Procedure to replace my USB hub

I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged into it.
I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so I want to replace
it with another hub that I know is not faulty. Should I do a Safe Hardware
removal of all the devices that are plugged into the hub before replacing it
with another hub or can I just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the
devices and power up?

robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Since the USB hub is not intelligent and I am talking about 10 USB devices
woud I not get 10 instances of the Found New Hardware wizard at the same
time. I am going from a 13-port hub to two stackable Belkin 7-port hubs
driven off two USB ports at the rear of the computer. Like the current hub
the new hubs will each be powered from the mains.

Since the USB hub is not intelligent and I am talking about 10 USB devices
woud I not get 10 instances of the Found New Hardware wizard at the same
time. I am going from a 13-port hub to two stackable Belkin 7-port hubs
driven off two USB ports at the rear of the computer. Like the current hub
the new hubs will each be powered from the mains.

wrote in message
...
Since the USB hub is not intelligent and I am talking about 10 USB devices
woud I not get 10 instances of the Found New Hardware wizard at the same
time. I am going from a 13-port hub to two stackable Belkin 7-port hubs
driven off two USB ports at the rear of the computer. Like the current hub
the new hubs will each be powered from the mains.

If the PC is powered off at the time you swap the hubs, you're not going to
get the new hardware wizard since those devices are already installed. Like
Shenan stated, the hubs and their ports are not intelligent, they are just
passive ports passing through the info from the attached devices.
By "powered from the mains," does that mean external power from a wall plug?

SC Tom

wrote in message
...
Since the USB hub is not intelligent and I am talking about 10 USB devices
woud I not get 10 instances of the Found New Hardware wizard at the same
time. I am going from a 13-port hub to two stackable Belkin 7-port hubs
driven off two USB ports at the rear of the computer. Like the current hub
the new hubs will each be powered from the mains.

If the PC is powered off at the time you swap the hubs, you're not going to
get the new hardware wizard since those devices are already installed. Like
Shenan stated, the hubs and their ports are not intelligent, they are just
passive ports passing through the info from the attached devices.
By "powered from the mains," does that mean external power from a wall plug?

SC Tom

robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
Since the USB hub is not intelligent and I am talking about 10 USB
devices woud I not get 10 instances of the Found New Hardware
wizard at the same time. I am going from a 13-port hub to two
stackable Belkin 7-port hubs driven off two USB ports at the rear
of the computer. Like the current hub the new hubs will each be
powered from the mains.

Again - get powered USB hubs - especially with that ridiculous amount of USB
devices. *grin*

The way you want to do it is the way I have presented. Devices will have to
be re-located, yep - but they aren't called universal serial buses for
nothing. ;-)

With that many devices (seriously?) you might be better off with this method
(just for sanity):

- Properly shutdown the system.
- Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
- Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one, especially in your case.)
- Plug everything back that you *need* to have, like keyboard, mouse. Leave
everything else unplugged.
- Power on the system.
- After it comes up and you are able to use the original two or so items you
plugged in, begin plugging in the other stuff one at a time - giving each
one time to be found and loaded and verifying you can access each one before
going on to the next one.

Now the real question everyone has to be thinking - why 10?

Keyboard, mouse, a media card reader, fingerprint reader, printer, scanner,
another printer, drawing pad and a couple of USB hard disk drives?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
Since the USB hub is not intelligent and I am talking about 10 USB
devices woud I not get 10 instances of the Found New Hardware
wizard at the same time. I am going from a 13-port hub to two
stackable Belkin 7-port hubs driven off two USB ports at the rear
of the computer. Like the current hub the new hubs will each be
powered from the mains.

Again - get powered USB hubs - especially with that ridiculous amount of USB
devices. *grin*

The way you want to do it is the way I have presented. Devices will have to
be re-located, yep - but they aren't called universal serial buses for
nothing. ;-)

With that many devices (seriously?) you might be better off with this method
(just for sanity):

- Properly shutdown the system.
- Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
- Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one, especially in your case.)
- Plug everything back that you *need* to have, like keyboard, mouse. Leave
everything else unplugged.
- Power on the system.
- After it comes up and you are able to use the original two or so items you
plugged in, begin plugging in the other stuff one at a time - giving each
one time to be found and loaded and verifying you can access each one before
going on to the next one.

Now the real question everyone has to be thinking - why 10?

Keyboard, mouse, a media card reader, fingerprint reader, printer, scanner,
another printer, drawing pad and a couple of USB hard disk drives?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

On Sep 21, 6:56*pm, "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

--
Shenan Stanley
* * *MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Even though this process will work, it will leave several of the
attached devices as "ghost" devices. Once the hub is replaced, you
should go back and remove these "ghosted" devices for cleanup:

Click on Start

Click on Run

Enter : CMD

In the Command Prompt "window" enter the following:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
cd %SystemRoot%\System32
start devmgmt.msc

Once on Device Manager, "check off" "Show hidden devices..." and the
work on uninstall the "ghosted" devices.

On Sep 21, 6:56*pm, "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

--
Shenan Stanley
* * *MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Even though this process will work, it will leave several of the
attached devices as "ghost" devices. Once the hub is replaced, you
should go back and remove these "ghosted" devices for cleanup:

Click on Start

Click on Run

Enter : CMD

In the Command Prompt "window" enter the following:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
cd %SystemRoot%\System32
start devmgmt.msc

Once on Device Manager, "check off" "Show hidden devices..." and the
work on uninstall the "ghosted" devices.

"smlunatick" wrote in message
...
On Sep 21, 6:56 pm, "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart
Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Even though this process will work, it will leave several of the
attached devices as "ghost" devices. Once the hub is replaced, you
should go back and remove these "ghosted" devices for cleanup:

Click on Start

Click on Run

Enter : CMD

In the Command Prompt "window" enter the following:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
cd %SystemRoot%\System32
start devmgmt.msc

Once on Device Manager, "check off" "Show hidden devices..." and the
work on uninstall the "ghosted" devices.
===========

Before doing this, make sure any device you are using is plugged in and
powered on. If you remove a ghost of an installed device when it is powered
off, the New Hardware wizard will start when you power it back on.

SC Tom

"smlunatick" wrote in message
...
On Sep 21, 6:56 pm, "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
robertvemail-ssnb wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged
into it. I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so
I want to replace it with another hub that I know is not faulty.
Should I do a Safe Hardware removal of all the devices that are
plugged into the hub before replacing it with another hub or can I
just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the devices and power
up?

Properly shutdown the system.
Unhook everything that has to do with the USB HUB.
Replace the USB hub (I recommend a powered one.)
Plug everything back in that has to do with the USB HUB.
Power on the system.

The USB Hub is not intelligent.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart
Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Even though this process will work, it will leave several of the
attached devices as "ghost" devices. Once the hub is replaced, you
should go back and remove these "ghosted" devices for cleanup:

Click on Start

Click on Run

Enter : CMD

In the Command Prompt "window" enter the following:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
cd %SystemRoot%\System32
start devmgmt.msc

Once on Device Manager, "check off" "Show hidden devices..." and the
work on uninstall the "ghosted" devices.
===========

Before doing this, make sure any device you are using is plugged in and
powered on. If you remove a ghost of an installed device when it is powered
off, the New Hardware wizard will start when you power it back on.

SC Tom

On 21 Wrz, 18:35, wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged into it.
I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so I want to replace
it with another hub that I know is not faulty. Should I do a Safe Hardware
removal of all the devices that are plugged into the hub before replacing it
with another hub or can I just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the
devices and power up?

On 21 Wrz, 18:35, wrote:
I have a USB hub attached with a number of hardware devices plugged into it.
I believe that it is faulty and causing system reboots so I want to replace
it with another hub that I know is not faulty. Should I do a Safe Hardware
removal of all the devices that are plugged into the hub before replacing it
with another hub or can I just power off, switch the usb hubs, plug in the
devices and power up?