From Vista to Windows 10

I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

Thanks.

Alek wrote:

I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

Thanks.


To do an in-place upgrade would require upgrading first to Windows 7.
Probably more trouble than it's worth. I would recommend getting an
external hard drive, or some other media, to make backups of all his
files, and then (assuming his device meets the system requirements to
run Win10) doing a clean install of Windows 10.

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On 2017-04-27 5:01 PM, Alek wrote:
I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

Thanks.

He'll have to purchase it as Windows Vista never got a free upgrade to
Windows 10.


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On 04/27/2017 04:01 PM, Alek wrote:
I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

Thanks.




First off, all important data should be backed up to an external hard
drive no matter what. That should be done whether you upgrade or not.

I recently tried such an experiment and first upgraded a Vista machine
to Win7 and from there upgraded to Win10 and it all went well.
All data and apps were as they were orginally.


What I did however would not be recommended for a beginner as there can
be problems.


Before you do anything however, what are the machine specs?

If the hardware is not sufficient he may be better off just staying with
Vista until the day comes when he gets an all new machine.
Additionally is the problem of activation.

If he has an up to date virus checker he may find Vista sufficient for now.

On 4/27/2017 5:01 PM, Alek wrote:
I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

Thanks.

Since he is going to first have to purchase Windows 10 or if he can find
it Windows 7 and then upgrade to Windows 10; I would recomend that he
go a head and buy a new laptop. I beleive Windows 10 cost about
$130US, I have seen laptop probably much more powerfull than his Vista
Laptop for less that $300. It will come with Windows 10, a faster
processor, probably a larger disk, and the system will be design for the
faster components. It will probably come with USB ports, Wireless, and
possibly Bluetooth.

Once he has the new computer up and running, buy a USB disk enclosure
(Less the $25) for the drive on his Vista laptop and transfer his data
files to the new computer.

Once he has every thing he wants off of the laptop, now external drive,
he can reformat it and use it as a back up for his new laptop.

With the USB enclosure he should be able to do it for less than $330.

Windows has some speech capability built in Cortina, I don't know the
extent as I have never used them.


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On 27/04/2017 22:01, Alek wrote:
I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

Is there anything you still don't know about your son-in-law? Has he
got any mistresses? Is he a pussy grabber?


What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)
The clearest path is to go to his local shop (or go online) and buy a
new Windows 10 (Home or Professional) license or a DVD. This will
entitle him to install on his obsolete machine. I am using the word
obsolete because it is unlikely his current hardware is suitable to run
Windows 10. He should buy a new machine from DELL or HP and he doesn't
need to worry about Windows 10 because these machines come with Windows
pre-installed.


Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

This is mute point because upgrading doesn't apply. Only a clean
install will work so YES the files and Applications will be wiped clean
on his obsolete machine unless he buys a new machine and keep the old
one as a spare just in case!!!

Thanks.

You're welcome.


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On 4/27/2017 5:58 PM, philo wrote:
I recently tried such an experiment and first upgraded a Vista machine
to Win7 and from there upgraded to Win10 and it all went well.
All data and apps were as they were orginallyThe programs work under Windows 10 may only be for specific programs.
At a minimum any programs you have on the old laptop will probably have
to be upgraded to the Windows 10 version

There may be some of the programs that can not be upgraded and will not
run on Windows 10.





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On 04/27/2017 09:23 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 4/27/2017 5:58 PM, philo wrote:
I recently tried such an experiment and first upgraded a Vista machine
to Win7 and from there upgraded to Win10 and it all went well.
All data and apps were as they were orginallyThe programs work under
Windows 10 may only be for specific programs.
At a minimum any programs you have on the old laptop will probably have
to be upgraded to the Windows 10 version

There may be some of the programs that can not be upgraded and will not
run on Windows 10.







I did a number of Win7 to Win10 upgrades and the only problem I had was
one machine had Google Earth. It had to be uninstalled before the
upgrade would commence. Once Win10 was installed I found out the
recommenced way to use Google Earth is from within the Chrome browser
and indeed that worked.


Some folks say they have been able to reinstall the Google Earth
application but I did not try as per Google Earth the application is for
up and including Win7 only.


BTW: I did an experiment on an XP machine and incrementally upgraded to
Win10 . The machine was a spare and nothing critical was on it, but when
I was done Win10 worked fine as well as the original applications.

That said, for most people it would be way more trouble than it was worth .

On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:01:27 -0400, Alek
wrote:

I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Fresh install of Windows 10.

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?

Not if you back them up first which you should have done already.

You can save a lot of work by doing such things as backing up and
restoring your browser's profile directory.

Thanks.

On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:01:27 -0400, Alek
wrote:

I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?



Several points:

1. It is not possible to upgrade from Vista to 10. A clean upgrade is
required.

2. He may need Windows 10 hardware drivers that are not available for
his old machine.

3. Even if drivers are available, there's a good chance that such an
old computer will nit run Windows 10 with acceptable performance.

4. So, considering all of the above, he probably best off buying a new
computer that comes with Windows 10.

And by the way, your question "Will installing W10 wipe out of his
files?" suggests that he does back them up to external media on a
regular basis. If that's the case, he's been playing with fire. It is
always possible that a hard drive crash, user error, nearby lightning
strike, virus attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the loss
of everything on your drive. As has often been said, it's not a matter
of whether you will have such a problem, but when.

On 04/28/2017 09:50 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:01:27 -0400, Alek
wrote:

I just found out the my son-in-law is still running Vista on his laptop!

What is the path for him to take to get Windows 10. (He's deaf, if
that's a consideration.)

Will installing W10 wipe out of his files?



Several points:

1. It is not possible to upgrade from Vista to 10. A clean upgrade is
required.



Most practical thing to do, certainly but not an /absolute/ requirement.

I took a Vista Business machine and upgraded it to Win7 Pro and from
there upgraded to Win10 Pro.

Since I activated the Win7 installation, when I did the upgrade to Win10
Pro, I was happy to see that it was activated.


Here are the upgrade possibilities:


Windows Vista Home Basic (SP1, SP2) to Windows 7 Home Basic, Home
Premium and Ultimate

Windows Vista Home Premium (SP1, SP2) to Windows 7 Home Premium and
Ultimate
Windows Vista Business (SP1, SP2) to Windows 7 Professional,
Enterprise and Ultimate
Windows Vista Enterprise (SP1, SP2) to Windows 7 Enterprise
Windows Vista Ultimate (SP1, SP2) to Windows 7 Ultimate



Considering that a legal version of Win7 is available on eBay for $20 or
so and the upgrade to Win10 is still free...this /might/ be a
consideration. As a matter of fact, since Win7 is still supported, the
OP may just want to keep the machine at Win7


That said, the OP never bothered to get back with the specs of the
machine so I doubt his question was a serious one.

Some Vista machines have very good specs. Recently I had in my workshop
several quad core machines with 8 gigs of RAM that originally had Vista
installed. They ran Win10 quite well.

OTOH: Some of those older AMD cpus are not capable of running any
version of Window past Win7.
(XP-3800 could not while the XP-5000 was OK)

On 28/04/2017 16:15, philo wrote:




I took a Vista Business machine and upgraded it to Win7 Pro and from
there upgraded to Win10 Pro.



You keep banging on about upgrading to Windows 7. How is this done if
you don't have a valid license for Windows 7? Upgrade has never been
free so can you just **** off.

It looks like you don't have time factor to worry about when doing all
these upgrades. Trump should employ slaves like you to replace cheap
Mexicans!!!!




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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:50:35 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Windows has some speech capability built in Cortina, I don't know
the extent as I have never used them.

Not much help for this deaf user!

philo wrote in news
I did a number of Win7 to Win10 upgrades and the only problem I had
was one machine had Google Earth. It had to be uninstalled before the
upgrade would commence. Once Win10 was installed I found out the
recommenced way to use Google Earth is from within the Chrome browser
and indeed that worked.


Some folks say they have been able to reinstall the Google Earth
application but I did not try as per Google Earth the application is
for up and including Win7 only.

I would like to know where you saw that message. I have been running Google
Earth on my Win10 machine since back when it was Win7 without any problems.
As a matter of fact, I don't think I have ever run it from withing a
browser, it has always been a stand alone app on my system.

And talking about if a system is capable, I want to put in a little plug
about over building. I built my current system in 2013, knowing it will
probably be the last system I build. Up till then I have always
purchased/built systems that were usually at least one generation back as
far as cpus were concerned. With thus system I have an AMD A10-5800
processor that has always met my needs, including having three simultaneous
video conversions going on at once without killing the system. On the
theory that one can never have too much memory, I put in 24gb of DDR3
memory, most of which still goes unused. I may use some for a RAM drive one
of these days just to see what it would be like. It is nice when one is
running more than one virtual machine at the same time. I have an SSD for
my system drive, and about 8tb of hard disks spinning, four of which is
used as a 2tb Raid 1 drive. Throw in a couple of nice wide screen LCD
monitors and two DVD writers, and I'm good for more than the forseeable
future.

On 4/28/2017 3:01 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:50:35 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Windows has some speech capability built in Cortina, I don't know
the extent as I have never used them.

Not much help for this deaf user!


You are right a senile moment. ;-)

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