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Old February 21st 15, 03:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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That is a start ,

What you can do is boot up with a rescue cd that has Windows CHKDSK


then run chkdsk /f on the drive


I was able to download a Windows 8 iso-file, burned the dvd and was able
to boot from that dvd.
In the repair options I found the possibility to get into the UEFI/BIOS,
which I found strange.
I changed the setting from UEFI to Legacy. Result : I can now boot from
any bootable cd, dvd or usb-stick!
Problem : since I changed that, the laptop doesn't boot from the
harddisk at all ('no boot disk', or something like that).
Second problem : I do not find the possibility anymore to change the
BIOS to the UEFI setting...
I am now doing a chkdsk /f from the C: drive (more than an hour and far
from finished...).
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  #32  
Old February 21st 15, 04:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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I forgot to ask, where did you obtain the W8 ISO?


Torrent.
Folder called "Windows 8 32bit 64bit MSDN".
64bit iso called : "en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso"
  #33  
Old February 21st 15, 07:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Carpe Diem wrote:
I forgot to ask, where did you obtain the W8 ISO?


Torrent.
Folder called "Windows 8 32bit 64bit MSDN".
64bit iso called : "en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso"


And you checked the SHA-1 to make sure it was legit, right ?

It's hard to get checksum values off the MSDN site now.
So I have to use non-authoritative sources. At one time,
the downloads were protected, but the checksums were listed.
Now, you can't even get to the listing without an MSDN
subscription login. So now we're at the mercy of the uploaders,
to copy the SHA-1 value for us, into the usual forums. Not
a desirable situation at all. At least you get the best
DVD by using one of those (better than the downloads offered
off the Microsoft site now, key based).

Windows 8 (x64) English
Date: 8/15/2012
3416 MB
File Name: en_windows_8_x64_dvd_915440.iso
SHA1: 1CE53AD5F60419CF04A715CF3233F247E48BEEC4

Paul
  #34  
Old February 21st 15, 07:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 06:39:18 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

2) If I remove the harddisk and connect it to another PC (with Win7) as
a second disk, will that harddisk be readable in Win7??


I think the only way to answer that is to try it.

Frankly, I would guess no, but equally frankly, I don't necessarily
trust my judgment in this case.

But it sure seems worth trying...

Do you have an image or clone backup of the drive? Perhaps you could use
the clone - or create one from the image - to replace the drive in the
laptop.

That might help decide whether the problem with the laptop's hardware
(or firmware) or with the drive itself.

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  #35  
Old February 21st 15, 07:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 11:50:43 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 06:39:18 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

2) If I remove the harddisk and connect it to another PC (with Win7) as
a second disk, will that harddisk be readable in Win7??


I think the only way to answer that is to try it.

Frankly, I would guess no, but equally frankly, I don't necessarily
trust my judgment in this case.

But it sure seems worth trying...

Do you have an image or clone backup of the drive? Perhaps you could use
the clone - or create one from the image - to replace the drive in the
laptop.

That might help decide whether the problem with the laptop's hardware
(or firmware) or with the drive itself.


OTOH, having read further in the thread adn seeing all the problems and
what you've already tried, I'm starting to think that my ideas are
probably of no use.

So I'm probably catching up with your opinion :-)


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  #36  
Old February 21st 15, 09:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Paul wrote:
At least you get the best
DVD by using one of those (better than the downloads offered
off the Microsoft site now, key based).


The Software Recovery program is solely for retail licenses and requires
a key for download and install

The Refresh/Reset program does not require a key for download but does
for installation.

MSDN Dvds of 8/8x require a key for installation too.


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  #37  
Old February 21st 15, 09:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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I noticed the disk is a GPT disk.
Can i delete all partitions and install Windows 7 on a GPT disk??
  #38  
Old February 21st 15, 09:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Carpe Diem wrote:
I noticed the disk is a GPT disk.
Can i delete all partitions and install Windows 7 on a GPT disk??


Have you verified that the disk is not bad ?

Since an OEM unit
- have Win7 drivers for all hardware ?

Is Windows 7 64bit ?

If so, see

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...0-1e0db62af309



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  #39  
Old February 21st 15, 10:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:18:00 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

I noticed the disk is a GPT disk.
Can i delete all partitions and install Windows 7 on a GPT disk??


GPT is just how it's formatted. There's nothing different about the
drive. Once it was a raw drive, just like all the others.

Here's what How-To Geek says:
http://tinyurl.com/l4u87x4

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Old February 21st 15, 10:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 14:19:58 -0800, Stormin' Norman wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:18:00 +0100, Carpe Diem
wrote:

I noticed the disk is a GPT disk.
Can i delete all partitions and install Windows 7 on a GPT disk??


If you delete all the partitions, it will no longer be a GPT disk.
When you do the install, the disk will be repartitioned. The default
partition format for Windows 7 is MBR NTFS. For all intents and
purposes, you will not see a difference between the GPT and NTFS in
normal, everyday use.

You can read more about it he

http://bit.ly/1Igicc6

I would download a free GPARTED bootable disk and use it to delete all
the partitions on the drive if you are having a problem doing it.


We must truly be a pair of great minds - we posted shortened links to
the same How-To Geeks page at the same time.

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  #41  
Old February 22nd 15, 05:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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If your W7 system is 64 bit architecture, you should be able to read a
functioning GPT disk. You will only be able to boot from it if your
W7 machine is using a UEFI mainboard.

Indeed. But the problem is that the UEFI/Bios is now in 'Legacy' mode,
not UEFI and there is no way to change that : not with F1 (to enter
BIOS/UEFI, according tot the manual of the MSI CR70) and not with a Win8
instal disk (in the repair options that option disapeared).
So, my only option is to convert the GPT-disk (that, I found out with
Acronis Disk Director) to a 'normal' MBR disk,... if this is possible.

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Old February 22nd 15, 05:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Have you verified that the disk is not bad ?

The problem is that the UEFI/Bios is now in 'Legacy' mode, not UEFI and
there is no way to change that : not with F1 (to enter BIOS/UEFI,
according tot the manual of the MSI CR70) and not with a Win8 instal
disk (in the repair options that option disapeared).
So, my only option is to convert the GPT-disk (that, I found out with
Acronis Disk Director) to a 'normal' MBR disk,... if this is possible.
  #43  
Old February 22nd 15, 05:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Gene E. Bloch schreef op 21/02/2015 om 23:17:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:18:00 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:

I noticed the disk is a GPT disk.
Can i delete all partitions and install Windows 7 on a GPT disk??


GPT is just how it's formatted. There's nothing different about the
drive. Once it was a raw drive, just like all the others.

I found out that GPT-disk need a bios in UEFI mode.Indeed. But the
problem is that the UEFI/Bios is now in 'Legacy' mode, not UEFI and
there is no way to change that : not with F1 (to enter BIOS/UEFI,
according tot the manual of the MSI CR70) and not with a Win8 instal
disk (in the repair options that option disapeared).
So, my only option is to convert the GPT-disk to a 'normal' MBR disk,...
if this is possible.

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Old February 22nd 15, 05:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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We must truly be a pair of great minds - we posted shortened links to
the same How-To Geeks page at the same time.

Thanks Gene, and Stormin'Norman!

  #45  
Old February 22nd 15, 07:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Carpe Diem wrote:
If your W7 system is 64 bit architecture, you should be able to read a
functioning GPT disk. You will only be able to boot from it if your
W7 machine is using a UEFI mainboard.

Indeed. But the problem is that the UEFI/Bios is now in 'Legacy' mode,
not UEFI and there is no way to change that : not with F1 (to enter
BIOS/UEFI, according tot the manual of the MSI CR70) and not with a Win8
instal disk (in the repair options that option disapeared).
So, my only option is to convert the GPT-disk (that, I found out with
Acronis Disk Director) to a 'normal' MBR disk,... if this is possible.


If you have a Windows 8 installer DVD or a Windows 8 recovery console
boot CD (does not install anything), there is a "UEFI firmware settings button".
Maybe that'll flip it back ?

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

I got a reference to that page, from here.

( http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/#using_firmware )

Paul
 




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