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  #16  
Old June 23rd 15, 05:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?

On 6/22/2015 11:43 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything
else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.


When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites
install successfully ?

Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread
with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file
intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin
for later reference.

win10fix_full.bat

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

And that script is checking for the two updates, before
trying stuff.

You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary
executables for making the offer. But it checks an
awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal
with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid
key, so I couldn't get the offer from it.



I installed 583 manually. The batfile stuff is over my head and I don't
want to screw anything up on that computer. I found the same thing that
you did here but shied away from running it.

http://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...tml#post253112

I also read there would be "rollouts" for the W10 offer after it was
officially released.




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  #17  
Old June 23rd 15, 05:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?

On 6/23/2015 12:16 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 11:43 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check
your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything
else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.


When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites
install successfully ?

Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread
with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file
intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin
for later reference.

win10fix_full.bat

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

And that script is checking for the two updates, before
trying stuff.

You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary
executables for making the offer. But it checks an
awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal
with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid
key, so I couldn't get the offer from it.



I installed 583 manually. The batfile stuff is over my head and I don't
want to screw anything up on that computer. I found the same thing that
you did here but shied away from running it.

http://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...tml#post253112


I also read there would be "rollouts" for the W10 offer after it was
officially released.


Sorry, I didn't answer your question. I don't know what "prerequisites"
are required. It has 322 updates installed and no failed updates. There
are 44 optional updates sitting there. Like I said, I found KB2952664
under optional updates and installed it. According to Winston you only
need KB3035583 and KB2952664 installed.

  #18  
Old June 23rd 15, 08:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
. . .winston
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Posts: 1,345
Default Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited toregister for Windows 10?

Ron wrote:
On 6/23/2015 12:16 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 11:43 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check
your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything
else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed
583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.


When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites
install successfully ?

Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread
with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file
intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin
for later reference.

win10fix_full.bat

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

And that script is checking for the two updates, before
trying stuff.

You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary
executables for making the offer. But it checks an
awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal
with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid
key, so I couldn't get the offer from it.



I installed 583 manually. The batfile stuff is over my head and I don't
want to screw anything up on that computer. I found the same thing that
you did here but shied away from running it.

http://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...tml#post253112



I also read there would be "rollouts" for the W10 offer after it was
officially released.


Sorry, I didn't answer your question. I don't know what "prerequisites"
are required. It has 322 updates installed and no failed updates. There
are 44 optional updates sitting there. Like I said, I found KB2952664
under optional updates and installed it. According to Winston you only
need KB3035583 and KB2952664 installed.


That was on the assumption that you were fully updated and that those
two 'were installed'.

Since you 44 optional updates it might be prudent to look at each of
those in detail.



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  #19  
Old June 23rd 15, 12:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Posts: 18,275
Default Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?

Ron wrote:
On 6/23/2015 12:16 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 11:43 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check
your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything
else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed
583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.


When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites
install successfully ?

Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread
with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file
intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin
for later reference.

win10fix_full.bat

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

And that script is checking for the two updates, before
trying stuff.

You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary
executables for making the offer. But it checks an
awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal
with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid
key, so I couldn't get the offer from it.



I installed 583 manually. The batfile stuff is over my head and I don't
want to screw anything up on that computer. I found the same thing that
you did here but shied away from running it.

http://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...tml#post253112



I also read there would be "rollouts" for the W10 offer after it was
officially released.


Sorry, I didn't answer your question. I don't know what "prerequisites"
are required. It has 322 updates installed and no failed updates. There
are 44 optional updates sitting there. Like I said, I found KB2952664
under optional updates and installed it. According to Winston you only
need KB3035583 and KB2952664 installed.


If you read the batch file (it's just text), you
can see a reference to those two KB numbers as well.

Pastebin is a way to distribute text to people, without
clogging up a USENET posting.

There are two things you can do with a batch file.

1) Read it, to get hints about what is important.
2) Run it, if your examination of the contents, looks safe.
I didn't see anything particularly alarming, in a quick
skim of the contents.

Paul
  #20  
Old June 23rd 15, 03:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Posts: 507
Default Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?

On 6/23/2015 3:38 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/23/2015 12:16 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 11:43 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.

Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows
10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.)

How can I get the other computer to be invited to
pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with
no problem.)

The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows
Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory.
I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version.

The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember
if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional
and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have
had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit,
or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7.



Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check
your
Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything
else.

Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop.

I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it.

Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered.

Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade
icon?

664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed
583
and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop.

Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it?


You could try installing IE11.

There is apparently a difference between OS versions,
where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here,
I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing),
and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing
the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it
could actually install without downloading a gigabyte
of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up
to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively
self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date,
IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you
what packages it is getting.


IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7.


When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites
install successfully ?

Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread
with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file
intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin
for later reference.

win10fix_full.bat

http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG

And that script is checking for the two updates, before
trying stuff.

You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary
executables for making the offer. But it checks an
awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal
with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid
key, so I couldn't get the offer from it.


I installed 583 manually. The batfile stuff is over my head and I don't
want to screw anything up on that computer. I found the same thing that
you did here but shied away from running it.

http://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...tml#post253112




I also read there would be "rollouts" for the W10 offer after it was
officially released.


Sorry, I didn't answer your question. I don't know what "prerequisites"
are required. It has 322 updates installed and no failed updates. There
are 44 optional updates sitting there. Like I said, I found KB2952664
under optional updates and installed it. According to Winston you only
need KB3035583 and KB2952664 installed.


That was on the assumption that you were fully updated and that those
two 'were installed'.

Since you 44 optional updates it might be prudent to look at each of
those in detail.



I *am* fully updated AFA important updates. I have no idea what updates
are needed for W10 other than the 2 you listed. Hell, I wasn't even
offered KB3035583. I had to manually install it.
  #21  
Old June 23rd 15, 05:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ron
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Default Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?

On 6/23/2015 3:38 AM, . . .winston wrote:

That was on the assumption that you were fully updated and that those
two 'were installed'.

Since you 44 optional updates it might be prudent to look at each of
those in detail.



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