Is safe online banking possible? sandbox?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 00:36:43 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:14:29 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 01:05:42 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Maybe her name is Debbie, so she thinks of the card as a soul mate.

Wolf: my remark is too stupid for *any* answer to be appropriate :-)

Am I missing a pop culture reference? Who is Debbie? :-)

Debbie just sounds like Debit, especially if you are (fake) French.

So she likes debit cards because she thinks "debit", or a version
thereof, is her name.

Maybe the allusion to Blondie is good because of the (false) stereotype
of dumb blondes, but I didn't think of that, Bob Henson did (I don't
know rock bands very much).

Now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense!

And what I mean by that is, if this were a case of getting across a pond by
hopping from stone to stone, I'd be very wet by now. :-)

I guess you really mean "that makes perfect sense - for *some* value of
sense" :-)

Sometimes I have trouble noticing that my way of thinking is not
necessarily universal.

I tested the Debbie-debit thing against an unbiased observer (i.e.,
someone who never reads Usenet!), and she didn't get it without
explanation either - and she supposedly has some inkling of how I
think...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:08:26 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

I don't want to play your childish games any longer.

Then I guess we're done here. Thank you for the thoughtful discussion. I
hope it has been as enjoyable and enlightening for you as it was for me.

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Char Jackson

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:41:43 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 00:36:43 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:14:29 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 01:05:42 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Maybe her name is Debbie, so she thinks of the card as a soul mate.

Wolf: my remark is too stupid for *any* answer to be appropriate :-)

Am I missing a pop culture reference? Who is Debbie? :-)

Debbie just sounds like Debit, especially if you are (fake) French.

So she likes debit cards because she thinks "debit", or a version
thereof, is her name.

Maybe the allusion to Blondie is good because of the (false) stereotype
of dumb blondes, but I didn't think of that, Bob Henson did (I don't
know rock bands very much).

Now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense!

And what I mean by that is, if this were a case of getting across a pond by
hopping from stone to stone, I'd be very wet by now. :-)

I guess you really mean "that makes perfect sense - for *some* value of
sense" :-)

Sometimes I have trouble noticing that my way of thinking is not
necessarily universal.

I tested the Debbie-debit thing against an unbiased observer (i.e.,
someone who never reads Usenet!), and she didn't get it without
explanation either - and she supposedly has some inkling of how I
think...


It wasn't just me. I'm relieved. :-)


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Char Jackson

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:13:27 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:41:43 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 00:36:43 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:14:29 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 01:05:42 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Maybe her name is Debbie, so she thinks of the card as a soul mate.

Wolf: my remark is too stupid for *any* answer to be appropriate :-)

Am I missing a pop culture reference? Who is Debbie? :-)

Debbie just sounds like Debit, especially if you are (fake) French.

So she likes debit cards because she thinks "debit", or a version
thereof, is her name.

Maybe the allusion to Blondie is good because of the (false) stereotype
of dumb blondes, but I didn't think of that, Bob Henson did (I don't
know rock bands very much).

Now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense!

And what I mean by that is, if this were a case of getting across a pond by
hopping from stone to stone, I'd be very wet by now. :-)

I guess you really mean "that makes perfect sense - for *some* value of
sense" :-)

Sometimes I have trouble noticing that my way of thinking is not
necessarily universal.

I tested the Debbie-debit thing against an unbiased observer (i.e.,
someone who never reads Usenet!), and she didn't get it without
explanation either - and she supposedly has some inkling of how I
think...

It wasn't just me. I'm relieved. :-)

LOL!

I bet you suspected all along that it was about me :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 21:20:18 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:13:27 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:41:43 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 00:36:43 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 17:14:29 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 01:05:42 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Maybe her name is Debbie, so she thinks of the card as a soul mate.

Wolf: my remark is too stupid for *any* answer to be appropriate :-)

Am I missing a pop culture reference? Who is Debbie? :-)

Debbie just sounds like Debit, especially if you are (fake) French.

So she likes debit cards because she thinks "debit", or a version
thereof, is her name.

Maybe the allusion to Blondie is good because of the (false) stereotype
of dumb blondes, but I didn't think of that, Bob Henson did (I don't
know rock bands very much).

Now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense!

And what I mean by that is, if this were a case of getting across a pond by
hopping from stone to stone, I'd be very wet by now. :-)

I guess you really mean "that makes perfect sense - for *some* value of
sense" :-)

Sometimes I have trouble noticing that my way of thinking is not
necessarily universal.

I tested the Debbie-debit thing against an unbiased observer (i.e.,
someone who never reads Usenet!), and she didn't get it without
explanation either - and she supposedly has some inkling of how I
think...

It wasn't just me. I'm relieved. :-)

LOL!

I bet you suspected all along that it was about me :-)

Non-linear thinking can be a sign of genius, I'm told. I don't remember who
told me that. :-)

--

Char Jackson

On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:38:03 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2015-04-23 2:26 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
[...]
Non-linear thinking can be a sign of genius, I'm told. I don't remember who
told me that.:-)

... if you persist at it.....

Yeah, that 99% requirement...

Well, at least I can be persistent :-)

Thought under certain circumstances some might call it nagging.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:28:26 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:21:58 +0100, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:50:10 -0400, Al Drake
wrote:

On 4/10/2015 4:17 PM, Tim Slattery wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:


I think Wolf only visits restaurants that bring a WiFi terminal to the
table, but I never think to ask about that before they show me to my table.

In my experience, such a restaurant is rare in the USA, but they are
very common in France and Italy, maybe in other countries in Europe
too.

In the US, the only restaurant I've seen with such gizmos is Uno's. No
place else.

In the US? You've been to how many?

I was at one a few minutes ago that supplies Wi-Fi. I've seen more
than I can count or even remember.

Sure, me too. But that's totally irrelevant to the topic under
discussion. We're not talking about Wi-Fi. We're talking about a
restaurant that brings to your table a "gizmo" (operated by Wi-Fi)
that accepts your credit card for payment of the bill.

They're universal here (as in: I don't think I've seen anything else for
about ten years) and I get the impression that they often work using a
cellular connection rather than WiFi. Less dependent on merchant
infrastructure.


You're in England. Yes, as I said, they are very common in France and
Italy, and I thought probably in most of the rest of Europe too.

Cellular vs. Wi-Fi? I have no idea.

Al Drake said "I can't speak for Canada or any other region of the US
but that's how it's done in the N.E. I haven't seen a wait person walk
away with a card in a long time." That's completely the opposite of my
experience. I've almost never seen it in the Southwest, where I live,
and I've also almost never seen it in NY, where I spend a couple of
weeks every year.

I'll be in San Francisco for a couple of weeks soon. If this thread is
still going on when I return (I hope not g) I'll post back with my
experiences there.


I just got back from two weeks in San Francisco. I used a credit card
to pay for dinner in 14 restaurants, for breakfast in another six or
seven, and for aperitifs in seven or eight bars. In all instances, the
waiter I gave the card to took it away to use it.

On Thu, 07 May 2015 17:10:19 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:28:26 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:21:58 +0100, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:50:10 -0400, Al Drake
wrote:

On 4/10/2015 4:17 PM, Tim Slattery wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:


I think Wolf only visits restaurants that bring a WiFi terminal to the
table, but I never think to ask about that before they show me to my table.

In my experience, such a restaurant is rare in the USA, but they are
very common in France and Italy, maybe in other countries in Europe
too.

In the US, the only restaurant I've seen with such gizmos is Uno's. No
place else.

In the US? You've been to how many?

I was at one a few minutes ago that supplies Wi-Fi. I've seen more
than I can count or even remember.

Sure, me too. But that's totally irrelevant to the topic under
discussion. We're not talking about Wi-Fi. We're talking about a
restaurant that brings to your table a "gizmo" (operated by Wi-Fi)
that accepts your credit card for payment of the bill.

They're universal here (as in: I don't think I've seen anything else for
about ten years) and I get the impression that they often work using a
cellular connection rather than WiFi. Less dependent on merchant
infrastructure.


You're in England. Yes, as I said, they are very common in France and
Italy, and I thought probably in most of the rest of Europe too.

Cellular vs. Wi-Fi? I have no idea.

Al Drake said "I can't speak for Canada or any other region of the US
but that's how it's done in the N.E. I haven't seen a wait person walk
away with a card in a long time." That's completely the opposite of my
experience. I've almost never seen it in the Southwest, where I live,
and I've also almost never seen it in NY, where I spend a couple of
weeks every year.

I'll be in San Francisco for a couple of weeks soon. If this thread is
still going on when I return (I hope not g) I'll post back with my
experiences there.


I just got back from two weeks in San Francisco. I used a credit card
to pay for dinner in 14 restaurants, for breakfast in another six or
seven, and for aperitifs in seven or eight bars. In all instances, the
waiter I gave the card to took it away to use it.

On a related note, the credit card that I use most frequently was cancelled
today, with my full approval, for fraud. Two weeks ago someone bought a
laptop computer with it and it sure wasn't me. My total liability will be
$0, and I'm thankful that it wasn't a debit card that was compromised.

--

Char Jackson

Char Jackson wrote:


On a related note, the credit card that I use most frequently was cancelled
today, with my full approval, for fraud. Two weeks ago someone bought a
laptop computer with it and it sure wasn't me. My total liability will be
$0, and I'm thankful that it wasn't a debit card that was compromised.

I've had the same thing happen with my debit card. The bank noticed a
non-normal usage, locked my card and called me. They wound up
canceling that transaction and sending me a new card. Total liability:
0$.

--
Tim Slattery
tim at risingdove dot com

On Fri, 08 May 2015 11:31:10 -0400, Tim Slattery
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:


On a related note, the credit card that I use most frequently was cancelled
today, with my full approval, for fraud. Two weeks ago someone bought a
laptop computer with it and it sure wasn't me. My total liability will be
$0, and I'm thankful that it wasn't a debit card that was compromised.

I've had the same thing happen with my debit card. The bank noticed a
non-normal usage, locked my card and called me. They wound up
canceling that transaction and sending me a new card. Total liability:
0$.

Lucky you. Our banks use "AS". Artificial Stupidity.
Good job I have insurance.
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