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Old August 20th 04, 04:55 AM
freddie
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I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?

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Old August 20th 04, 05:01 AM
Kelly7018
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I have the same problem what up with this?

"freddie" wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?

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Old August 20th 04, 05:53 AM
freddie
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I looked through alot of the past posts here and tried a few things. None of
which solved my problem so I am hoping that this post will get me up and
running.

I made sure simple file sharing was enabled on both systems and that the
guest accounts were active. Both systems are part of the same workgroup. I
have tried with the firewall enabled and with it disabled. When the firewall
is enabled I am not able to ping the systems however when they are disabled I
am able to ping only by the IPaddress but not by the computer name. Any ideas?

"Kelly7018" wrote:

I have the same problem what up with this?

"freddie" wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?

  #4  
Old August 20th 04, 06:55 AM
Stuart P. Bentley
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Here's a useless tech support cliché: have you tried rebooting?

"freddie" wrote:

I looked through alot of the past posts here and tried a few things. None of
which solved my problem so I am hoping that this post will get me up and
running.

I made sure simple file sharing was enabled on both systems and that the
guest accounts were active. Both systems are part of the same workgroup. I
have tried with the firewall enabled and with it disabled. When the firewall
is enabled I am not able to ping the systems however when they are disabled I
am able to ping only by the IPaddress but not by the computer name. Any ideas?

"Kelly7018" wrote:

I have the same problem what up with this?

"freddie" wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?

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Old August 20th 04, 08:20 AM
No_Name
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Default WINDOWS XP HOME NETWORKING PROBLEM

You are missing NetBios to resolve names, assign IP's
reboot then try pinging the IP's
-----Original Message-----
I have the same problem what up with this?

"freddie" wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking

here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home

which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both

belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband

router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with

IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network

places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for

the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and

over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses

however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That

doesnt work. What am I
missing here?

.

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Old August 20th 04, 10:47 AM
scruples
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A suggestion is make sure your IP configurations are correct (I know
you've probably been thorough but it's worth checking again). Start
the DOS prompt by going to Run and type "cmd" without the commas. At
the DOS prompt type "ipconfig /all" and you will see something like
this (a copy of my setup):

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PROVISTA
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-05-1C-0E-72-1
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.26.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.26.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.0.33
80.58.32.97

Make sure the information for your Default Gateway is same for both
machines and that the IP Address is different for each machine. Also
you can check you chosen Host Name which should also be different on
both machines.

Then on the DOS prompt type: NET VIEW and you should see something like
this:

Server Name Remark
-------------------------------
\\LAPTOP MOBILE
\\PROVISTA ADI

This shows that your network is setup ok and basically working.
Also try running the Network Setup Wizard again, then reboot.
Can you still not see the other computer in Network Places?



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Old August 20th 04, 11:34 AM
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Oh, as a follow up to my last post, did you check if your MS Firewall is
checked - if so, uncheck it. Do you have any third party firewalls
installed?



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Old August 20th 04, 01:59 PM
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The first thing I'd look at is your firewall settings, be
it XP's built-in, Zone Alarm, or the one in your router.
Setup your router with a three IP address range .1
through .3, leaving .1 as the router, and static set your
two pcs to .2 and .3. Make sure they're all in the same
subnetmask, and that DHCP is not enabled on the router.
If you have a crossover ethernet cable, connect the two
XP machines directly to each other. Also, I'd recommend
something other than HOME or WORKGROUP or MSHOME for your
workgroup, that's too easy to hack if you ever setup WIFI.

Good luck!

Your PC Doctor on Call, Memphis
-----Original Message-----
I have the same problem what up with this?

"freddie" wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking

here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home

which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both

belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband

router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with

IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network

places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for

the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and

over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses

however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That

doesnt work. What am I
missing here?

.

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Old August 20th 04, 04:04 PM
Chuck
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:55:02 -0700, "freddie"
wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?


Freddie,

Let's do some basic diagnostics.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

From each computer, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each
computer as appropriate):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ThisComputerByName
2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress
3) \\OtherComputerByName
4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (8 tests
total).

From each computer, test connectivity:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
6) Ping the router.
Report success / failure of each test (12 tests total).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Old September 25th 04, 12:28 AM
Ken J
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freddie & Kelly,

I had the same problem! I also looked through posts and tried various
suggestions. I have XP SP2 on one end of my home network and Win98 on the
other.

Here's how I solved the problem. It's a workaround. Microsoft seems
committed to TCP/IP, but IPX can be used for local networks just fine. I
added the IPX/SPX protocol to both machines. I also made sure that NetBIOS
was added for the IPX on both machines. Then I went into the IPX/SPX
properties, advanced tab, and I set the frame type to 802.2 on both
machines. You could also use 802.3 on both, but they must be the same. I
rebooted and my local shares came up just fine!

Give this a try.

Ken


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Old March 27th 05, 01:41 AM
Freddie
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does user name and password play any roll in connecting the old pc to New pc?
I wonder if you are using same Username and Password in both PC you might be
able to connect. just a suggestion.
hope it works for you freddie

Freddie

"Chuck" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:55:02 -0700, "freddie"
wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?


Freddie,

Let's do some basic diagnostics.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

From each computer, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each
computer as appropriate):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ThisComputerByName
2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress
3) \\OtherComputerByName
4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (8 tests
total).

From each computer, test connectivity:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
6) Ping the router.
Report success / failure of each test (12 tests total).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

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Old March 27th 05, 06:59 AM
Chuck
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:41:02 -0800, "Freddie"
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:55:02 -0700, "freddie"
wrote:

I have been trying to setup Windows XP home networking here at my home
between 2 systems. I have 2 desktops.. 1 is XP home which I named "OLD" and
the other is XP Pro which I named "NEW" and both belong to the "HOME"
workgroup. Both connected to a Linksys Broadband router to connect to the
internet.

I have shared files, renamed workgroups, played with IP addresses and DNS
but still I am unable to see the systems in network places. If I am on ""OLD"
all I see in Network places is the shared files for the "OLD" system. Same
thing goes for the other one.

I have been through Microsofts help files over and over but still cannot
figure out the problem. I am able to ping IP addresses however I am unable to
ping the computername. IE. ping old or ping new. That doesnt work. What am I
missing here?


Freddie,

Let's do some basic diagnostics.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

From each computer, test shares visibility (use actual name / address of each
computer as appropriate):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ThisComputerByName
2) \\ThisComputerByIPAddress
3) \\OtherComputerByName
4) \\OtherComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / exact error displayed in each test (8 tests
total).

From each computer, test connectivity:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
6) Ping the router.
Report success / failure of each test (12 tests total).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

does user name and password play any roll in connecting the old pc to New pc?
I wonder if you are using same Username and Password in both PC you might be
able to connect. just a suggestion.
hope it works for you freddie

Freddie


Freddie,

User name and password plays a role in allowing access. A problem described as
"I am unable to see the systems in network places", however, sounds like a
browser problem. I"m not talking about Internet Explorer here. The browser is
the program that allows any computer to see any other computer on the LAN.

There are several possible causes of a browser problem. The diagnostics
suggested should help us diagnose the possible causes.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer, so we may diagnose the
problem more efficiently.
Start - Run - "cmd" - Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window. Open Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!, open
file c:\ipconfig.txt, copy and paste entire contents into your next post.
Identify operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig
listing.

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