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  #16  
Old March 15th 15, 12:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 00:10:21 -0000, The Scream wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" escreveu na mensagem
...

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston‫" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream"
wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to
show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type


What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...


We can do page down. Counted the first 15 Items, then did page down 20 times
(14 items x 20), then counted more 8 items, I guess this windows 8 File
Explorer has about 303 columns to show in details view.


Thanks, now I know :-)

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  #17  
Old March 15th 15, 01:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 12:28:20 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 11:08:10 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.


Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?



You made me count them! 301, if I've counted correctly. The same as
Windows 7, I assume.


I *thought* I counted 303 in Windows 7, but I wasn't sure enough to say
that, so I fudged with "just over 300". :-)

But I also noticed that "Status" is in the list twice, Is it the same
in Windows 7?


You made me look again. I didn't see any duplicates at all.

  #18  
Old March 15th 15, 01:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 00:10:21 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" escreveu na mensagem
...

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream"
wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to
show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type


What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...


We can do page down. Counted the first 15 Items, then did page down 20 times
(14 items x 20), then counted more 8 items, I guess this windows 8 File
Explorer has about 303 columns to show in details view.


So, are we amending the claim that 8 has a lot more columns? ;-)

  #19  
Old March 15th 15, 01:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type


What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...


There's a scroll bar in the usual place. Grab it and pull it down? :-)

  #20  
Old March 15th 15, 01:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 11:08:10 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.


Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?



You made me count them! 301, if I've counted correctly. The same as
Windows 7, I assume.

But I also noticed that "Status" is in the list twice, Is it the same
in Windows 7?

Same here on Win8 - two Status selectable columns in the 'More' list.

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  #21  
Old March 15th 15, 01:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 20:15:30 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type


What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...


There's a scroll bar in the usual place. Grab it and pull it down? :-)


*Now* you tell me!

I like The Scream's Page Down idea much better, since I won't miss a few
entries between pages by scrolling too far.

Your method might be OK if I knew what I was looking for, but if I don't
know the name of what I'm seeking, it could fail as above. Really a case
of getting lost in the cracks...

Furthermore, if I do know the name, pressing its first letter or two
will get me there much more directly.

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  #22  
Old March 15th 15, 01:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.


Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type



There are way more than 200 that I'm not interested in. But on the
other hand, I don't object to the choices being there for someone who
might want them.

  #23  
Old March 15th 15, 01:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling..



??? Surely you know you don't have to scroll! Just drag the
whatever-you-call-the-thing on the scroll bar down.

  #24  
Old March 15th 15, 04:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:27:48 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 20:15:30 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type

What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...


There's a scroll bar in the usual place. Grab it and pull it down? :-)


*Now* you tell me!

I like The Scream's Page Down idea much better, since I won't miss a few
entries between pages by scrolling too far.

Your method might be OK if I knew what I was looking for, but if I don't
know the name of what I'm seeking, it could fail as above. Really a case
of getting lost in the cracks...

Furthermore, if I do know the name, pressing its first letter or two
will get me there much more directly.


Yep, all of those are great ideas. :-)

  #25  
Old March 15th 15, 08:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 20:15:30 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type

What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...


There's a scroll bar in the usual place. Grab it and pull it down? :-)


*Now* you tell me!

I like The Scream's Page Down idea much better, since I won't miss a few
entries between pages by scrolling too far.

Your method might be OK if I knew what I was looking for, but if I don't
know the name of what I'm seeking, it could fail as above. Really a case
of getting lost in the cracks...

Furthermore, if I do know the name, pressing its first letter or two
will get me there much more directly.

You could just select all of them for every folder and never have to use
the list again....though it could take forever scroll left and right to
find the column you think you might need.

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  #26  
Old March 15th 15, 08:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
...winston‫
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type



There are way more than 200 that I'm not interested in. But on the
other hand, I don't object to the choices being there for someone who
might want them.


Afaics imo there are quite a few that nobody might want the exception
being some tester in a basement room at MSFT that used them at one time
and only one time.

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  #27  
Old March 16th 15, 08:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:28:12 -0700, "...winston‫" wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 20:15:30 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:51:02 -0700, "...winston?" wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 22:58:12 -0000, "The Scream" wrote:

Noticed just today that W8's File Explorer has a lot more columns to show in
detail view than previous versions of Windows.

Windows 7 has just over 300 possible columns. How many does Win 8 have?

Like Win7 more than one too many.
- who uses Auto Summary, Data rate, or Perceived type

What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...

There's a scroll bar in the usual place. Grab it and pull it down? :-)


*Now* you tell me!

I like The Scream's Page Down idea much better, since I won't miss a few
entries between pages by scrolling too far.

Your method might be OK if I knew what I was looking for, but if I don't
know the name of what I'm seeking, it could fail as above. Really a case
of getting lost in the cracks...

Furthermore, if I do know the name, pressing its first letter or two
will get me there much more directly.

You could just select all of them for every folder and never have to use
the list again....though it could take forever scroll left and right to
find the column you think you might need.


Best idea yet!

As soon as I stop laughing hysterically, I'll go ahead and implement it.

But you just led to a horrifying thought: suppose Microsoft makes that
the new non-configurable default?

They already do terrible tings with Android KitKat and later devices
over USB, where they *always* open the files in icon mode with columns
configured for video clips, which I am *never* looking at.

Hate hate hate...

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  #28  
Old March 16th 15, 08:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:56:11 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling..


??? Surely you know you don't have to scroll! Just drag the
whatever-you-call-the-thing on the scroll bar down.


The thumb (but I often call it the elevator) on the scroll bar is a
rather sloppy way to navigate, but it's true, I had forgotten about it.

See my reply to Char nearby.

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  #29  
Old March 16th 15, 09:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:35:48 -0700, "...winston‫" wrote:

[SNIP for brevity]

You could just select all of them for every folder and never have to use
the list again....though it could take forever scroll left and right to
find the column you think you might need.


Best idea yet!

As soon as I stop laughing hysterically, I'll go ahead and implement it.

But you just led to a horrifying thought: suppose Microsoft makes that
the new non-configurable default?

They already do terrible tings with Android KitKat and later devices
over USB, where they *always* open the files in icon mode with columns
configured for video clips, which I am *never* looking at.

Hate hate hate...

It could be worse (in Win10) - possibilities
- no options to review before and after downloading but before
installing Windows Updates


Try as I might, I can't figure out how that & the sequalae are a
response to what I wrote...

[SNIP for brevity]

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  #30  
Old March 16th 15, 11:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:51:36 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 18:56:11 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:56:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

What I really hate is that the one I want will be #299, and I don't see
a way to get there other than scrolling...and scrolling...and
scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling...and scrolling..


??? Surely you know you don't have to scroll! Just drag the
whatever-you-call-the-thing on the scroll bar down.


The thumb (but I often call it the elevator) on the scroll bar is a
rather sloppy way to navigate, but it's true,



g I call it neither, but I know what you mean.


Sloppy? I wouldn't call it sloppy either. I do it often.


I had forgotten about it.



OK.



 




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