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clarification sought in using XP Pro laptop for domain at work and workgroup at home
I am inquiring for a friend. Unfortunately, I do not have an XP Pro
computer, or a domain, to experiment on. So I am asking for some directions in helping my friend use his laptop at home, and at work. The XP Pro laptop was once configured for a two-computer workgroup. Recently my friend changed employment situations and his laptop was then changed by his new employer's technician to connect to the company domain. He has two "profiles," but I am unsure of whether those are hardware profiles, or whatever. My friend is many miles away, and I haven't seen his laptop for months. We speak by telephone. He called me and said he "wanted it both ways." One big challenge to us is that the other (XP Home desktop) computer that made up his two-computer workgroup just happened to die, for unrelated reasons (hard drive death), simultaneous with his joining of the new employer's domain. He has replaced the desktop with a new XP Home computer, which has default settings, such as "WORKGROUP" as the name of its network affiliation. Of course there is no domain at his home, and I am aware that XP Home computers are incapable of logging on to a domain, anyway. I have searched old threads in this newsgroup, without gaining a clear answer to my friend's need. Ron Mendoza's instructions come very close. However, I doubt that my friend wants to create a new local user in his XP Pro laptop. He wants his old user, with all its e-mail, favorite places, etc., to be usable when either connected to his employer's domain, or his home workgroup. Last night, we spoke via telephone and he switched his laptop to "WORKGROUP" and away from domain affiliation. His home peer network now functions. I anticipate that he will no longer be able to logon to the company domain, until he reconfigures his laptop for domain participation. His employer's domain name is ABCDOMAIN.LOCAL, and he can call the employer's technician if necessary. So should he change the name of his HOME workgroup to ABCDOMAIN? Should he leave his laptop configured for domain participation, and expect it to participate in his home peer network without any further changes? Is there a need for two *network* profiles (as opposed to hardware profiles), one specific to the office, and the other specific to his home? A few specific instructions would be appreciated, in this case, as I lack the equipment to try this myself. Thanks! Marc Greenfield Nov 20 2001, 11:59 pm show options Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web From: "Marc Greenfield" - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:56:34 +0300 Local: Tues, Nov 20 2001 11:56 pm Subject: Accessing multiple domains Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I have a question like the one asked by Ken Thompson. I need to connect to two networks using my laptop with XP Pro. I have a docking station and when the domain and TCP/IP office settings have been installed, XP automatically sets up two hardware profiles (that's good). The office network has a domain and TCP/IP address, etc. The home network has a workgroup, no domain, and automatically senses the network settings. When I set up the laptop to connect to the domain, XP boots to the correct domain hardware profile and the logon screen indicates that I have a choice of logging into the network domain or the computer. When I select to log onto the computer at home, it retains all of the domain and office LAN settings for the PCMCIA card and so cannot connect to my home computer. (I couldn't find a second "XP compatible" card and did not want to buy two of the same cards, fearing that I would have the problem I am having now). If I reset the computer at home to have the correct TCP/IP settings and to attach to a workgroup not a domain, I can connect to the home network, but when I reboot, the domain option is eliminated and I must reset everything back in the office. Can anyone tell me if I can set up the computer to boot to a domain and alternately to a workgroup? Will I need to purchase a second PCMCIA card that binds to different network settings? Regards, Hopelessly confused Ron Mendoza Nov 21 2001, 8:47 am show options Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web From: Ron Mendoza &*gt; - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:44:44 -0800 Local: Wed, Nov 21 2001 8:44 am Subject: Accessing multiple domains Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Marc, There are multiple ways to achieve what you want. 1. If you haven't already done so, create a local user on your laptop with the desired user name and password you want to use in your Workgroup at home. At work, log on to the domain as usual, using your domain account. At home, simply log into your local machine using the local account you created above. You should then be able to access all your Workgroup resources without a problem. 2. Another way is to log on to your laptop using your Domain account even when you're at home. Then, use the Manage Network Passwords feature to store the user name and password you want to use when accessing your Workgroup resources at home. |
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clarification sought in using XP Pro laptop for domain at work and workgroup at home
this may help, quoted from http://www.ChicagoTech.net
Q: How can I share files between workgroup computer and domain/workgroup computer? I have a home wireless network and share files and a printer between two computers. I also use Win 2000/XP laptop at work with domain network. How can I share files between these computers at home? A: Deepening on your network setup, you may 1) Logon local laptop using the same logon id and password on both machine. 2) change workgroup name to match win2000 domain and the laptop needs to install at home first ad then join the domain . 3) without changing the workgroup name and logon ID, just enable guest account in win 2000/XP. 4) If you are running XP, enable Simple File Sharing. 5) logon domain user on the domain laptop (even the workgroup is different), use command net use \\workgroupcomputer /user:administrator, (here administrator is workgroup computer local administrator), the enter workgroup computer administrator password. You should be able to access the workgroup resources. For more and other information, go to http://howtonetworking.com. Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help. Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE How to Setup Windows, Network, Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. I recommend Brinkster for web hosting! "John B" wrote in message ... I am inquiring for a friend. Unfortunately, I do not have an XP Pro computer, or a domain, to experiment on. So I am asking for some directions in helping my friend use his laptop at home, and at work. The XP Pro laptop was once configured for a two-computer workgroup. Recently my friend changed employment situations and his laptop was then changed by his new employer's technician to connect to the company domain. He has two "profiles," but I am unsure of whether those are hardware profiles, or whatever. My friend is many miles away, and I haven't seen his laptop for months. We speak by telephone. He called me and said he "wanted it both ways." One big challenge to us is that the other (XP Home desktop) computer that made up his two-computer workgroup just happened to die, for unrelated reasons (hard drive death), simultaneous with his joining of the new employer's domain. He has replaced the desktop with a new XP Home computer, which has default settings, such as "WORKGROUP" as the name of its network affiliation. Of course there is no domain at his home, and I am aware that XP Home computers are incapable of logging on to a domain, anyway. I have searched old threads in this newsgroup, without gaining a clear answer to my friend's need. Ron Mendoza's instructions come very close. However, I doubt that my friend wants to create a new local user in his XP Pro laptop. He wants his old user, with all its e-mail, favorite places, etc., to be usable when either connected to his employer's domain, or his home workgroup. Last night, we spoke via telephone and he switched his laptop to "WORKGROUP" and away from domain affiliation. His home peer network now functions. I anticipate that he will no longer be able to logon to the company domain, until he reconfigures his laptop for domain participation. His employer's domain name is ABCDOMAIN.LOCAL, and he can call the employer's technician if necessary. So should he change the name of his HOME workgroup to ABCDOMAIN? Should he leave his laptop configured for domain participation, and expect it to participate in his home peer network without any further changes? Is there a need for two *network* profiles (as opposed to hardware profiles), one specific to the office, and the other specific to his home? A few specific instructions would be appreciated, in this case, as I lack the equipment to try this myself. Thanks! Marc Greenfield Nov 20 2001, 11:59 pm show options Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web From: "Marc Greenfield" - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:56:34 +0300 Local: Tues, Nov 20 2001 11:56 pm Subject: Accessing multiple domains Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I have a question like the one asked by Ken Thompson. I need to connect to two networks using my laptop with XP Pro. I have a docking station and when the domain and TCP/IP office settings have been installed, XP automatically sets up two hardware profiles (that's good). The office network has a domain and TCP/IP address, etc. The home network has a workgroup, no domain, and automatically senses the network settings. When I set up the laptop to connect to the domain, XP boots to the correct domain hardware profile and the logon screen indicates that I have a choice of logging into the network domain or the computer. When I select to log onto the computer at home, it retains all of the domain and office LAN settings for the PCMCIA card and so cannot connect to my home computer. (I couldn't find a second "XP compatible" card and did not want to buy two of the same cards, fearing that I would have the problem I am having now). If I reset the computer at home to have the correct TCP/IP settings and to attach to a workgroup not a domain, I can connect to the home network, but when I reboot, the domain option is eliminated and I must reset everything back in the office. Can anyone tell me if I can set up the computer to boot to a domain and alternately to a workgroup? Will I need to purchase a second PCMCIA card that binds to different network settings? Regards, Hopelessly confused Ron Mendoza Nov 21 2001, 8:47 am show options Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web From: Ron Mendoza &*gt; - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:44:44 -0800 Local: Wed, Nov 21 2001 8:44 am Subject: Accessing multiple domains Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Marc, There are multiple ways to achieve what you want. 1. If you haven't already done so, create a local user on your laptop with the desired user name and password you want to use in your Workgroup at home. At work, log on to the domain as usual, using your domain account. At home, simply log into your local machine using the local account you created above. You should then be able to access all your Workgroup resources without a problem. 2. Another way is to log on to your laptop using your Domain account even when you're at home. Then, use the Manage Network Passwords feature to store the user name and password you want to use when accessing your Workgroup resources at home. |
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clarification sought in using XP Pro laptop for domain at work and workgroup at home
There is no need to disjoin a laptop from a domain in order to bring it home
and use it with a workgroup. In fact, doing so has definitely broken his ability to log into the domain at work and he will need the assistance of his domain administrators to fix what he has broken. The first thing your friend needs to do is explain his desires to the folks who run his work network. They may or may not wish him to use his laptop on his home network and if they do not then he should respect their wishes. If they do not mind then they will be able to assist him in making it possible. In all likelihood it will take no more than plugging his laptop into his home network and connecting to the resources he wants to use manually (as opposed to automatically as usually happens on a work network). -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "John B" wrote in message ... Last night, we spoke via telephone and he switched his laptop to "WORKGROUP" and away from domain affiliation. His home peer network now functions. I anticipate that he will no longer be able to logon to the company domain, until he reconfigures his laptop for domain participation. His employer's domain name is ABCDOMAIN.LOCAL, and he can call the employer's technician if necessary. |
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clarification sought in using XP Pro laptop for domain at work and workgroup at home
Thanks for the response. "Richard G. Harper" wrote The first thing your friend needs to do is explain his desires to the folks who run his work network. They may or may not wish him to use his laptop on his home network and if they do not then he should respect their wishes. If they do not mind then they will be able to assist him in making it possible. Good point. In all likelihood it will take no more than plugging his laptop into his home network and connecting to the resources he wants to use manually (as opposed to automatically as usually happens on a work network). I haven't been on a domain in a long time. I surmise that domain printers and shares show up on a newly connected XP Pro laptop, as long as that laptop is made to be a member of said domain. But couldn't the same be said of, say, an XP Home computer that is newly connected to a peer network? I believe that workgroup resources are visible and usable to dependent computers that have been logged onto by usernames and passwords that exist in the resource-donor computers. What, then, is meant by manual resource connection? Suppose my friend's XP Pro computer is returned to domain participation. He then brings it home, and connects to his Linksys IP router, which also provides firewall and DHCP service. He receives an IP address. He waits a few minutes. Supposedly, he should be able to see the XP Home desktop (workgroup) computer, and its shared resources, at his house. The desktop should similarly see the laptop and any shares therein. The necessary conditions should be, simply: * they are on the same subnet; i.e., similar, but not identical, IP addresses * Msft file and print sharing active on both computers * no software firewall interference * username and password, used at one computer, exist within the other computer Does it matter that the workgroup name of the desktop does not resemble the domain name of the laptop? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "John B" wrote in message ... Last night, we spoke via telephone and he switched his laptop to "WORKGROUP" and away from domain affiliation. His home peer network now functions. I anticipate that he will no longer be able to logon to the company domain, until he reconfigures his laptop for domain participation. His employer's domain name is ABCDOMAIN.LOCAL, and he can call the employer's technician if necessary. |
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clarification sought in using XP Pro laptop for domain at work and workgroup at home
If the computer gets a valid IP address from the "home" network you should
be able to see and browse the workgroup even if the workgroup name does not match the domain name. You may need to create a user on the home network PCs with the same name and password as are used for the domain login to simplify browsing, but even if you can't browse the home network you can still connect to shared resources by using NET USE with a known ID and password from the home network. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "John B" wrote in message ... Thanks for the response. "Richard G. Harper" wrote The first thing your friend needs to do is explain his desires to the folks who run his work network. They may or may not wish him to use his laptop on his home network and if they do not then he should respect their wishes. If they do not mind then they will be able to assist him in making it possible. Good point. In all likelihood it will take no more than plugging his laptop into his home network and connecting to the resources he wants to use manually (as opposed to automatically as usually happens on a work network). I haven't been on a domain in a long time. I surmise that domain printers and shares show up on a newly connected XP Pro laptop, as long as that laptop is made to be a member of said domain. But couldn't the same be said of, say, an XP Home computer that is newly connected to a peer network? I believe that workgroup resources are visible and usable to dependent computers that have been logged onto by usernames and passwords that exist in the resource-donor computers. What, then, is meant by manual resource connection? Suppose my friend's XP Pro computer is returned to domain participation. He then brings it home, and connects to his Linksys IP router, which also provides firewall and DHCP service. He receives an IP address. He waits a few minutes. Supposedly, he should be able to see the XP Home desktop (workgroup) computer, and its shared resources, at his house. The desktop should similarly see the laptop and any shares therein. The necessary conditions should be, simply: * they are on the same subnet; i.e., similar, but not identical, IP addresses * Msft file and print sharing active on both computers * no software firewall interference * username and password, used at one computer, exist within the other computer Does it matter that the workgroup name of the desktop does not resemble the domain name of the laptop? -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "John B" wrote in message ... Last night, we spoke via telephone and he switched his laptop to "WORKGROUP" and away from domain affiliation. His home peer network now functions. I anticipate that he will no longer be able to logon to the company domain, until he reconfigures his laptop for domain participation. His employer's domain name is ABCDOMAIN.LOCAL, and he can call the employer's technician if necessary. |
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