees when they give it away.
I know the answer but nobody in the Linux fanclub has yet hit on it

Also as far as vulnerabilities goes, Linux is way up there also

http://www.vupen.com/english/linux-advisories/2

Yes isn't that odd?


Not if you're not ignorant like you. Informed people know that all
operating systems get security updates. Linux gets them much, much
quicker. I've had three kernel updates on this Linux Mint install since
I installed it last year.

--
Alias

On 02/04/2011 4:41 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:35, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums if
you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to look.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707


sigh That's a vulnerability in Ubuntu 6.06 - that version is FIVE
YEARS OLD - I shouldn't think ANYONE is using it now. Can't you come up
with anything more recent? Like to list the vulnerabilities in XP?
That's the same age...


PMSL

It's a good job they fixed it on March 25, then. Priceless!!

Anyway, the kernel was vulnerable and there are a lot more recent
examples.

In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:35, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums
if you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to
look. http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707

sigh That's a vulnerability in Ubuntu 6.06 - that version is FIVE
YEARS OLD - I shouldn't think ANYONE is using it now. Can't you come
up with anything more recent? Like to list the vulnerabilities in XP?
That's the same age...

Odd, some would call Ubuntu a virus. As Linux fanatics convinced me to
run Ubuntu Live. And they said don't worry, it won't harm your Windows
install. As Linux won't touch it. As it runs totally in RAM and won't
even look at the drive.

Ok sounds good to me and I ran Ubuntu Live v8.xx and some things didn't
work like the WiFi, webcam, and stuff. Ok that was fun. So I rebooted to
Windows and it won't let me into the desktop. A window displayed said
Windows Installer and nothing would work. Odd since I just ran Ubuntu
Live, wouldn't you say?

Restored Windows from a backup and it was running just fine. Say you
don't think Linux users lied to me do you? Naw... Linux users never lie
right? Well just in case, I ran Ubuntu Live again. Rebooted to Windows
and lo and behold, Windows is screwed up again. But it can't be Linux
right?

Since it can't be Linux, I did it a third time. And as sure as the sun
rises, it did it again. So every time I ran Ubuntu Live, it toasted my
Windows install. And it turns out that Ubuntu Live actually does write
to the Windows partition. And it looks for the Windows pagefile to use
for itself. And if it doesn't find one (I didn't have one), Ubuntu gets
mad and toasts your Windows install.

I don't know Gordon? I believe some would classify that as a Windows
virus. After all, it does fit under the definition of one anyway. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era)
Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3

On 04/02/2011 06:08 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:35, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums
if you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to
look.http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707

sigh That's a vulnerability in Ubuntu 6.06 - that version is FIVE
YEARS OLD - I shouldn't think ANYONE is using it now. Can't you come
up with anything more recent? Like to list the vulnerabilities in XP?
That's the same age...

Odd, some would call Ubuntu a virus. As Linux fanatics convinced me to
run Ubuntu Live. And they said don't worry, it won't harm your Windows
install. As Linux won't touch it. As it runs totally in RAM and won't
even look at the drive.

Ok sounds good to me and I ran Ubuntu Live v8.xx and some things didn't
work like the WiFi, webcam, and stuff. Ok that was fun. So I rebooted to
Windows and it won't let me into the desktop. A window displayed said
Windows Installer and nothing would work. Odd since I just ran Ubuntu
Live, wouldn't you say?

Restored Windows from a backup and it was running just fine. Say you
don't think Linux users lied to me do you? Naw... Linux users never lie
right? Well just in case, I ran Ubuntu Live again. Rebooted to Windows
and lo and behold, Windows is screwed up again. But it can't be Linux
right?

Since it can't be Linux, I did it a third time. And as sure as the sun
rises, it did it again. So every time I ran Ubuntu Live, it toasted my
Windows install. And it turns out that Ubuntu Live actually does write
to the Windows partition. And it looks for the Windows pagefile to use
for itself. And if it doesn't find one (I didn't have one), Ubuntu gets
mad and toasts your Windows install.

I don't know Gordon? I believe some would classify that as a Windows
virus. After all, it does fit under the definition of one anyway. ;-)


Bitch, bitch, bitch.

--
Alias

On 02/04/2011 17:08, BillW50 wrote:


Ok sounds good to me and I ran Ubuntu Live v8.xx and some things didn't
work like the WiFi, webcam, and stuff.

Gosh - that's over TWO YEARS OLD.....

On 4/2/2011 10:58 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 12:38, Big Steel wrote:

You can keep that little pipe dream going about how Linux as an
architecture to prevent malware. I no more belive than I believe you.

Pipedream eh? So that's why well over 50% of the world's web servers
are Linux and yet, strange to seem, they don't get infected - the
Windows ones DO?

Really? Then who are buying all of those Linux antivirus software then?

Viruses and Worms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mputer_viruses
Malwa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
Viruses: http://vx.netlux.org/ (http://vx.netlux.org/vl.php)


Why do you respond to a preacher that is a child molester?

On 4/2/2011 12:45 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 17:08, BillW50 wrote:


Ok sounds good to me and I ran Ubuntu Live v8.xx and some things didn't
work like the WiFi, webcam, and stuff.

Gosh - that's over TWO YEARS OLD.....

You sure can get your chain yanked on a routine basis, you and that
Poppy Alias clown. I guess you two are just plain old yank-able clowns
over there in Europe.