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"Java Jive" wrote in message news On 11/03/2018 10:11, HB wrote: (much snipped for brevity) I think either I or Vanguard must be mistaken. He seems to be implying that you were about to crunch the entire laptop with a sledge hammer, whereas I think your other half meant just the hard drive, assuming it was dead, did she not? This is a standard way of preventing personal data being retrieved from binned HDs. Personally, I use a lump hammer and a cold chisel on a concrete floor or step. Yes, that's what she meant. Destroy the HD. But is the HD really dead, or has it just got corrupted ... It's not dead as it brought up technical screens when tapping F8 or F2. It ran fine with the battery not charged and plugged in. On the back it just says Satellite followed by numbers. I don't know which numbers would be relevant. This is the 1st number. C655D (or 0) S5063 system unit. I would suggest going to Toshiba's site and comparing what you have with pictures of other models and their given designations one of which will probably be close to the above. When dealing with problems or buying spares, it is *nearly always important* to know exactly what it is that you have. This was given to us by a realtive. She said it was too slow and wanted a better faster newer laptop. What makes you think it's the battery since it worked fine without it as long as it was plugged in? I had this same "going blank" with the blinking "-" in the upper left hand corner before and they were desktops. I don't remember the exact figures anymore but to fix them, according to the shops where I lived at the time, wasn't worth what it would cost. An XP and a Vista both went the same way. Shops may be right in that it may not be commercially viable for them to make certain types of repairs, or for you to pay them to do so, but probably they also hope that they can persuade you to buy a replacement from their stock, while some repairs, a new battery is a good example, you can do yourself economically. This is true. They knew I would not buy from a small shop. I bought all our past computers from CompUSA before they went under. One from Best Buy and one from WalMart. I could usually get rid of problems like this by accessing safe mode and doing as System Recovery or Restore. But nothing led to safe mode. It wasn't dead when plugged in as info came up when I tapped F2 or F8 but not safe mode. Nothing that showed was familiar to me. A repair tech would know what the info meant but it was Chinese to me. So it didn't need a battery to run. I hate to toss it because it's like new. No one liked it because it was slow. I was hoping to do a system recovery but couldn't get into safe mode. I don't know any other way to do a system restore or recovery. Most PCs can do some primitive diagnostics from the BIOS. The BIOS is usually entered by pressing or holding down a particular key at a particular stage in the boot process - favourites are Del, and either F10 or one of the other function keys across the top of the keyboard. Again, going on to Toshiba's site and identifying the model number may help you find out which key is the magic one. Some laptops, such as Dells, can even perform full diagnostic tests by pressing a different magic key, IIRC F11, but my memory for such intermittently used information is getting a little dodgy these days, and anyway you have a Toshiba, not a Dell, so it's likely to be a different key, if full diagnostics are available at all. I'll do some Googling again and see if I find anything helpful. I'm sure a tech would have found those screens that came up helpful. To me they may as well have been in Chinese. You may find this page on my site, useful - although when written I mostly had desktops in mind, since writing it I've repaired some laptops as well, and while the details may be different, the principles are exactly the same: http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/PCHa...areFaults.html In particular, either ... If the laptop can boot from a USB stick, then download an Ubuntu or other Linux distro - make sure you get a suitable one, 32-bit or 64-bit as appropriate - install it on a 2GB or larger USB stick, depending on the size of the download, and see what messages Linux generates as it tries to boot the PC. This may give you some useful pointers to a hardware fault. If the PC boots from the stick, then you should see your hard disk partition(s) as clickable icons down the left hand side menu (in Ubuntu, other distros may be different, for example the icons may be on the desktop). Try this and come back to us with a description of what happens, particularly whether the PC boots at all, whether Linux lets see your HD at all, and even the contents of it. OK.. will do. .. you can mount the HD in a desktop, do that and diagnose it from there. If, as is likely with an old laptop, you have an IDE drive, you would need a 2.5"-to-3.5" HD connector/convertor and attach the other side of that to a spare IDE connector and power cable, whereas a SATA drive can be attached directly to a standard SATA cable, but you may need a convertor for the power cable - it all depends on the particular combination of laptop HD and desktop motherboard and power supply cables. Try this and do a chkdsk on the laptop's HD - you will probably have to go into Disk Manager and give the laptop HD a drive letter first. I wouldn't know where to start and if I want to devote the time it took to do it. I've had almost no experience with the inside hardware of computers. The HD doesn't look like anything I've seen in a DT PC. Just getting to the wires to get the DT PC to come forward is a major production... seriously. BTW, the HD is a Seagate 250 GBs - the other info is all in Chinese characters. Either way, you should be able to find out if the HD can be retrieved by repartitioning and reinstalling, and the first should also suggest whether and how much of the rest of the PC is functioning correctly. |
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"Wolf K" wrote in message ... -snip - What I meant was what we need the information that OP refers to but doesn't quote/specify. I'm still not sure whether the machine boots on external power with or without the battery. See Vanguard's post, which is an attempt to get clarity on that question. Let me clarify. I noticed the battery stopped charging maybe 3 weeks ago. The battery looked to be at zero for days. If the cursor was placed on the battery icon it read something like, "plugged in not charging". I figured the battery bit the dust but it worked fine so anyone who wanted to use it would plug it in, then turn it on. It would boot right up into windows and run fine. Then one everning I did the same but the screen was black with the blinking " - " in the upper left hand corner. I shut it off and started it tapping the F8 key and some window came up with tech info but no choices such as safe mode. One window came up and the choice was to do a memory check which said memory was OK. I'm not sure which F key brought up that window. That's as far as I got with it. You know the rest. |
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"Patrick" wrote in message news On 11/03/2018 20:04, Wolf K wrote: I know there are those who come here without adequate preparation *and continue that way*, but I think this guy is genuine, just perhaps has a little less experience than some of us/you; he seems to be doing his best to answer questions, even keeping calm and answering those in a tirade from Mayayana! Using a flamethrower is likely to drive away newcomers, and we need them, if the 'group isn't to just remain as the five or ten of us. (_I_ am not that knowledgeable - as my posts in the last two weeks or so must show! - about Windows 7 as such.) What I meant was what we need the information that OP refers to but doesn't quote/specify. I'm still not sure whether the machine boots on external power with or without the battery. See Vanguard's post, which is an attempt to get clarity on that question. From the numbers/details ascertained from the OP, the machine appears to be this; https://support.toshiba.com/support/...eeText=2743964 That sure looks like it. I'll check that site when I finish up here and have free time later tonight. |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... With the battery in, laptop won't boot. With the battery out, the laptop boots. That how it appears you describe the problem. Did I get your description wrong? If not, seems pretty simple diagnosis: it's the battery. It wont boot into windows either way. It turns on and will bring up text windows/screens by tapping F keys. That may be the misunderstanding. But tonight, afrer reinstalling the battery and HD, I hit F12 and a menu of some kind came up. There are 6 tabs. None give me the choice to get into Safe Mode. It seems to only be info on what's on the PC such as memory size to saving changes on exit. I have no idea what to do on any of these screens. They're called Main, Security, Power management, Advanced,Boot and Exit. Under the screen is a strip with choices such as F5 & 6 Change values (whatever they are). F9 Setup Defaults (meaningless to me.) How can this be helpful - any ideas? Doesn't the laptop's own boot screen offer a choice to hit a special key or key combo the restore the computer to factory-time setup? At the very top it says, "InsydeH20 Setup Utility." The Boot tab is mostly techie speak so I have no idea what to do with this. The choices a HDD/SD FDD CD/DVD LAN USB It says "Select the priority for booting the computer." So which one do I select? I don't have a CD or DVD for this laptop. None was given to me with the computer. https://support.toshiba.com/support/...tentId=2737864 A special-use partition is created on the HDD to perform the factory default installation. It is either an image to lay back on the HDD or an installer to perform a default install. If the laptop didn't come with recovery CDs, the manual probably mentioned how to create them after you received the prebuilt computer. How can I do anything useful with the info on this screen? |
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"Patrick" wrote in message news On 10/03/2018 07:15, HB wrote: When it rains it pours. The Toshiba LP W-7 64 went dark. It was fine, was shut off and when I hit the On button a few days later, just a black screen with a blinking " - " in the upper left-hand corner. Tapping the F8 is supposed to bring up Safe Mode (as per Google) but instead up came a screen to do a memory scan. After it finished I tried again and it came up with 6 tabs of technical info that's alien to me. None of the tabs were for Safe Mode. I had no way to know what to do on any of the screens. Anyone know how to get Safe Mode to come up on a Toshiba W-7? Where do I go from here? The LP actually gets little use and is like new. I hate to recycle it. I noticed a few days before that the battery wasn't charging. Since it was almost always used plugged in, it didn't matter. Does this look like the LapTop that you are refering to; https://support.toshiba.com/support/...eeText=2743964 This looks like it. Please see my reply to VanguardLH of 9:54 above. |
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HB wrote:
VanguardLH wrote ... With the battery in, laptop won't boot. With the battery out, the laptop boots. That how it appears you describe the problem. Did I get your description wrong? If not, seems pretty simple diagnosis: it's the battery. It wont boot into windows either way. It turns on and will bring up text windows/screens by tapping F keys. That may be the misunderstanding. Mentioned in another reply: remove the hard disk and see if the laptop will boot. It should get to its POST screen and then report there is no bootable media or OS not found. See if the *hardware* will boot up okay BEFORE trying to troubleshoot why Windows won't start. tonight, afrer reinstalling the battery and HD, I hit F12 and a menu of some kind came up. There are 6 tabs. None give me the choice to get into Safe Mode. It seems to only be info on what's on the PC such as memory size to saving changes on exit. They're called Main, Security, Power management, Advanced,Boot and Exit. You went into the BIOS config screens. Looks like the laptop is working. The problem is with Windows or the hard disk where it is installed. Could be Windows is fouled. Could be you have a bad hard drive. Insert the Windows install (or any other bootable disc) into the CD drive, reboot, and select to boot from the CD drive. Does that work? If saving what is on the hard disk is not critical (i.e., you're willing to start fresh), boot the laptop and use its recovery option to restore the laptop back to its factory-time state. See: https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=98082971 Doesn't the laptop's own boot screen offer a choice to hit a special key or key combo the restore the computer to factory-time setup? At the very top it says, "InsydeH20 Setup Utility." The Boot tab is mostly techie speak so I have no idea what to do with this. The choices a HDD/SD FDD CD/DVD LAN USB It says "Select the priority for booting the computer." So which one do I select? I don't have a CD or DVD for this laptop. None was given to me with the computer. You are already past the POST screen and the BIOS is asking which device you want to boot from. Windows is on the HDD. The list is the boot order for the device types. https://support.toshiba.com/support/...tentId=2737864 A special-use partition is created on the HDD to perform the factory default installation. It is either an image to lay back on the HDD or an installer to perform a default install. If the laptop didn't come with recovery CDs, the manual probably mentioned how to create them after you received the prebuilt computer. How can I do anything useful with the info on this screen? Step 4 is where you decide whether or not to perform a recovery (to lay a factory image onto the hard drive). |
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In message , Wolf K
writes: [] f8 or f2 access BIOS, _not_ the HD. Can you copy (by hand, I guss) and post the technical messages? That would be helpful. [] The F8 menu - things like safe mode, safe mode with networking, last good boot, etc. - _does_ come from the HD. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf _____ ___ |[]|_n_n_I_c |___||__|###|____) O-O--O-O+++--O-O |
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In message , HB writes:
[] kind came up. There are 6 tabs. None give me the choice to get into Safe Mode. It seems to only be info on what's on the PC such as memory size to saving changes on exit. I have no idea what to do on any of these screens. They're called Main, Security, Power management, Advanced,Boot and Exit. That's the BIOS - loads from ROM, even if no HD is fitted or it's dead. Under the screen is a strip with choices such as F5 & 6 Change values (whatever they are). F9 Setup Defaults (meaningless to me.) How can this be helpful - any ideas? You move around the menus with the arrow keys. To change the value of the parameter that is currently highlighted, you use F5/F6. F9 puts all such values back to their default (_usually_ this means a set of values which may not give the best performance the machine can achieve, but which are likely to work in most circumstances; its main function is for when the user thinks "I've changed something and the computer is now not working/behaving erratically, but I can't remember what I've changed"). Doesn't the laptop's own boot screen offer a choice to hit a special key or key combo the restore the computer to factory-time setup? I think the hard drive would have to be working - and able to boot - to get to that option. Not necessarily, but usually. At the very top it says, "InsydeH20 Setup Utility." The Boot tab is mostly techie speak so I have no idea what to do with this. The choices a HDD/SD FDD CD/DVD LAN USB It says "Select the priority for booting the computer." By fiddling with the keys, you can usually change the order of that list (there might be a "move up/move down" key pair); it determines where the computer looks for something bootable. The only ones you're likely to be able to use are HDD, CD, and USB. So which one do I select? I don't have a CD or DVD for this laptop. None was given to me with the computer. I presume it does have a CD _drive_ though. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf _____ ___ |[]|_n_n_I_c |___||__|###|____) O-O--O-O+++--O-O |
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In message , Wolf K
writes: [] b) BIOS can't access the HDD. There are several possible reasons for this. The worst case from your POV is that the HDD is toast. In that case, rescuing the laptop would entail opening up the laptop and replacing the HDD, not a simple job. A more favourable (cheaper) possibility is that the HDD connector is bad, and reseating it would fix the problem. Like changing the drive itself, that would entail opening up the laptop. Not necessarily: it depends whether the laptop has an HD hatch. A lot do, i. e. a panel which can be removed (sometimes needing a _few_ screws to be removed, granted) to access the HD, but not requiring the whole back to be taken off, which I agree is decidedly fiddly. (On this laptop - also a Toshiba - one of the screws for the HD flap is actually under the RAM flap, but if this is the case it should be fairly obvious.) You may be able to find out if BIOS can access the HDD. One of the Diagnostic screen should include s a test of the HDD. Look for anything that looks like it will test or scan the HDD, and run that. If that test or scan fails, BIOS cannot access the HDD. Though I think BIOS functions to _test_ the HD are rare. [] I don't have a CD or DVD for this laptop. None was given to me with the computer. You may be able to download-and-burn, or borrow, one that will get as far as the repair console. Only of use if the HD is working OK and just files have been corrupted, though. [] You could run a Linux from the CD/DVD drive, which would IMO would merely confirm that the HDD is bad. So, based on what you've described, IMO the HDD is the problem and you have to decide whether it's worth your money to have the laptop repaired. Best wishes, I'd say there's still a strong chance that it's just file corruption (or, if you're _very_ lucky, the HD has just come disconnected, by sliding around in its slot). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf _____ ___ |[]|_n_n_I_c |___||__|###|____) O-O--O-O+++--O-O |
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In message , HB writes:
[] I'm going by what I found on the net. None of the F keys brings up the screen I'm familiar with where Safe Mode is a choice. The online info says to tap F8 as the PC comes on but all that gets me is a black screen and a annoying beeping sound when a key is pressed. [] You will only get that screen if (a) the hard drive is working and (b) none of the files that the system needs to load to get as far as that screen have been corrupted. The beeping just means you've filled the keyboard buffer. _Does_ the poorly PC have a separate panel on the bottom that can be removed to get at the hard drive? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf _____ ___ |[]|_n_n_I_c |___||__|###|____) O-O--O-O+++--O-O |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , HB writes: [] I'm going by what I found on the net. None of the F keys brings up the screen I'm familiar with where Safe Mode is a choice. The online info says to tap F8 as the PC comes on but all that gets me is a black screen and a annoying beeping sound when a key is pressed. [] You will only get that screen if (a) the hard drive is working and (b) none of the files that the system needs to load to get as far as that screen have been corrupted. The beeping just means you've filled the keyboard buffer. _Does_ the poorly PC have a separate panel on the bottom that can be removed to get at the hard drive? If you have a digital camera take pics of screens and post on another site. -- Zaidy036 |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... HB wrote: VanguardLH wrote ... With the battery in, laptop won't boot. With the battery out, the laptop boots. That how it appears you describe the problem. Did I get your description wrong? If not, seems pretty simple diagnosis: it's the battery. It wont boot into windows either way. It turns on and will bring up text windows/screens by tapping F keys. That may be the misunderstanding. Mentioned in another reply: remove the hard disk and see if the laptop will boot. It should get to its POST screen and then report there is no bootable media or OS not found. See if the *hardware* will boot up okay BEFORE trying to troubleshoot why Windows won't start. tonight, afrer reinstalling the battery and HD, I hit F12 and a menu of some kind came up. There are 6 tabs. None give me the choice to get into Safe Mode. It seems to only be info on what's on the PC such as memory size to saving changes on exit. They're called Main, Security, Power management, Advanced,Boot and Exit. You went into the BIOS config screens. Looks like the laptop is working. The problem is with Windows or the hard disk where it is installed. Could be Windows is fouled. Could be you have a bad hard drive. Insert the Windows install (or any other bootable disc) into the CD drive, reboot, and select to boot from the CD drive. Does that work? If saving what is on the hard disk is not critical (i.e., you're willing to start fresh), boot the laptop and use its recovery option to restore the laptop back to its factory-time state. See: https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=98082971 Quote from step 4: "Press and hold down the 0 (zero) key on the keyboard while powering on the computer/tablet. Release it when the recovery warning screen appears." Doing this brings no screen up, just causes a loud rapid beeping. So can't get any further. Doesn't the laptop's own boot screen offer a choice to hit a special key or key combo the restore the computer to factory-time setup? No. At the very top it says, "InsydeH20 Setup Utility." The Boot tab is mostly techie speak so I have no idea what to do with this. The choices a HDD/SD FDD CD/DVD LAN USB It says "Select the priority for booting the computer." So which one do I select? I don't have a CD or DVD for this laptop. None was given to me with the computer. You are already past the POST screen and the BIOS is asking which device you want to boot from. Windows is on the HDD. The list is the boot order for the device types. When I chose HDD I got this: "A disk read error occured. Press Ctrl+alt+Del to restart." Did that and got the blank screen with the blinking - in the corner. BTW, thought the battery was supposedly dead, not charging, the PC still starts when unplugged. These screens appear and I can hear the HD come to life. So I don't think that info was correct it was showing before going dark. There is life in it. https://support.toshiba.com/support/...tentId=2737864 A special-use partition is created on the HDD to perform the factory default installation. It is either an image to lay back on the HDD or an installer to perform a default install. If the laptop didn't come with recovery CDs, the manual probably mentioned how to create them after you received the prebuilt computer. How can I do anything useful with the info on this screen? Step 4 is where you decide whether or not to perform a recovery (to lay a factory image onto the hard drive). Quote from step 4: "Press and hold down the 0 (zero) key on the keyboard while powering on the computer/tablet. Release it when the recovery warning screen appears." Doing this brings no recovery screen up, just causes a loud rapid beeping. So I can't get any further. I have no bootable emergency discs. They were lost in the move. Maybe it doesn't matter because they didn't work on the 2 PCs I had in the past with this same problem. A PC gets turned on and all that appeared would be a blank screen with the blinker. Now when I see this blinker in the upper left hand corner, I feel it's most likely the death of that PC. |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , HB writes: [] I'm going by what I found on the net. None of the F keys brings up the screen I'm familiar with where Safe Mode is a choice. The online info says to tap F8 as the PC comes on but all that gets me is a black screen and a annoying beeping sound when a key is pressed. [] You will only get that screen if (a) the hard drive is working and (b) none of the files that the system needs to load to get as far as that screen have been corrupted. The beeping just means you've filled the keyboard buffer. _Does_ the poorly PC have a separate panel on the bottom that can be removed to get at the hard drive? I already removed it and made sure it went back in OK. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf _____ ___ |[]|_n_n_I_c |___||__|###|____) O-O--O-O+++--O-O |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... I'd say there's still a strong chance that it's just file corruption (or, if you're _very_ lucky, the HD has just come disconnected, by sliding around in its slot). - Snips - It seats snugly. I can't see any way it could move short of falling off a roof. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf _____ ___ |[]|_n_n_I_c |___||__|###|____) O-O--O-O+++--O-O |
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HB wrote:
"Wolf K" wrote in message f8 or f2 access BIOS, _not_ the HD. Can you copy (by hand, I guss) and post the technical messages? That would be helpful. It says "InsydeH20setup utility" at the top of the screen. There are too many. 6 tabs on one screen. Text on each tab. None mention Safe Mode or system recovery. Example. On the Avanced tab it says: Boot Speed. Boot sound. USB Legacy Emulation. System Configuration. These are images that I found of what I'm seeing for the most part. They're the closest but not exactly the same. https://www.google.com/search?q=Insy...w=1408&bih=625 I'm going by what I found on the net. None of the F keys brings up the screen I'm familiar with where Safe Mode is a choice. The online info says to tap F8 as the PC comes on but all that gets me is a black screen and a annoying beeping sound when a key is pressed. InsydeH20 is a *BIOS* company. Pressing F2 or F8 or F12 early after the power comes on, caused you to drop into the BIOS. After the flashing "_" appears in the upper left hand corner of an otherwise black screen, is the OS booting. At that point, some of the older OSes would accept pressing of F8 to enter the Safe Mode OS menu. The timing of the key press is critical. On a machine with a BIOS which happens to use F8, you will end up in the BIOS if your timing is not perfect. And if you're late during the OS boot phase, the OS will (attempt) to boot in regular mode. On the modern OSes, you can use BCDEdit from the OS installer DVD or from the emergency boot CD, use the Command Prompt window there, to set a BCD option to cause the machine to stop at the Safe Mode screen. However, if the booting bits of your OS are corrupted, it might never even get a chance to consider your presses of F8, or your entreaty via the BCD, to stop at the Safe Mode screen. ******* As an example: 1) Boot the computer using the Windows 7 SP1 installer DVD. Select the troubleshooting options, rather than anything related to installation. That might require accepting the "language" screen when it comes up, but after that, there should be a button for Troubleshooting. This gives a Command Prompt window. 2) Look at Option 3 here. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...safe-mode.html bcdedit # review the details # sometimes a refusal to boot is # caused by a blank entry for a volume bcdedit /set {current} safeboot minimal # Add the entry to BCD bcdedit # Verify it looks correct 3) Type "exit" in Command Prompt or close the window, then allow the machine to boot to the hard drive. I don't know why you're heading to Safe Mode, what you have in mind, but that's an example of doing it. To remove it later, you can repeat the above approach from a Windows Administrator (elevated) Command Prompt window. bcdedit # review the details # Make sure the menu item is in "Current" bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot Some of the BCD options can also be neutered by "/set" to a benign value, and then you don't even need to deletevalue to switch them off. BCD also has options where it has Booleans, and True and False are synonyms for Yes and No. The nice thing about BCDEdit, is a hell of a lot of nice examples have been written and documented since Vista came out. And working with the BCD (from an emergency boot CD or from an installer DVD), no longer has to be "mysterious". The sevenforums site has recipes. Not all the recipes are "most useful", and the reason I selected the Option 3 from the above one, is a lot of what we do here is "emergency" edits, where the user can no longer use the regular OS to edit stuff. You can do offline edits (edit the BCD on other drives in the computer), using the /store option. bcdedit /store C:\boot\BCD /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True When you do stuff like that, it's up to you to use the "dir" command to actually verify the drive lettering, since drives get different lettering in virtually every environment you work in. That particular command there, happens to be a favorite of mine, because it adds a "WinXP style black boot menu" to OSes like Windows 10 :-) Just ignoring the two OS boot choices here, there *is* a row on the screen that says to "press F8", so this menu just happens to give you access to all the Safe Mode options. I want this window for the "press F8" option, not because the OS boot choices look pretty or something. This is how I get to Safe Mode. The black screen sits there for 30 seconds, giving plenty of time to make a single press of F8. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html bcdedit /store C:\boot\BCD /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True # booted from emergency CD bcdedit /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True # From regular OS cmd.exe HTH, Paul |
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