Malware on an Apple Mac? Surely not!

Could have not said it better my self

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On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

Only a matter of time before Linux is targeted my friend a matter of time.
The mac camp thought the same about mac's and i phones

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On 2018-02-01 13:47:20 +0000, Doomsdrzej said:
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:25:04 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:
In article , Andy
wrote:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a
pc.
It's a proven fact .

**** off.

Windows can essentially get infected in a drive-by way as a result of
nefarious javacript on certain websites. Neither Linux nor Mac OS
allows for such a thing. Anyone who believes that Windows Defender is
sufficient protection or that Windows doesn't need anti-malware is
just fooling himself.

The only *real* anti-malware solution for a Windoze PC is to wipe the hard
drive and install Linux instead. You could install macOS X if you want to
be a naughty 'Hackintosh' user, but because it is hacked into "working",
it's a bit flakey and you'lll spend more time trying to get it to work
than you already do with Windoze.

On 2018-02-01 18:53, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:19:24 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.

Nowhere near as easily. Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections. When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

Not to say it's a non-issue. Since threats get identified and patched
on Mac OS. Usually long before exploitation can occur.

OTOH, I've run for a decade with no malware protection on my Macs (Mine,
several at work, SO's, son's). No infections at all. As a precaution I
run "Malwarebytes" once every few months. Never hit a thing.

Nobody could run a Windows PC for more than a few months in ordinary use
w/o getting infected. Never mind a decade over several machines.

For several years I have run McAfee, Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes on my W10 systems. I don't recall McAfee ever declaring that
it's found anything. Super anti Spyware occasionally finds something.
Malwarebytes regularly gets all concerned about utility files such as
Driver Detective. But I have had nothing serious as far as I know.

The first thing anti malware does is prevent the installation of
malware. In my W days, infected files were found regularly (for low
frequency values of regular). These were for the most part files
e-mailed to me but occasionally in distros of one sort or another. I
was glad to have the A/V s/w on any PC. My virtual PC's on my Macs all
have AVG or Avast.

Finding actual installed malware was much rarer - a 1 in few years sort
of thing - but did happen.

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On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 02:02:21 -0500, "Andy" wrote:

Only a matter of time before Linux is targeted my friend a matter of time.
The mac camp thought the same about mac's and i phones

It's literally impossible to make malware for Linux that is
widespread. While the kernel is generally common to all distributions,
its version is not. Some might be running 2.6 to this day while others
insist on having the latest at 4.15. Besides, how the heck will you
infect a kernel anyway? Even if you were to get someone to enter their
password and agree to install whatever it is that you're trying to
force onto their system, there's no guarantee that it will
successfully manage to do anything of worth since people use a variety
of desktop environments as well. Truthfully, trying to infect Linux is
like trying to take down a tank using a frail midget armed only with a
brittle stick.

For everything else, the types of packages used across the board is
not the same either. Most use .deb, a lot use .rpm but others either
have their own way of packaging applications or compile them from
source. Good luck producing malware for such heterogeneous systems.

In message Andy wrote:
I meant IOS11 in my orginal post and yes they are attacking it for some
reason.

People have been TRYING to attack iOS from the beginning. They've
failed. Then they crow about how they "infected" a jailbroken device
with malware installed by the user as if that's impressive.

MAC'S

I don't think you know what a MAC is. (Hint: it's not a Mac).

arnt going to be immune to viruses

The last Mac virus was in something like 1995 and was technically a
worm, not a virus. There are *non* macOS or OS X viruses. None. Nada.

You've been asked repeatedly to back up your claim of Mac viruses and
have failed to produce even a single one.

and malware attacks for ever to spite the denial by the mac camp

Everything that comes in contact with a human being is subject to
malware because people are stupid.

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On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:13:56 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

In message Andy wrote:
I meant IOS11 in my orginal post and yes they are attacking it for some
reason.

People have been TRYING to attack iOS from the beginning. They've
failed. Then they crow about how they "infected" a jailbroken device
with malware installed by the user as if that's impressive.

MAC'S

I don't think you know what a MAC is. (Hint: it's not a Mac).

arnt going to be immune to viruses

The last Mac virus was in something like 1995 and was technically a
worm, not a virus. There are *non* macOS or OS X viruses. None. Nada.

There has been malware infecting Mac OS since then but it requires a
user to download a pirated application throught torrents. I don't
recall it being _contagious_ like a virus though.

You've been asked repeatedly to back up your claim of Mac viruses and
have failed to produce even a single one.

and malware attacks for ever to spite the denial by the mac camp

Everything that comes in contact with a human being is subject to
malware because people are stupid.

True.

On 2018-02-02, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:13:56 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

The last Mac virus was in something like 1995 and was technically a
worm, not a virus. There are *non* macOS or OS X viruses. None. Nada.

There has been malware infecting Mac OS since then but it requires a
user to download a pirated application throught torrents.

Those are trojans, and are not the same thing as a virus. So Lewis is
right.

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On 2 Feb 2018 21:54:14 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2018-02-02, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:13:56 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

The last Mac virus was in something like 1995 and was technically a
worm, not a virus. There are *non* macOS or OS X viruses. None. Nada.

There has been malware infecting Mac OS since then but it requires a
user to download a pirated application throught torrents.

Those are trojans, and are not the same thing as a virus. So Lewis is
right.

Most likely. I remember that it was some sort of malware but I wasn't
sure what kind it was.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:22:29 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2018-02-01 18:53, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:19:24 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.

Nowhere near as easily. Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections. When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

Not to say it's a non-issue. Since threats get identified and patched
on Mac OS. Usually long before exploitation can occur.

OTOH, I've run for a decade with no malware protection on my Macs (Mine,
several at work, SO's, son's). No infections at all. As a precaution I
run "Malwarebytes" once every few months. Never hit a thing.

Nobody could run a Windows PC for more than a few months in ordinary use
w/o getting infected. Never mind a decade over several machines.

For several years I have run McAfee, Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes on my W10 systems. I don't recall McAfee ever declaring that
it's found anything. Super anti Spyware occasionally finds something.
Malwarebytes regularly gets all concerned about utility files such as
Driver Detective. But I have had nothing serious as far as I know.

The first thing anti malware does is prevent the installation of
malware. In my W days, infected files were found regularly (for low
frequency values of regular). These were for the most part files
e-mailed to me but occasionally in distros of one sort or another. I
was glad to have the A/V s/w on any PC. My virtual PC's on my Macs all
have AVG or Avast.

Finding actual installed malware was much rarer - a 1 in few years sort
of thing - but did happen.

After several years of running unprotected I found more than 120
unwanted items when I first installed Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes. I can't remember which package found most of it. That was some
years ago.
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Eric Stevens

On 02/02/2018 13:22, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2018-02-01 18:53, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:19:24 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2018-02-01 07:23, Andy wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as
a pc.

Nowhere near as easily.Â* Which is why, in the Mac world you hear about
"threats and vulnerabilities" but not many actual infections.Â* When they
occur, it is at a small scale, quickly identified, easily remedied and
permanently sealed.

Not to say it's a non-issue.Â* Since threats get identified and patched
on Mac OS.Â* Usually long before exploitation can occur.

OTOH, I've run for a decade with no malware protection on my Macs (Mine,
several at work, SO's, son's).Â* No infections at all.Â* As a precaution I
run "Malwarebytes" once every few months.Â* Never hit a thing.

Nobody could run a Windows PC for more than a few months in ordinary use
w/o getting infected.Â* Never mind a decade over several machines.

For several years I have run McAfee, Super anti Spyware and Malware
Bytes on my W10 systems. I don't recall McAfee ever declaring that
it's found anything. Super anti Spyware occasionally finds something.
Malwarebytes regularly gets all concerned about utility files such as
Driver Detective. But I have had nothing serious as far as I know.

The first thing anti malware does is prevent the installation of
malware.Â* In my W days, infected files were found regularly (for low
frequency values of regular).Â* These were for the most part files
e-mailed to me but occasionally in distros of one sort or another.Â* I
was glad to have the A/V s/w on any PC.Â* My virtual PC's on my Macs all
have AVG or Avast.

Finding actual installed malware was much rarer - a 1 in few years sort
of thing - but did happen.

I expect you are well aware that malware which is *already resident* on
a computer can fool an anti-virus software programme when it's installed
on a 'dirty' machine.

The user THINKS that his or her computer is 'protected' but the
anti-malware is providing totally FALSE indications.

Very sneaky, eh?!!!

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On 2018-02-02, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On 2 Feb 2018 21:54:14 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2018-02-02, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:13:56 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote:

The last Mac virus was in something like 1995 and was technically a
worm, not a virus. There are *non* macOS or OS X viruses. None.
Nada.

There has been malware infecting Mac OS since then but it requires a
user to download a pirated application throught torrents.

Those are trojans, and are not the same thing as a virus. So Lewis is
right.

Most likely.

He is right. There are ZERO macOS viruses in the wild, as has been the
case since its initial release in 2001.

I remember that it was some sort of malware but I wasn't sure what
kind it was.

No worries.

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"Doomsdrzej" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 02:02:21 -0500, "Andy" wrote:

Only a matter of time before Linux is targeted my friend a matter of time.
The mac camp thought the same about mac's and i phones

It's literally impossible to make malware for Linux that is
widespread. While the kernel is generally common to all distributions,
its version is not. Some might be running 2.6 to this day while others
insist on having the latest at 4.15. Besides, how the heck will you
infect a kernel anyway? Even if you were to get someone to enter their
password and agree to install whatever it is that you're trying to
force onto their system, there's no guarantee that it will
successfully manage to do anything of worth since people use a variety
of desktop environments as well. Truthfully, trying to infect Linux is
like trying to take down a tank using a frail midget armed only with a
brittle stick.

For everything else, the types of packages used across the board is
not the same either. Most use .deb, a lot use .rpm but others either
have their own way of packaging applications or compile them from
source. Good luck producing malware for such heterogeneous systems.

Hawk if maybe once in youre life time you actually gave me credit when i
post something that is right with out the negative comments and saying i got
the information from someone else i might stop going on about stuff like
this.
Have you ever in youre life said anything positive about someone OTHER then
you?


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"-= Hawk =-" wrote in message
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On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 07:23:34 -0500, "Andy" scribbled:

Say what you wish mac's can get viruses and malware just as easy as a pc.
It's a proven fact .
The fact is you and hawk and the other trolls cant stand that some one
other
then you is right.
Hawk would not give a person credit for being right unless it was HIM.
I really don't care what you or hawk or the other trolls think.

For someone who doesn't care you sure do ****ing go on a lot. I think
you care a great deal, Andy.

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Did someone strike a nerve HAWK?
Hurts to have things thrown in youre face dosen't it?


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On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 02:01:13 -0500, "Andy" scribbled:

Could have not said it better my self

STFU, Andy.
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More Hawk BS


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On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 00:43:30 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
scribbled:

In message Andy
wrote:
Say what you wish mac's can get viruses

Repeating the lie doesn't make it true, it is still a lie.

It's a proven fact .

Great. Cite a single incidence of a macOS or OS X virus. Just one. Go
ahead, we'll wait.

I really don't care what you or hawk or the other trolls think.

Your brain certainly seem to be impervious to facts.

A fact once came within 50 yards of Andy. It died screaming.
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