Would like to try WSL 2, but ...

So to run WSL 2, I have to join the early insider program (again, I was
part of it before). So I tried to do that -- after signing off on the
disclaimer, clicked on the button in settings to join the program.

It comes up with an error something like "something went wrong, error 0x0".

In doing research on this, it appears this error can pop up if full
diagnostics aren't turned on. Alas, when I went to turn it on, it was
grayed out...and there is red text saying that some of the settings are
managed by "my organization".

Since I log in to my work account from this system on occasion, it's
possible that our IT guys have pushed some kind of policy that full
diagnostics can't be enabled. So, my question:

Is there a crafty way to override any such setting, so I can turn on full
diagnostics?

BTW, I did try logging in with a personal account, but got the same "error
0x0".

And I also tried running what is listed at the following URL, but that
didn't help either:

https://www.kapilarya.com/reset-loca...-in-windows-10

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

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vallor wrote:
So to run WSL 2, I have to join the early insider program (again, I was
part of it before). So I tried to do that -- after signing off on the
disclaimer, clicked on the button in settings to join the program.

It comes up with an error something like "something went wrong, error 0x0".

In doing research on this, it appears this error can pop up if full
diagnostics aren't turned on. Alas, when I went to turn it on, it was
grayed out...and there is red text saying that some of the settings are
managed by "my organization".

Since I log in to my work account from this system on occasion, it's
possible that our IT guys have pushed some kind of policy that full
diagnostics can't be enabled. So, my question:

Is there a crafty way to override any such setting, so I can turn on full
diagnostics?

BTW, I did try logging in with a personal account, but got the same "error
0x0".

And I also tried running what is listed at the following URL, but that
didn't help either:

https://www.kapilarya.com/reset-loca...-in-windows-10

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.


Why aren't you running your WSL2 test in a VM ?

I wouldn't run an Insider program setup, and make
connections to work with it. Bad hygiene.

I keep my Insider setup separate from everything
else here. Practical *nothing*, no useful work, is
done in the Insider setup. It just keeps doing Upgrade
installs, and is kept as a reference.

You can always edit the Registry and change that setting,
but I don't think I'd do that to a dual-purpose setup
like you propose.

You'll be put on a different software stream (like the
Fast ring), and be receiving OS Upgrades all the time.
There have been "rough patches" where the delivered
OSes are broken in some way.

I actually tried to Upgrade Install one of my Insiders manually,
after it complained about some licensing issue (I did this
a couple days ago). While installing this failed
to complete, the application of the install attempt actually
repaired whatever was wrong. (It could have been a server
problem, we'll never know.) The discs are "one behind" the
current release, which might be 18936 or so.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...reviewadvanced

Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_18932.iso

And that's a pretty big ISO if I recollect. It's probably
an 11-OS version and would need dual-layer DVD media.
To install in a VM, you can keep it as an ISO and just
tell the VM to use the ISO as a virtual DVD drive.

The Insider program uses your Microsoft Account (MSA),
if you already have one. You'll need something like
that to get the media.

Paul

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 05:52:16 -0400, Paul wrote:
vallor wrote:

[ OP ]

Why aren't you running your WSL2 test in a VM ?

I wouldn't run an Insider program setup, and make connections to work
with it. Bad hygiene.

I keep my Insider setup separate from everything else here. Practical
*nothing*, no useful work, is done in the Insider setup. It just keeps
doing Upgrade installs, and is kept as a reference.

You can always edit the Registry and change that setting,
but I don't think I'd do that to a dual-purpose setup like you propose.

You'll be put on a different software stream (like the Fast ring), and
be receiving OS Upgrades all the time.
There have been "rough patches" where the delivered OSes are broken in
some way.

I actually tried to Upgrade Install one of my Insiders manually,
after it complained about some licensing issue (I did this a couple days
ago). While installing this failed to complete, the application of the
install attempt actually repaired whatever was wrong. (It could have
been a server problem, we'll never know.) The discs are "one behind" the
current release, which might be 18936 or so.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/
windowsinsiderpreviewadvanced

Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_18932.iso

Thank you for the link -- downloading now.

I honestly thought the "spirit" of the insider program was to use the
build for everyday computing. But now that I think about it, all I want
to do is look at WSL 2 itself, and not necessarily do a comprehensive
test. Just wondering what performance is going to look like, because WSL
2 will be essentially nested virtual hosts.


And that's a pretty big ISO if I recollect. It's probably an 11-OS
version and would need dual-layer DVD media.
To install in a VM, you can keep it as an ISO and just tell the VM to
use the ISO as a virtual DVD drive.

The Insider program uses your Microsoft Account (MSA),
if you already have one. You'll need something like that to get the
media.

My personal live.com account worked to get at the download.

I'm actually going to fire it up under virtualbox on Linux...

Thanks again.

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-v

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 02:58:48 +0000, vallor wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 05:52:16 -0400, Paul wrote:
vallor wrote:

[ OP ]

Why aren't you running your WSL2 test in a VM ?

I wouldn't run an Insider program setup, and make connections to work
with it. Bad hygiene.

Okay, answer number 2:

Because a Win10 nested virtual host doesn't seem to run in a virtualbox
virtual host?

https://imgur.com/0UDSITm

I think I'm going to have to, at least, try to do some kind of live
install on a USB stick, or dual-boot to it, or something.

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-v

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 04:08:09 +0000, vallor wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 02:58:48 +0000, vallor wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 05:52:16 -0400, Paul wrote:
vallor wrote:

[ OP ]

Why aren't you running your WSL2 test in a VM ?

I wouldn't run an Insider program setup, and make connections to work
with it. Bad hygiene.

Okay, answer number 2:

Because a Win10 nested virtual host doesn't seem to run in a virtualbox
virtual host?

https://imgur.com/0UDSITm

I think I'm going to have to, at least, try to do some kind of live
install on a USB stick, or dual-boot to it, or something.

Woops, don't mind me -- just read that I need to be running Virtualbox 6
to have a HyperV virt run inside it.

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-v

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 21:57:47 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

Scott:
I need to be running Virtualbox 6 to have a HyperV virt run inside it.

Why run Linux on Windows on Linux ?

Mainly because all my virtualization experience is with libvirtd (incl.
virt-manager), and virtualbox, on Linux. I've never run any HyperV, ever.

I want to see how comprehensive WSL 2 is, and it appears to handle setting
up its own virtual host mechanics, so I've kind of been relying on that.

I guess I could learn about HyperV. Indeed, guess I might have to --
still have the same problem after upgrading to virtualbox-6.0 (on Linux),
which if I'm interpreting things correctly, is that Windows 10 isn't
detecting "virtualability" within the guest with which to start its own
HyperV guest.

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-v

Scott:
I need to be running Virtualbox 6
to have a HyperV virt run inside it.

Why run Linux on Windows on Linux ?