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30 second freeze after startup
System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can
open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don |
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30 second freeze after startup
I don't think that 120 seconds is an inordinate amount of time for Windows
to get going, esp. e.g. on an aged though well maintained system. I recently spent time looking at services on my D935 based machine, and got rid of a few things - Quicktime rubbish / PowerDVD / Norton PQ* services, and a few of other things in registry "run" and "startup" and it still takes almost 1 and a 1/2 minutes for XP to finish booting up, and get going. ....I have a range of anti-malware progs. loading at boot - these take a little while. Zonalarm firewall takes it's time ! I've said this before, If YOU had as much to to as XP has to do, during startup - YOU'd take a couple of minutes as well. ....just leave the machine alone for 30 seconds after the timer bottle had stopped spinning, after boot up ! regards, Richard "Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don |
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30 second freeze after startup
I don't think that 120 seconds is an inordinate amount of time for Windows
to get going, esp. e.g. even on an aged / well maintained system. I recently spent time looking at services on my D935 based machine, and got rid of a few things - Quicktime rubbish / PowerDVD / Norton PQ* services, and a few other things in registry "run" and also "startup" and it still takes almost 1 and a 1/2 minutes for my XP to finish booting up, and get going. ....I have a range of anti-malware progs. loading at boot - these take a little while. Zonalarm firewall takes it's time ! I've said this before, If YOU had as much to Do as XP has to do, during startup - YOU'd take a couple of minutes as well ! ....just leave the machine alone for 30 seconds after the timer bottle haS stopped spinning, after boot up ! regards, Richard "Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don |
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I do run Zone Alarm Pro and Norton Antivirus, but turning them off
doesn't remove the problem. There's definitely something going on in the back-ground that steals all the clock cycles for 30 seconds or more. I don't think that 120 seconds is an inordinate amount of time for Windows to get going, esp. e.g. even on an aged / well maintained system. I recently spent time looking at services on my D935 based machine, and got rid of a few things - Quicktime rubbish / PowerDVD / Norton PQ* services, and a few other things in registry "run" and also "startup" and it still takes almost 1 and a 1/2 minutes for my XP to finish booting up, and get going. ...I have a range of anti-malware progs. loading at boot - these take a little while. Zonalarm firewall takes it's time ! I've said this before, If YOU had as much to Do as XP has to do, during startup - YOU'd take a couple of minutes as well ! ...just leave the machine alone for 30 seconds after the timer bottle haS stopped spinning, after boot up ! regards, Richard "Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don |
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30 second freeze after startup
SO WHAT !!!!!!
If you're talking about the 30 seconds or so after boot up seems to have finished, ....after the timer bottle disappears, then, I consider that's normal ! ...hard disk light is on for roughly that amount of time, ....WINDOWS IS STILL STARTING UP. Just LEAVE THE MACHINE ALONE for half a minute, let it settle down. I suspect that YOU ARE FAR TOO IMPATIENT ! You're sure gonna to do a lot with those 30 seconds, if you manage to recover them, .... anyway ??? regards, Richard "Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... I do run Zone Alarm Pro and Norton Antivirus, but turning them off doesn't remove the problem. There's definitely something going on in the back-ground that steals all the clock cycles for 30 seconds or more. I don't think that 120 seconds is an inordinate amount of time for Windows to get going, esp. e.g. even on an aged / well maintained system. I recently spent time looking at services on my D935 based machine, and got rid of a few things - Quicktime rubbish / PowerDVD / Norton PQ* services, and a few other things in registry "run" and also "startup" and it still takes almost 1 and a 1/2 minutes for my XP to finish booting up, and get going. ...I have a range of anti-malware progs. loading at boot - these take a little while. Zonalarm firewall takes it's time ! I've said this before, If YOU had as much to Do as XP has to do, during startup - YOU'd take a couple of minutes as well ! ...just leave the machine alone for 30 seconds after the timer bottle haS stopped spinning, after boot up ! regards, Richard "Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don |
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30 second freeze after startup
"Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don Just out of curiosity did you time it or does it just "seem" like 30 seconds? If you have any networked drives, or external media plugged in, somtimes XP will look for mapped network drives or access external media. DVDs left inserted can cause delays also. If you are using indexed searching, maybe that kicks in at startup also. |
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30 second freeze after startup
dobey said the following on 11/1/2007 12:46 AM:
"Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don Just out of curiosity did you time it or does it just "seem" like 30 seconds? If you have any networked drives, or external media plugged in, somtimes XP will look for mapped network drives or access external media. DVDs left inserted can cause delays also. If you are using indexed searching, maybe that kicks in at startup also. I didn't actually time it. Could be more like 15 or 20 seconds. But I did measure he Boot time using MS Bootvis. Yesterday during this freeze period I was dragging the MSConfig Window around the screen and it wasn't refreshing completely. It would leave a trail of MSConfig windows all over the screen. I filled he entire screen with MSConfig windows just like when you win at Solitaire. When it finally finished whatever was going on, the screen refreshed back to normal. MSConfig had started up early during he boot process because changes had been made. So I guess the system really isn't frozen either. It's just running really slow while something takes all the processor clock cycles. |
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"Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... snip I didn't actually time it. Could be more like 15 or 20 seconds. But I did measure he Boot time using MS Bootvis. Yesterday during this freeze period I was dragging the MSConfig Window around the screen and it wasn't refreshing completely. It would leave a trail of MSConfig windows all over the screen. I filled he entire screen with MSConfig windows just like when you win at Solitaire. When it finally finished whatever was going on, the screen refreshed back to normal. MSConfig had started up early during he boot process because changes had been made. So I guess the system really isn't frozen either. It's just running really slow while something takes all the processor clock cycles. Do you happen to have AV / Anti spyware running some kind of check at start up. If you left these programs at default, often they will do a startup check. One other option may be to use standby mode instead of shut down. My sytem comes up very quick, and to all intents and purposes the machine is off. I expect it uses a few watts, but not many. Or, you could just take a lateral approach and turn on the compter before you sit down and by the time you have left the room and returned or stopped to do something else, the PC will be ready. What you describe is pretty normal behaviour. It just depends on "what else" XP runs when the PC starts. |
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30 second freeze after startup
"Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. ... On my system, after everything else has happened, ZoneAlarm takes an additional period (never timed it, but 30 sec is about order-of-magnitude right). Elsewhere, you mention turning ZoneAlarm (and Norton, which you seem to feel is also necessary) off, but I'm dubious you can ever really turn these things totally off short of deinstallation. And if you have a high-speed connection, you might want to consider the wisdom of turning your protection off unless you detach physically from your gateway before booting. |
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30 second freeze after startup
Not unusual; nor an excessively long boot time. Everything is getting
displayed on the screen and it -looks- like it's ready to go before it really is, that's all. ntregopt is about the only thing I can think of that might make things -look- cleaner to you, but it won't change the total time it takes to boot. ntregopt simply reorganizes a few pieces of the registry sequence but Windows will do the same thing after enough boots, just not as quick. Pop` Don in San Antonio wrote: System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. Bootup prior to selecting a program to run, takes 120+ seconds and the freeze happens after that. System is a new ASUS M2NPV-VP motherboard with AMD 3800+ dual processor and 2 Gig of Kingston Ram. I've used Bootvis and MSConfig to identify the process running during this period but can't figure out what's going on. Turning off everything under Startup in MSConfig does not help. Turning off all services seems to speed thing up, but I can't isolate the service or services slowing things down. I'm not sure services are the real problem anyway. Any suggestions on what else check would be appreciated. Don |
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30 second freeze after startup
Anthony Buckland said the following on 11/1/2007 12:13 PM:
"Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... System freezes for 30 seconds or more immediately after startup. I can open the Startmenu and select a program but then nothing happens for about 30 seconds. After that, the program loads normally. ... On my system, after everything else has happened, ZoneAlarm takes an additional period (never timed it, but 30 sec is about order-of-magnitude right). Elsewhere, you mention turning ZoneAlarm (and Norton, which you seem to feel is also necessary) off, but I'm dubious you can ever really turn these things totally off short of deinstallation. And if you have a high-speed connection, you might want to consider the wisdom of turning your protection off unless you detach physically from your gateway before booting. I run Zone Alarm Pro and Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition 8. I connect to the internet through a Linksys router connected to a cable modem. One can never be too safe. It does seem that vsmon.exe (Norton Antivirus) is taking about 30 seconds to do something. It shows up as taking 50% of the CPU processing time. Not sure what that means with a dual processor system. Anyway, it seems to me the best approach here is to use sleep mode. My restart time from sleep mode is about 3 seconds. It takes me more time to type in my password than it does to restart. |
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30 second freeze after startup
dobey said the following on 11/1/2007 11:15 AM:
"Don in San Antonio" wrote in message ... snip I didn't actually time it. Could be more like 15 or 20 seconds. But I did measure he Boot time using MS Bootvis. Yesterday during this freeze period I was dragging the MSConfig Window around the screen and it wasn't refreshing completely. It would leave a trail of MSConfig windows all over the screen. I filled he entire screen with MSConfig windows just like when you win at Solitaire. When it finally finished whatever was going on, the screen refreshed back to normal. MSConfig had started up early during he boot process because changes had been made. So I guess the system really isn't frozen either. It's just running really slow while something takes all the processor clock cycles. Do you happen to have AV / Anti spyware running some kind of check at start up. If you left these programs at default, often they will do a startup check. One other option may be to use standby mode instead of shut down. My sytem comes up very quick, and to all intents and purposes the machine is off. I expect it uses a few watts, but not many. Or, you could just take a lateral approach and turn on the compter before you sit down and by the time you have left the room and returned or stopped to do something else, the PC will be ready. What you describe is pretty normal behaviour. It just depends on "what else" XP runs when the PC starts. I think you have the answer. I'll just go get a cup of coffee and make a head call while the system boots. From then on I'll just use sleep mode. The system restarts from sleep mode in about 3 seconds. Thanks for taking the time to answer my initial post. Don Don |
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30 second freeze after startup
I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 Lap top and although I have never timed
it, I would say it takes about two minutes from pressing the power on button until it is fully loaded and ready to go. Windows XP Home Edition with all service packs. Two minutes seems reasonable to me given all that is being mobilized. You could always just leave your computer on if two minutes is an eternity to you. |
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I suspect he won't listen, as seems indicated throughout this thread !
....the well 'preened', or well 'pruned' if you prefer, services plus lots of "goodies" I've got running on my D935 based machine, elongates my boot-up time to almost two minutes, ...and I think it's worth every second !!!!! !! regards, Richard "apistomaster" wrote in message oups.com... I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 Lap top and although I have never timed it, I would say it takes about two minutes from pressing the power on button until it is fully loaded and ready to go. Windows XP Home Edition with all service packs. Two minutes seems reasonable to me given all that is being mobilized. You could always just leave your computer on if two minutes is an eternity to you. |
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I just had to actually time how long it takes for my computer and
wireless periferals to all come on line and it is actually 80 seconds(just seemed longer). I am only using 23% of my available HD memory. I 'm definitely not a "power user." Albert Einstein was sure right when he proved that time is relative. |
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