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Old September 8th 18, 10:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

I keep hearing people saying to upgrade to Windows7 rather than keep
using XP. Supposedly W7 was the last decent version of Windows.

I thought about giving it a try. I have never used anything newer than
XP, and there is no way in hell that I'd want Win10 or even 8.x. But I
am finding that original CDs for Win7 cost more than a new installer for
Win10. I looked on Ebay and was shocked at the prices. I think it costs
more than it did when it was sold in trhe stores.

I can buy a used working computer on ebay (that will run W7) for as
little as $25 or in the $40 to $60 range is more common, but a Win7 CD
costs $125 and up. (And then they wonder why people pirate software).

I refuse to pay that much for "obsolete" software.

And yea, I know I could buy a computer with W7 pre installed on ebay,
and that is just not something I am willing to risk. I have never gotten
a virus online, but years ago, I bought a computer from ebay with XP pre
installed and found it to contain one of the most destructive viruses
ever made. Yea, I took action against the seller, got a refund and did
not have to return the computer, but that was AFTER that virus had
gotten into my own computer and done considerable damage.

So, any computers I buy on ebay get their drives wiped clean now, as
soon as they are in my hands.

Anyhow, is there any place to buy a LEGAL copy of W7 that is reasonably
priced? (Which to me means around $35 or less). And that of course would
include the registration number.


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Old September 8th 18, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

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| Anyhow, is there any place to buy a LEGAL copy of W7 that is reasonably
| priced? (Which to me means around $35 or less). And that of course would
| include the registration number.
|
Not likely. $100+ is typical for OEM. Win7 is
also a hot commodity because, as you said, it's widely
regarded as the last salveageable version. There
are two basic options:

* Build a computer and pay for the OEM disk. Drawback:
Your license will be rejected on different hardware. you
might want to buy an extra motherboard and CPU if they're
not too expensive because otherwise, if you lose either,
you lose Windows.

* Buy the used computer and consider getting backup
motherboard of the same model, becausde that will also
be OEM.

Microsoft mainly does their licensing limitation
based on motherboard. So whatever computer
you have should activate as long as you keep
the same motherboard. Drawback: In most cases
with OEM the activation key is embedded in
the motherboard. so if the computer hardware
goes then you chance of keeping Windows would
depend on being able to get replacement parts from
the OEM.

Either way, it's a risk to use OEM. But the other
option is to spend about $100 more for a full license,
and with that there's no guarantee you'll be able to
get compatible hardware down the road when your
current computer goes.


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Old September 8th 18, 11:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 08/09/2018 22:14, wrote:
I keep hearing people saying to upgrade to Windows7 rather than keep
using XP.


That's a silly advice whoever gave it to you.

Windows XP users should wipe their Hard disks (like they wipe their
bum!!!!!!!!) and install a Linux Operating system. It will run alright
on your archaic machine.

If you want to keep running Windows then your best option is to buy a
new machine from top brand OEMs like DELL or HP who will sell you a
Windows 10 machine. We have been using Windows 10 since it was first
released in 2015 and we love it. Our productivity has gone up
dramatically and all new Apps run just fine on it.

It's time to move on and start using a descent machine and do something
useful.

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Old September 9th 18, 08:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

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And yea, I know I could buy a computer with W7 pre installed on ebay,
and that is just not something I am willing to risk. I have never gotten
a virus online, but years ago, I bought a computer from ebay with XP pre
installed and found it to contain one of the most destructive viruses
ever made. Yea, I took action against the seller, got a refund and did
not have to return the computer, but that was AFTER that virus had
gotten into my own computer and done considerable damage.

So, any computers I buy on ebay get their drives wiped clean now, as
soon as they are in my hands.


Sorry to hear about your bad luck in that respect.

I've been fortunate in the computers I've bought with 7 preinstalled -
five or six, I think, so far. (Not all for me!) I've always bought from
a dealer or refurbisher, never a private individual; I don't know if
that makes any difference, though I think it's always been a "clean" or
"cleaned" Windows, so I think reinstalled, whereas if from a private
seller it might not be. Some have died, but none have had any malware
that I know of; the Windows occasionally has not been set up correctly,
but only in the respect of not having the screen resolution set to the
native resolution (all have been laptops, of various sizes), or not
having the drivers for some of the more obscure hardware in them, which
I've always been able to get from the manufacturer's website.

You could get such a machine, and then boot it from one of the
standalone malware-scanners that can be put on a bootable disc
(Kaspersky used I think to be the one most often mentioned here), before
ever booting it in its own right. (Finding out from the web/YouTube what
key[s] to press to make it boot from CD/DVD.)

I would agree that 7 seems to be the last rescuable version. (Make sure
it's SP1, of course.) Or possibly 8.1, but I see no advantage in going
for that, and I dislike its default user interface - sure, Classic Shell
or the other one will put it back, but if you're going to do that why
bother (unless it's all you can find, which I don't think is the case
currently).

Anyhow, is there any place to buy a LEGAL copy of W7 that is reasonably
priced? (Which to me means around $35 or less). And that of course would
include the registration number.

(From what others have said, it appears not. I think valid _discs_ can
be downloaded - even from Microsoft, via the Heidoc - or obtained fairly
easily; but it's the key that you'd pay for.)

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Old September 9th 18, 05:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

On 9/8/2018 5:14 PM, wrote:
I keep hearing people saying to upgrade to Windows7 rather than keep
using XP. Supposedly W7 was the last decent version of Windows.

I thought about giving it a try. I have never used anything newer than
XP, and there is no way in hell that I'd want Win10 or even 8.x. But I
am finding that original CDs for Win7 cost more than a new installer for
Win10. I looked on Ebay and was shocked at the prices. I think it costs
more than it did when it was sold in trhe stores.

I can buy a used working computer on ebay (that will run W7) for as
little as $25 or in the $40 to $60 range is more common, but a Win7 CD
costs $125 and up. (And then they wonder why people pirate software).

I refuse to pay that much for "obsolete" software.

And yea, I know I could buy a computer with W7 pre installed on ebay,
and that is just not something I am willing to risk. I have never gotten
a virus online, but years ago, I bought a computer from ebay with XP pre
installed and found it to contain one of the most destructive viruses
ever made. Yea, I took action against the seller, got a refund and did
not have to return the computer, but that was AFTER that virus had
gotten into my own computer and done considerable damage.

So, any computers I buy on ebay get their drives wiped clean now, as
soon as they are in my hands.

Anyhow, is there any place to buy a LEGAL copy of W7 that is reasonably
priced? (Which to me means around $35 or less). And that of course would
include the registration number.




just-me:

You must not be looking very hard on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-W...item33ea4a5296

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-P...o/163221974514

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-D...D/322482378735

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Old September 9th 18, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

On 09/09/2018 17:14, John Dulak wrote:

You must not be looking very hard on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-W...item33ea4a5296

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-P...o/163221974514

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-D...D/322482378735


Fine as installation media, but I wouldn't expect the product keys to
authenticate.
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Old September 9th 18, 06:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

On 09/09/2018 12:28 PM, Java Jive wrote:
On 09/09/2018 17:14, John Dulak wrote:

You must not be looking very hard on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-W...item33ea4a5296

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-P...o/163221974514

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-D...D/322482378735



Fine as installation media, but I wouldn't expect the product keys to
authenticate.


Since you can download the media for free from Microsoft, legit, the
media is of no value, it's a license you need to make it work.

The last one states "licenseless" if that's a valid word.
I don't like the somewhat vague wording on the first, it talks about OEM
with a drive (if you pay extra and want it). Sounds like it was a
working Win 7 installed on some PC. Might be licensed then but is it now?

I've seen these, and remember the saying, "if it's too good to be true,
it probably isn't true". But then you might luck out. Hell I've tossed
$17 at worst things, so it might be worth the try.

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Old September 10th 18, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 08:56:25 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

(From what others have said, it appears not. I think valid _discs_ can
be downloaded - even from Microsoft, via the Heidoc - or obtained fairly
easily; but it's the key that you'd pay for.)


What is Heidoc?

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Old September 12th 18, 09:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Where to get a legal copy of Windows 7

FredW wrote in
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:37:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 08:56:25 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

(From what others have said, it appears not. I think valid _discs_
can be downloaded - even from Microsoft, via the Heidoc - or obtained
fairly easily; but it's the key that you'd pay for.)


What is Heidoc?


- Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...t/67-microsoft
-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool


Been there and searched other places for an explanation of why Heidoc is
needed. Seems that MSFT does provide for IT managers a link for op
systems and products like Office, of all versions in both bit
configurations. But it sounds like the links are hard to find even for
IT personnel, and IIRC, the links are harder and harder to find now that
Digital River is kaput. Do these links keep changing? Does MSFT make the
links/programs hard to find on purpose?

Just try to find the full install of anything Windows Live. Good luck.

Why does Heidoc generate different URLs? Why do they keep changing? Is
it because they are following MSFT links that keep changing. This is
what I haven't been able to find an explanation for.

Mike
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Old September 13th 18, 01:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mike wrote:
FredW wrote in
:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:37:11 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 08:56:25 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

(From what others have said, it appears not. I think valid _discs_
can be downloaded - even from Microsoft, via the Heidoc - or obtained
fairly easily; but it's the key that you'd pay for.)
What is Heidoc?

- Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...t/67-microsoft
-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool


Been there and searched other places for an explanation of why Heidoc is
needed. Seems that MSFT does provide for IT managers a link for op
systems and products like Office, of all versions in both bit
configurations. But it sounds like the links are hard to find even for
IT personnel, and IIRC, the links are harder and harder to find now that
Digital River is kaput. Do these links keep changing? Does MSFT make the
links/programs hard to find on purpose?

Just try to find the full install of anything Windows Live. Good luck.

Why does Heidoc generate different URLs? Why do they keep changing? Is
it because they are following MSFT links that keep changing. This is
what I haven't been able to find an explanation for.

Mike


Microsoft uses "dynamic downloads" for some of its products.

The purpose of this, is so people cannot post a URL and everyone
and his dog uses the URL. Since the URL is only supposed to be
created on the presentation of a Retail key, making the folder
only last for 24 hours on the server is a perfect way to
limit "runaway downloading".

DigitalRiver was different, as the links there were fixed
links. You could quote them, and they'd be good a month
from now.

When I bought a couple of copies of Windows 8 for
$39.95 each from the MicrosoftStore, those were dynamic
links too. Except you could use your order number,
to have dynamic links created a second time if you
wanted.

Heidoc doesn't make the links. It works the levers
on some TechBench web page, to fool the web page
into thinking the user was authentic, and then
the web server makes a dynamic link and a folder
with the goods in it. For some reason, Internet
Explorer is involved, and perhaps ActiveX or
something else. The author of the method is
probably "too bashful" to explain it :-)
If you know what I mean. And the method has changed
since Microsoft broke the ability to get Win7 ISOs
and some version of Office.

Paul
 




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