Believe it or not but PC is coming back...

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:31:42 -0600, philo* wrote:

On 12/02/2014 05:53 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:12:59 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

Then there's the new and near-future medical apps. I'm waiting for one
that sends my vital signs to the doc's office, and will also give me an
alert when it detects what could be seriously bad news. I'd like it to
send an automatic 911 call to the nearest EMS pod, too.

You've received a new text from MedApp that says "Hello, this is MedApp
alerting you that your pulse has not been detected for at least 60 seconds.
EMS will be notified. May MedApp access your location?"


I would not mind having a 5 second warning if I'm about to drop dead.

I could at least sit down and avoid injuring myself.


Yes. A must-have.
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I know little about phones.

However the Ipad is excellent, a toy of course, but a good one. Especially
good for watching the world chess championship and other livestream stuff,
while doing something. Of course it is not much good without a PC for all
sorts of reasons. Almost the first thing you have to do is download Itunes
to the PC for example. Actually I think of the Ipad as a peripheral.

On 12/02/2014 12:15 PM, McGregor wrote:
Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.

When it introduced the Surface Pro 3 back in June, Microsoft's Panos Panay
spoke to this changing understanding of the market. Everyone thought the
iPad was going to kill the PC, Panay said at the time. But in the quarter
that had just ended, the iPad—once Apple's fastest-growing product of all
time—had suffered its first-ever year-over-year sales shortfall. Then it
happened again in the next quarter too. And according to IDC, Apple will
sell fewer iPads in all of 2014 than it did in the previous year, and
overall tablet sales are slowing to a crawl in 2014 after a feverish 50+
growth rate the year before.

More...

http://kinoplex.gazeta.pl/kinoplex/2...zawskie_021214



I have heard similar stories. Not their words but "the death
of the toy computers". Tablets, etc. are absolutely marvelous
for "receiving" information, but are an absolute NIGHTMARE
for creating information. Give me a real keyboard, laser mouse,
and monitor.

I think this progression you mentions would have gone faster
if M$ had not blew it so very badly with Windows Frankenstein
(w8) -- trying to meld a tablet with a laptop.

This got better when computer vendors revolted and made sure
they offered Windows 7 computers.

The read only crowd needs to be kept in a different category
than the information creation crowd. In a way, the iPad did
me a favor. Now only serious computer users call me and I
don't have to put up with "I only want to surf the Internet
and read my eMail". If that is all you want to do, don't buy
a full function business grade computer and then bitch about
its upkeep. (One wonders if they bitch every time they
have to put gas in their car!)

On 12/2/2014 6:03 PM, philo wrote:
On 12/02/2014 04:03 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
NY wrote on 12/2/2014 4:22 PM:

Smartphones have their place: for reading/sending emails, text
messages or
Skype messages when you are away from home - always assuming that you
can
get a decent mobile phone signal or can find a free wifi connection
that you
trust. The main thing I use my smartphone for (apart from as a phone,
obviously) is as a satnav (using the free, offline Here software) and
for
plotting where I am and where I've been on a proper Ordnance Survey
map (I
don't regard Google maps as maps, more as crude diagrams).

When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.

Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)




I'm 65 and retired a few years ago.

Though I did have to get my knees replaced, thus far my medical record
is extremely boring. No conditions, no medications not much of anything.

Still have my to-do list on a piece of paper
and though I've had a computer for 14 years,
my address book is a bunch of scraps of paper thrown into a box.


I /was/ going to get organized when I retired but realize now that will
never happen.

My /one/ accomplishment though:


I finally replaced that cracked window in the pantry this last summer.
It was cracked when I moved in here in 1979!

I'm very healthy too. Each morning I **** at 2AM, crap at 2:30. The
only thing wrong is I don't wake until 3.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:33:45 -0800, Todd wrote:

The read only crowd needs to be kept in a different category
than the information creation crowd. In a way, the iPad did
me a favor. Now only serious computer users call me and I
don't have to put up with "I only want to surf the Internet
and read my eMail". If that is all you want to do, don't buy
a full function business grade computer and then bitch about
its upkeep. (One wonders if they bitch every time they
have to put gas in their car!)

With gas heading for less than $2.00 a gallon, it's getting harder to
complain.

--

Char Jackson

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:31:42 -0600, philo* wrote:

[snip]

I would not mind having a 5 second warning if I'm about to drop dead.

I could at least sit down and avoid injuring myself.

No need. Morticians can do a lot to make a corpse look good.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:59:48 -0600, philo* wrote:

[snip]

I do have a laptop which rarely gets used

but when I do use it 98% of the time I plug in a mouse

Likewise except that I also plug in a keyboard.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

"McGregor" schreef in bericht
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Re; Embracing the PC
News_WIN_AUT_PaulThurrott_70x91
By Paul Thurrott

I know the year isn't quite over yet, but if there's one thing I'm really
happy about—excited for, really—in 2014, it's the resurgence of the PC.
After three years of coping with the notion that mobile devices like smart
phones and tablets could somehow replace PCs, we now have a more nuanced
view. And the funny thing is, it took the rise of these mobile devices to
drive home how relevant PCs really are.


It's never been away, nor planning to do it away. Most important reason is
having a working system as backup. (notebook already died twice!)



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On 2014-12-02, Alek Trishan wrote:
When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.
Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)

I'm alreay old, and have no use for smartphones. As far as I am concerned
a phone is a device for making calls, period.

I know several people who jumped on the tablet bandwagon, only to
abandon them for traditional laptops when they tried to get any
kind of real work done.

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philo wrote on 12/2/2014 6:03 PM:
On 12/02/2014 04:03 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
NY wrote on 12/2/2014 4:22 PM:

Smartphones have their place: for reading/sending emails, text messages or
Skype messages when you are away from home - always assuming that you can
get a decent mobile phone signal or can find a free wifi connection that you
trust. The main thing I use my smartphone for (apart from as a phone,
obviously) is as a satnav (using the free, offline Here software) and for
plotting where I am and where I've been on a proper Ordnance Survey map (I
don't regard Google maps as maps, more as crude diagrams).

When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.

Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)

I'm 65 and retired a few years ago.

I celebrated my 80th last month.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:46:02 -0500, Alek Trishan
wrote:

philo wrote on 12/2/2014 6:03 PM:

I'm 65 and retired a few years ago.

I celebrated my 80th last month.

Noobs. My grandmother lived alone and fended for herself (very
well) until she was 96. She passed away at 103. Not sure if it was old
age, though, or a fall.

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In message , Roger Blake
writes:
On 2014-12-02, Alek Trishan wrote:
When you get old, you'll be happy to have a potable device that has your
calendar, to-do lists, medical info etc at the ready.
Remember the PDA? One lives inside a smartphone. :-)

I'm alreay old, and have no use for smartphones. As far as I am concerned
a phone is a device for making calls, period.

I know several people who jumped on the tablet bandwagon, only to
abandon them for traditional laptops when they tried to get any
kind of real work done.

I draw the attention of the house to the Dilbert cartoons for 3, 4, and
5 December 2014.
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`Where a calculator on the Eniac is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs
30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and perhaps
weigh 1.5 tons.' Popular Mechanics, March 1949 (quoted in Computing 1999-12-16)

On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 22:07:05 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:


I draw the attention of the house to the Dilbert cartoons for 3, 4, and
5 December 2014.


Since I use a flip phone, I guess I'm a big dumb dinosaur too.

Ken Blake wrote:

Since I use a flip phone, I guess I'm a big dumb dinosaur too.

No, you're running with the celebs

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/05/iphone-samsung-galaxy-flip-phone-is-back

On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 23:48:37 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:

Since I use a flip phone, I guess I'm a big dumb dinosaur too.

No, you're running with the celebs

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/05/iphone-samsung-galaxy-flip-phone-is-back


If I were a celebrity (or at least if I had the money most celebrities
do) I would have a smart phone. The main reason I don't is the monthly
cost of having one.