Can't disable mouse wake from sleep.

Can't disable mouse wake from sleep.

I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Win 10 v1803
Logitech TK-820 Keyboard with built-in touchpad
Logitech M510 Mouse
Cirque GB410 Serial Touchpad

The M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes
the system when I don't want to.
I want to disable ONLY the M510 wake from sleep.

I've been using the Cirque touchpad for years with
win7 and ancient drivers that no longer work.
Can't find any win10-workable drivers, so Scroll doesn't work.

The Touchpad in the TK-820 is ergonomically UNUSABLE.
Has no buttons. You push the whole touchpad to click.
It's virtually impossible to click the touchpad
without moving the cursor.
I use the Cirque or M510 mouse buttons in conjunction with
TK-820 pad. That sorta works, but I need to disable wake on mouse.

The checkboxes in mouse device properties do absolutely
nothing.

Powercfg shows all still enabled.

If I disable everything mouse related using powercfg,
the result is:

C:\Windows\system32powercfg -devicequery wake_armed
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard
HID Keyboard Device
Intel(R) 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard (001)

The mouse still wakes from sleep.

If I disable wake for ANY of the three keyboard entries,
NOTHING will wake the computer, not even the Cirque
serial touchpad. Have to press the power button to get
it back.

Ideas on how I can disable only the one mouse?

The only option I can think of is to take the keyboard
apart and bring out the click switch connection
and place a switch where I can reach it with my
left hand.

Mike wrote:

Can't disable mouse wake from sleep.

I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Win 10 v1803
Logitech TK-820 Keyboard with built-in touchpad
Logitech M510 Mouse
Cirque GB410 Serial Touchpad

The M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes
the system when I don't want to.
I want to disable ONLY the M510 wake from sleep.

I've been using the Cirque touchpad for years with
win7 and ancient drivers that no longer work.
Can't find any win10-workable drivers, so Scroll doesn't work.

The Touchpad in the TK-820 is ergonomically UNUSABLE.
Has no buttons. You push the whole touchpad to click.
It's virtually impossible to click the touchpad
without moving the cursor.
I use the Cirque or M510 mouse buttons in conjunction with
TK-820 pad. That sorta works, but I need to disable wake on mouse.

The checkboxes in mouse device properties do absolutely
nothing.

Powercfg shows all still enabled.

If I disable everything mouse related using powercfg,
the result is:

C:\Windows\system32powercfg -devicequery wake_armed
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard
HID Keyboard Device
Intel(R) 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard (001)

The mouse still wakes from sleep.

If I disable wake for ANY of the three keyboard entries,
NOTHING will wake the computer, not even the Cirque
serial touchpad. Have to press the power button to get
it back.

Ideas on how I can disable only the one mouse?

The only option I can think of is to take the keyboard
apart and bring out the click switch connection
and place a switch where I can reach it with my
left hand.

Is that mouse wireless ?

So the Unifying Receiver is waking the system ?
And not the mouse ?

I don't have any wireless HID stuff to know
what Device Manager looks like for those. If you
changed the Unifying Receiver, it might be all
or nothing for all I know.

Paul

On 10/14/2018 5:57 PM, Paul wrote:
Mike wrote:

The [Logitech] M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes the
system when I don't want to... I want to disable ONLY the M510
wake from sleep.

Is that mouse wireless ?

I have the same problem with my Logitech wireless trackball (both
Bluetooth and Unifying receiver capability). One bump, even bumping the
table with the mouse on it brings my laptop out of sleep.

So the Unifying Receiver is waking the system ? And not the mouse ?

In my case either Bluetooth or the U receiver do the same thing. And
both my W10 devices do the same thing using them with the mouse.

What I need is a way to automatically turn off the mouse (and/or the
mouse wireless) in W10 when sleeping. I can see why many would not want
it this way because under normal circumstances it is handy to just move
your mouse to wake the computer.

My only solution so far is to set the 'sleep on inactivity' setting to 5
minutes so it doesn't stay awake long after a mouse bump. I too would be
interested in a better solution (besides junking the mouse)...

123456789 wrote:
On 10/14/2018 5:57 PM, Paul wrote:
Mike wrote:

The [Logitech] M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes the
system when I don't want to... I want to disable ONLY the M510
wake from sleep.

Is that mouse wireless ?

I have the same problem with my Logitech wireless trackball (both
Bluetooth and Unifying receiver capability). One bump, even bumping the
table with the mouse on it brings my laptop out of sleep.

The fact that the "gain" is turned up on mice now, the DPI
is higher, isn't helping matters.

My old mouse is pretty good on "bumps". The new
mouse is extra-sensitive. It's a lot easier to
bump that one.

Of the two mice on the other machine, one turns
off the sensor in sleep, and only the mouse buttons
will wake that one. Whereas the newer mouse with
the "high gain" optical sensor, keeps everything
armed while the computer sleeps. The light source
on that one is "pulsed" to save power, yet still
remains armed for waking. It can tell from one
"pulse" of the blue LED to the next, that it's
been moved.

Paul

On 15-10-2018 4:06, 123456789 wrote:
On 10/14/2018 5:57 PM, Paul wrote:
Mike wrote:

The [Logitech] M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes the
system when I don't want to... I want to disable ONLY the M510
wake from sleep.

Is that mouse wireless ?

I have the same problem with my Logitech wireless trackball (both
Bluetooth and Unifying receiver capability). One bump, even bumping the
table with the mouse on it brings my laptop out of sleep.

So the Unifying Receiver is waking the system ? And not the mouse ?

In my case either Bluetooth or the U receiver do the same thing. And
both my W10 devices do the same thing using them with the mouse.

What I need is a way to automatically turn off the mouse (and/or the
mouse wireless) in W10 when sleeping. I can see why many would not want
it this way because under normal circumstances it is handy to just move
your mouse to wake the computer.

My only solution so far is to set the 'sleep on inactivity' setting to 5
minutes so it doesn't stay awake long after a mouse bump. I too would be
interested in a better solution (besides junking the mouse)...

Shutdown instead of sleep.

On 10/14/2018 7:31 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 15-10-2018 4:06, 123456789 wrote:

My only solution so far is to set the 'sleep on inactivity'
setting to 5 minutes so it doesn't stay awake long after a mouse
bump. I too would be interested in a better solution (besides
junking the mouse)...

Shutdown instead of sleep.

I like to leave several apps open when my devices are sleeping and since
shutdown closes all apps that wouldn't work for me. I did try using
hibernate for awhile on my laptop but even that was a pain waiting for
the slow restart. And my other W10 device (keyboard/tablet) is not
capable of hibernating so I still had the problem with it anyway.

On 10/14/2018 5:57 PM, Paul wrote:
Mike wrote:

Can't disable mouse wake from sleep.

I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Win 10 v1803
Logitech TK-820 Keyboard with built-in touchpad
Logitech M510 Mouse
Cirque GB410 Serial Touchpad

The M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes
the system when I don't want to.
I want to disable ONLY the M510 wake from sleep.

I've been using the Cirque touchpad for years with
win7 and ancient drivers that no longer work.
Can't find any win10-workable drivers, so Scroll doesn't work.

The Touchpad in the TK-820 is ergonomically UNUSABLE.
Has no buttons.Â* You push the whole touchpad to click.
It's virtually impossible to click the touchpad
without moving the cursor.
I use the Cirque or M510 mouse buttons in conjunction with
TK-820 pad.Â* That sorta works, but I need to disable wake on mouse.

The checkboxes in mouse device properties do absolutely
nothing.

Powercfg shows all still enabled.

If I disable everything mouse related using powercfg,
the result is:

C:\Windows\system32powercfg -devicequery wake_armed
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard
HID Keyboard Device
Intel(R) 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard (001)

The mouse still wakes from sleep.

If I disable wake for ANY of the three keyboard entries,
NOTHING will wake the computer, not even the Cirque
serial touchpad.Â* Have to press the power button to get
it back.

Ideas on how I can disable only the one mouse?

The only option I can think of is to take the keyboard
apart and bring out the click switch connection
and place a switch where I can reach it with my
left hand.

Is that mouse wireless ?
yes and the mouse, touchpad, keyboard all work thru the
same Unifying receiver with setpoint software.
I don't know where the Cirque shows up. The mouse
settings in control panel affect it, but there's no
obvious presence otherwise.

So the Unifying Receiver is waking the system ?
And not the mouse ?
The cirque is connected to the serial port
Turning off the keyboard wake also turns off the
cirque.

I don't have any wireless HID stuff to know
what Device Manager looks like for those. If you
changed the Unifying Receiver, it might be all
or nothing for all I know.

Â*Â* Paul
I put a piece of black tape over the mouse laser.
Now it doesn't wake the computer, but the keys and wheel still
work in conjunction with the touchpad on the keyboard.
I'll see if I can get used to that method.

"Paul" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

Can't disable mouse wake from sleep.

I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Win 10 v1803
Logitech TK-820 Keyboard with built-in touchpad
Logitech M510 Mouse
Cirque GB410 Serial Touchpad

The M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes
the system when I don't want to.
I want to disable ONLY the M510 wake from sleep.

I've been using the Cirque touchpad for years with
win7 and ancient drivers that no longer work.
Can't find any win10-workable drivers, so Scroll doesn't work.

The Touchpad in the TK-820 is ergonomically UNUSABLE.
Has no buttons. You push the whole touchpad to click.
It's virtually impossible to click the touchpad
without moving the cursor.
I use the Cirque or M510 mouse buttons in conjunction with
TK-820 pad. That sorta works, but I need to disable wake on mouse.

The checkboxes in mouse device properties do absolutely
nothing.

Powercfg shows all still enabled.

If I disable everything mouse related using powercfg,
the result is:

C:\Windows\system32powercfg -devicequery wake_armed
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard
HID Keyboard Device
Intel(R) 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard (001)

The mouse still wakes from sleep.

If I disable wake for ANY of the three keyboard entries,
NOTHING will wake the computer, not even the Cirque
serial touchpad. Have to press the power button to get
it back.

Ideas on how I can disable only the one mouse?

The only option I can think of is to take the keyboard
apart and bring out the click switch connection
and place a switch where I can reach it with my
left hand.

Is that mouse wireless ?

So the Unifying Receiver is waking the system ?
And not the mouse ?

I don't have any wireless HID stuff to know
what Device Manager looks like for those. If you
changed the Unifying Receiver, it might be all
or nothing for all I know.

Paul
I had problems with my Logitech mouse a while back and found that I had to
reset the Unifying Receiver by unplugging and replugging. Don't know if it
will help with your problems but sometimes a reset is all it needs.
Ted

Paul wrote:

Of the two mice on the other machine, one turns
off the sensor in sleep, and only the mouse buttons
will wake that one. Whereas the newer mouse with
the "high gain" optical sensor, keeps everything
armed while the computer sleeps.

walking to the bathroom sends enough vibration through the wooden floor
that the logitech mx master in a different room used to wake-up a PC
connected to it, before I disabled wake on mouse.

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 17:21:49 -0700, Mike wrote:


Can't disable mouse wake from sleep.

I have a Dell Optiplex 780 Win 10 v1803
Logitech TK-820 Keyboard with built-in touchpad
Logitech M510 Mouse
Cirque GB410 Serial Touchpad

The M510 is very sensitive to vibration and wakes
the system when I don't want to.
I want to disable ONLY the M510 wake from sleep.

Turn off the mouse.

I've been using the Cirque touchpad for years with
win7 and ancient drivers that no longer work.
Can't find any win10-workable drivers, so Scroll doesn't work.

The Touchpad in the TK-820 is ergonomically UNUSABLE.
Has no buttons. You push the whole touchpad to click.
It's virtually impossible to click the touchpad
without moving the cursor.
I use the Cirque or M510 mouse buttons in conjunction with
TK-820 pad. That sorta works, but I need to disable wake on mouse.

The checkboxes in mouse device properties do absolutely
nothing.

Powercfg shows all still enabled.

If I disable everything mouse related using powercfg,
the result is:

C:\Windows\system32powercfg -devicequery wake_armed
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard
HID Keyboard Device
Intel(R) 82567LM-3 Gigabit Network Connection
Logitech HID-compliant Unifying keyboard (001)

The mouse still wakes from sleep.

If I disable wake for ANY of the three keyboard entries,
NOTHING will wake the computer, not even the Cirque
serial touchpad. Have to press the power button to get
it back.

Ideas on how I can disable only the one mouse?

The only option I can think of is to take the keyboard
apart and bring out the click switch connection
and place a switch where I can reach it with my
left hand.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 10/15/2018 1:00 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

walking to the bathroom sends enough vibration through the wooden floor
that the logitech mx master in a different room used to wake-up a PC
connected to it,

before I disabled wake on mouse.

Where in W10?

I tried: Device Manger Mice and Pointing Device Right Click on the
Mouse select properties Power Management Uncheck "Allow this
device to wake up the computer " apply and save.

Didn't work for me.

123456789 wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

before I disabled wake on mouse.

Where in W10?

I tried: Device Manger Mice and Pointing Device Right Click on the
Mouse select properties Power Management Uncheck "Allow this
device to wake up the computer " apply and save.

view "by connection" and disable wake for the USB hub (or root device,
can't remember which) above the wireless receiver for the mouse.

On 10/15/2018 10:12 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
123456789 wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:

before I disabled wake on mouse.

Where in W10?

I tried: Device Manger Mice and Pointing Device Right Click on the
Mouse select properties Power Management Uncheck "Allow this
device to wake up the computer " apply and save.

view "by connection" and disable wake for the USB hub (or root device,
can't remember which) above the wireless receiver for the mouse.

Can't find it. Thanks anyway.

On 10/15/2018 10:12 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
123456789 wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

before I disabled wake on mouse.

Where in W10?

I tried: Device Manger Mice and Pointing Device Right Click on the
Mouse select properties Power Management Uncheck "Allow this
device to wake up the computer " apply and save.

That didn't work for me either, but using powercfg did.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

For me, the problem seemed to be that the mouse and touchpad
and keyboard all come through the same Logitech unifying receiver.
I like that because I can set the pointer speeds individually.
BUT, the second Cirque touchpad goes through the serial port.
It got disabled too when I disabled the logitech devices. Go figger...

Overnight, my machine woke up twice by the lan. No idea why, but
disabling lan wake from sleep seems to have fixed that too.

view "by connection" and disable wake for the USB hub (or root device,
can't remember which) above the wireless receiver for the mouse.

On 10/15/2018 5:46 PM, Mike wrote:
123456789 wrote:

I tried: Device Manger Mice and Pointing Device Right Click
on the Mouse select properties Power Management Uncheck
"Allow this device to wake up the computer " apply and save.
Didn't work.

That didn't work for me either, but using powercfg did.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

Thanks for the info but this didn't work for me either. I tried powercfg
in both the Powershell(Admin) (and redid it in the Administrator
Command Prompt - just in case) and both gave me the same: "You do not
have permission to enable or disable device wake". Apparently I need
more than just administrator authority.

Overnight, my machine woke up twice by the lan. No idea why, but
disabling lan wake from sleep seems to have fixed that too.

It appears my machine is going to win this one...