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SOLVED !!!! - Logon impossible : no keyboard reaction
Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:38:10 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:41:47 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:10:47 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote: "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). I like the Einstein quote! I had not seen this previously. Leave it to Mr. Einstein to express, in plain language, the crux of Occam's razor. It sounds like a corollary of Occam's Razor, but when you unpack it you find it leads in the opposite direction. If Einstein really said or wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. Which is highly possible given that he disagreed strongly with the logical-positivist philosophers of his day. He said that they imposed too narrow restrictions on science, with their verification requirements. Ed Oh for the love of Mike.... Ed, you bring to mind two quotes widely attributed to Benjamin Franklin: 1. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do." -Benjamin Franklin 2. "Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." -Benjamin Franklin One attributed to Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -Plato And the best for last, attributed to Mark Twain: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain People who can't see right from wrong let people like Jimmy Savile do their thing. If only the good people of this world do nothing then the wicked will rule. A man with an MA in Philosophy is qualified to speak about philosophy. Kill filters, what a concept. You'll have to find some other citadel to storm, Norman. It seems that the citadel of Reason is beyond your grasp. Ed |
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SOLVED !!!! - Logon impossible : no keyboard reaction
... If Einstein really said or
wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. You are impossible... -- Carpe Diem "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). |
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Carpe Diem wrote:
... If Einstein really said or wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. You are impossible... Yeah, maybe. As others have said, your English is excellent. To be honest it's better than the average on Usenet, which makes me wonder at how you ended up with your "Gr" sig. You then selected the Einstein quote, and I handled it with all the academic pedantry I could muster. Which takes us, of course, well beyond normal usage. I feel at home there because I spent many years studying philosophy and linguistics, and so I can hold my own in any academic senior seminar. But (as you've put it so succinctly) such pedantry is not for normal usage. "Impossible" has one meaning in normal language; but a different one in logic. But look how it drew some people out into anger and frustration. I can understand that too. They're being invited into the higher summits of intellect, and that is for the few. But (believe you me) such inroads into language and reason are the norm with the few cognoscenti. Good luck, Ed |
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Carpe Diem wrote:
... If Einstein really said or wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. You are impossible... Something else has occurred to me in this context. Hold on to your roller-coaster harness because I'm off again. You sign yourself "Carpe Diem". Now, that is a quote from an old Augustan poet called Quintus Horatius Flaccus; very famous in his day and throughout all subsequent ages with Latin scholars. Dum loquimur, fugerit invida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. (While we're speaking, envious times will have sped away; seize the day, trusting as little as possible in the morrow.) More "impossibility" or an attempt to bring higher culture into everyday life? You see, some people wear a Latin motto as a badge; some even have a Latin motto tattoed on their body. But it's a badge only, it's classy and meant to impress rather than be investigated as to its meaning. What if I call "pretentious" those people who wear the badge merely for show without knowing what it means or its history? Are they really shallow people? Are they posers? Ed |
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on 02.27.2015, Ed Cryer supposed :
Stormin' Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:38:10 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:41:47 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 07:10:47 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote: "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). I like the Einstein quote! I had not seen this previously. Leave it to Mr. Einstein to express, in plain language, the crux of Occam's razor. It sounds like a corollary of Occam's Razor, but when you unpack it you find it leads in the opposite direction. If Einstein really said or wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. Which is highly possible given that he disagreed strongly with the logical-positivist philosophers of his day. He said that they imposed too narrow restrictions on science, with their verification requirements. Ed Oh for the love of Mike.... Ed, you bring to mind two quotes widely attributed to Benjamin Franklin: 1. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do." -Benjamin Franklin 2. "Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." -Benjamin Franklin One attributed to Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -Plato And the best for last, attributed to Mark Twain: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain People who can't see right from wrong let people like Jimmy Savile do their thing. If only the good people of this world do nothing then the wicked will rule. A man with an MA in Philosophy is qualified to speak about philosophy. Kill filters, what a concept. You'll have to find some other citadel to storm, Norman. It seems that the citadel of Reason is beyond your grasp. Reason dictates you are either under medicated or over medicated. I suspect it is the former. |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:29:26 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:
... If Einstein really said or wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. You are impossible... I was about to say +1 when you said that you thought Ed didn't understand the Einstein quote, but then I decided to just keep my mouth shut. But as I read more of Ed's responses (including his two replies to this post of yours) I decided to chime in after all. So here's my +1 to both of your posts :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Reason dictates you are either under medicated or over medicated. I
suspect it is the former. LOL -- Carpe Diem "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). |
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Ed Cryer schreef op 27/02/2015 om 19:57:
Carpe Diem wrote: ... If Einstein really said or wrote this, then I can only assume he was being ironical. You are impossible... Yeah, maybe. As others have said, your English is excellent. To be honest it's better than the average on Usenet, which makes me wonder at how you ended up with your "Gr" sig. Well,... thank you! "Gr" is (in Flemish, or Dutch, the abbreviation of "Groeten" (English : Greetings). We are polite people ;-)) But I learned that this is unusual in NGs. So I removed it from my sig. Good luck, The same to you. -- Carpe Diem "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). |
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You sign yourself "Carpe Diem". I'm 100% aware of the meaning of "Carpe Diem". But thanks for the explanation... -- Carpe Diem "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). |
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But as I read more of Ed's responses (including his two replies to this
post of yours) I decided to chime in after all. "To chime in" is new to me (as an expression). "To chime", I think I understand (bells ringing?) But "to chime in" ??? So here's my +1 to both of your posts :-) Dangerous for my ego ! -- Carpe Diem "Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler" (Albert Einstein). |
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Carpe Diem wrote:
But as I read more of Ed's responses (including his two replies to this post of yours) I decided to chime in after all. "To chime in" is new to me (as an expression). "To chime", I think I understand (bells ringing?) But "to chime in" ??? So here's my +1 to both of your posts :-) Dangerous for my ego ! Don't worry about it. Your written English is not only excellent but it has the effect of encouraging others to try harder. I think that's why I pulled out all the stops with my tirades above. I'm no longer a teenager, but I haven't abandoned all my ideals yet, and I hope I never will. Ed |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:36:06 +0100, Carpe Diem
wrote: "Gr" is (in Flemish, or Dutch, the abbreviation of "Groeten" (English : Greetings). We are polite people ;-)) But I learned that this is unusual in NGs. So I removed it from my sig. Unusual not just in NGs, but in any form of English communication. You might begin a letter with "Greetings," but never end one that way. |
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SOLVED !!!! - Logon impossible : no keyboard reaction
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:42:06 +0100, Carpe Diem
wrote: "To chime in" is new to me (as an expression). "To chime", I think I understand (bells ringing?) Yes. But "to chime in" ??? "Chime in" is another colloquial expression for something like "add my voice to yours." |
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SOLVED !!!! - Logon impossible : no keyboard reaction
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:42:06 +0100, Carpe Diem wrote:
But as I read more of Ed's responses (including his two replies to this post of yours) I decided to chime in after all. "To chime in" is new to me (as an expression). "To chime", I think I understand (bells ringing?) But "to chime in" ??? With Ken and Norman's answers you don't need mine :-) .... -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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