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Old May 19th 17, 07:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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I have a Dell XPS 8500 with Windows 7 Professional, SP1
with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast, Windows Defender
and Windows Firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel(R)Core (TM) i7-33-3770 GHz
RAM 12.0 GB
System type 64 bit operating system

I also have a

Dell Optiplex 780 Tower computer with Windows 7 Professional
SP1, with Spywareblaster, Malwarebytes, Avast, Windows Defender
and Windows Firewall.

Intel (R) Core 2 Duo 2.93 GHz
4GB RAM, 750 GB HD
Sysytem type: 64 bit operating system

External hard drives:

Seagate Backup Plus (1 TB) 2.5 USB Portable HD

WD Black series WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200
RPM 64 MB Cache SATA 6.0 Gb/s 3.5" Internal
Hard Drive


I ran updates for the 780 and installed two optional
updates. Then it asked to restart and it came up with this:

https://s17.postimg.org/el36j1kbv/16_after_updates.jpg

I restarted it again with no issues; so my question is
should this be of any concern?

Thanks,
Robert

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Old May 19th 17, 07:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Hopefully this is a better picture

http://i68.tinypic.com/357ejj8.jpg
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Old May 20th 17, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
Hopefully this is a better picture

http://i68.tinypic.com/357ejj8.jpg


It's pretty hard to figure out where that might be coming from.

https://www.codeproject.com/Articles...nding-Tutorial

The program that issued the error, might be in charge
of preparing a dialog of sorts. This picture demonstrates
how a developer could use DataGridView.

https://www.codeproject.com/KB/datab...orial/dbt7.png

So if *some* program on your computer, at *some* point
wishes to show you something, that kind of code can be
used to do it. The library for it is available in VB,
..NET, C#, so the capability is widely available, and could
be in new code or old code. The specific error message happens,
when two commands are sent to some library at the same time.
The library has primitive recursion detection, and it knows
that some undefined thing is wrong with the code calling it.
In such a case, developers have been using workarounds, such
as removing cell formatting, before realigning cells in the display.

So it looks kinda like a table generator, and I expect
the decorations in that codeproject.com example, don't
really show the "power" of the WinForm approach.

*******

OK, so what could be doing that ?

Now, I'm just using my imagination here. I don't know for
a fact this program uses Windows Forms.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html

It's possible the table drawn by this program, is a WinForm.
So this could be a DataGridView.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.gif

*******

If it happens again, and the dialog box is present on the screen,
don't panic. Open Task Manager and review what processes are
running at the time. Maybe the program doing it, is still running
at the instant the dialog box is shown. As soon as you click
to dismiss the dialog, the program may exit and then you won't
see it in Task Manager. Sysinternals.com Process Explorer is
an example of another tool you might use to examine the evidence
of the thing throwing the error. The dialog box can just
sit there, while you work on it.

Every error on a computer means something. And in some cases,
it can take months to understand (in the long run), what the
root cause was, and just how important it was. You know
the error should not have appeared. And the error takes
on more importance if it appears a second time.

Paul
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Old May 20th 17, 07:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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Understood, but the thing that I'm curious about
is that I do absolutely nothing on the 780 except
updates and scans unless the 8500 has a problem
I don't use the 780.

Robert
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Old May 20th 17, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mark Twain wrote:
Understood, but the thing that I'm curious about
is that I do absolutely nothing on the 780 except
updates and scans unless the 8500 has a problem
I don't use the 780.

Robert


The strangest thing I ever had happen on a computer,
was installing Java JRE. And on the next reboot, a
Promise RAID software package started installing itself.
The card was no longer present on the computer, and I may
have attempted two years previously to install the software
and it didn't work.

In that case, somehow the presence of the Java software
the Promise package needed, allowed the installation attempt
to complete. Even though it was happening two years after
the fact.

I don't think there are too many pieces of software on
computers, that work that way. Maybe some .NET thing
that changed during a Windows Update, finally allowed
some software to start running.

You could use Autoruns, to examine the C: to see what
Startup items might be armed. It's better though, if
you have the dialog box with the error still on the
screen, to use Task Manager and look for it. Trying to
trace Startup items, isn't a sure-fired debugging method.

Paul
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Old May 21st 17, 08:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark Twain
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That sounds weird that it would start installing
without the card present. You would think the computer
would detect it?

I should of opened up the details for you to see
but didn't think of it at the time. I started the
780 tonight and everything looks normal.

If the problem returns I'll start Task Manager and check
it out and post it.

Thanks,
Robert

 




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