A backup of a backup of a backup...

Win8.1 SP1 Macrium.

I have several backups on various media, and I wonder if I can backup
all these onto a new large HDD. Peter

On 24/06/2015 01:39, Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1 SP1 Macrium.

I have several backups on various media, and I wonder if I can backup
all these onto a new large HDD. Peter
Of course you can as long as you have the resources to do it and time
but why do you need all those backups? Frankly, in 2015, you don't need
backups if you are prepared to use all the cloud space you get from big
corporations. Before anybody telling me about privacy and all that non
sense, let me tell you there is no such thing as privacy if you are
using any of digital systems. Even your TV and fridge/refrigerator is
relaying info to somebody out there who wants such info. even the smart
switches in your house for electricity or gas bills is transmitting info
to those companies. Even the US government can't keep its privacy
secure and so you don't have a chance to keep your privacy private.

Just have your own "data" backed up on MS's OneDrive or on Google
Drive. You don't need to backup the operating system because all new
machines have their own hidden partition that can be restored much more
faster than using your backups.

Good Guy wrote:
....all new
machines have their own hidden partition that can be restored much more
faster than using your backups.



False


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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:44:51 +0100, Good Guy
wrote:

On 24/06/2015 01:39, Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1 SP1 Macrium.

I have several backups on various media, and I wonder if I can backup
all these onto a new large HDD. Peter
Of course you can as long as you have the resources to do it and time
but why do you need all those backups? Frankly, in 2015, you don't need
backups if you are prepared to use all the cloud space you get from big
corporations. Before anybody telling me about privacy and all that non
sense, let me tell you there is no such thing as privacy if you are
using any of digital systems. Even your TV and fridge/refrigerator is
relaying info to somebody out there who wants such info. even the smart
switches in your house for electricity or gas bills is transmitting info
to those companies. Even the US government can't keep its privacy
secure and so you don't have a chance to keep your privacy private.

Just have your own "data" backed up on MS's OneDrive or on Google
Drive. You don't need to backup the operating system because all new
machines have their own hidden partition that can be restored much more
faster than using your backups.
Thanks. I'll look into it, but I not considered the cloud because I'm
not mobile.
Also, when you say "all new
machines have their own hidden partition" ..where is this because mine
was assembled in Dec 2010 with Win7 & Win8?

Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1 SP1 Macrium.

I have several backups on various media, and I wonder if I can backup
all these onto a new large HDD. Peter


I'd simply cut and paste them. Don't worry too much about Macrium having
them marked as being elsewhere than where they'll end up. A simple
double click on them will call up restore, as will a Macrium restore
media disk.
Make it nice and tidy on your new HDD. A folder called "Macrium Backups".

Ed

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:44:51 +0100, Good Guy wrote:

On 24/06/2015 01:39, Peter Jason wrote:
Win8.1 SP1 Macrium.

I have several backups on various media, and I wonder if I can backup
all these onto a new large HDD. Peter
Of course you can as long as you have the resources to do it and time
but why do you need all those backups? Frankly, in 2015, you don't need
backups if you are prepared to use all the cloud space you get from big
corporations. Before anybody telling me about privacy and all that non
sense, let me tell you there is no such thing as privacy if you are
using any of digital systems. Even your TV and fridge/refrigerator is
relaying info to somebody out there who wants such info. even the smart
switches in your house for electricity or gas bills is transmitting info
to those companies. Even the US government can't keep its privacy
secure and so you don't have a chance to keep your privacy private.

Just have your own "data" backed up on MS's OneDrive or on Google Drive.
You don't need to backup the operating system because all new machines
have their own hidden partition that can be restored much more faster
than using your backups.


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If you really want to be a 'Good Guy' as advertised in your from field,
first, you would spare us all the html stuff at the end of your post and
second you would not give us bad advice. Very few of us want to return
our machine to as purchased with all the unwanted sample software and the
pleasure of spending hours re-installing that which we do want.
I know nothing about the cloud, but I have lost a hd. The hd was kind
enough to give me sufficient warning to make an image backup a little
later than my existing one, and a chance to update my data partition
backup. Thus after installing a new hd, I was up and running in less than
half a day.
Maybe all that can be done from the cloud. Like I said, I know nothing
about the cloud except the one's that make rain.
The existence of a backup partition is of course only applicable to
machines like Dell and HP etc.

On 24 Jun 2015, dave wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

If you really want to be a 'Good Guy' as advertised in your from
field, first, you would spare us all the html stuff at the end of
your post and second you would not give us bad advice.

If you have been watching this clown, you'll have noticed that his
specific goal is to pollute these Usenet groups with irrelevant HTML
garbage *and* to put out bad and misleading "advice". IOW, he is
trolling and his pseudonym is intentionally ironic.

On 24/06/2015 23:46, dave wrote:
If you really want to be a 'Good Guy' as advertised in your from field,
first, you would spare us all the html stuff
If you really want to avoid HTML in emails and newsgroups then you
really first need to learn the basics of how to block html from
appearing in the emails. So get this right.



at the end of your post and
second you would not give us bad advice.
Very few of us want to return
our machine to as purchased with all the unwanted sample software and the
pleasure of spending hours re-installing that which we do want.

What is bad for you may not necessarily be bad for the majority of
people who had problems with their machines. The only way they know is
to reset the system as it was from the factory and this is the best way
forward for most people.
I know nothing about the cloud,
Then it is time to learn something new. We are in the 21st century.

but I have lost a hd. The hd was kind
enough to give me sufficient warning to make an image backup a little
later than my existing one, and a chance to update my data partition
backup. Thus after installing a new hd, I was up and running in less than
half a day.
In that case congratulate yourself and be happy about your
achievements. Not many people have HD problems because they change
their machines every 3 to 4 years. I do change my machines every 3.5
years and I expect to order 60 more machines end of August, early
September when scramble for Windows 10 is almost over and acres of
computer bytes have been used to write reviews.

In fact had you reset the system to factory level you would have been up
and running in less than 1 hour.

Maybe all that can be done from the cloud. Like I said, I know nothing
about the cloud except the one's that make rain.
In that case you really need to come to the 21st century because living
in caves is not going to educate you. start a new question about cloud
and we'll try our best to educate you on these newsgroups. I tale it
you are 88 years old, right?

The existence of a backup partition is of course only applicable to
machines like Dell and HP etc.

exactly,. why don't you buy one and then see how simple it is to get
back to business when disaster strikes. I take it you are jobless or a
pensioner with plenty of time at your disposal. Is this correct to
categorise your psychological profile?

On 24/06/2015 06:14, Peter Jason wrote:
Also, when you say "all new machines have their own hidden partition"
..where is this because mine was assembled in Dec 2010 with Win7 & Win8?

What is the make and model of your machine. Please tell us so that I
will post a link as to how to reset your machine. I take it you bought
your machine from DELL or HP, right? If not why not.

Good Guy wrote:
On 24/06/2015 23:46, dave wrote:
If you really want to be a 'Good Guy' as advertised in your from field,
first, you would spare us all the html stuff
If you really want to avoid HTML in emails and newsgroups then you
really first need to learn the basics of how to block html from
appearing in the emails. So get this right.



at the end of your post and
second you would not give us bad advice.
Very few of us want to return
our machine to as purchased with all the unwanted sample software and the
pleasure of spending hours re-installing that which we do want.

What is bad for you may not necessarily be bad for the majority of
people who had problems with their machines. The only way they know is
to reset the system as it was from the factory and this is the best way
forward for most people.
I know nothing about the cloud,
Then it is time to learn something new. We are in the 21st century.

but I have lost a hd. The hd was kind
enough to give me sufficient warning to make an image backup a little
later than my existing one, and a chance to update my data partition
backup. Thus after installing a new hd, I was up and running in less than
half a day.
In that case congratulate yourself and be happy about your
achievements. Not many people have HD problems because they change
their machines every 3 to 4 years. I do change my machines every 3.5
years and I expect to order 60 more machines end of August, early
September when scramble for Windows 10 is almost over and acres of
computer bytes have been used to write reviews.

In fact had you reset the system to factory level you would have been up
and running in less than 1 hour.

Maybe all that can be done from the cloud. Like I said, I know nothing
about the cloud except the one's that make rain.
In that case you really need to come to the 21st century because living
in caves is not going to educate you. start a new question about cloud
and we'll try our best to educate you on these newsgroups. I tale it
you are 88 years old, right?

The existence of a backup partition is of course only applicable to
machines like Dell and HP etc.

exactly,. why don't you buy one and then see how simple it is to get
back to business when disaster strikes. I take it you are jobless or a
pensioner with plenty of time at your disposal. Is this correct to
categorise your psychological profile?


That's not necessarily the issue (that people don't know how to do things)..
- it's the credibility of your information (comments and advice) that
many obviously believe doesn't warrant value. Couple your obvious
bigotry and discriminatory perception to assume or infer what not may be
true indicates a far greater ignorance and worthy of being ignored.


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

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If you're using the factory restore partition to get "up and running in less
than 1 hour", you obviously don't ask much of your PCs. Probably all you
need is a web browser, and there's one already built in. For most people,
that wouldn't be considered "up and running" at all.


My apologies for the garbage. It was like that when I found it.