Where are parameters for the window a bat file opens

On 30/09/2015 13:07, Todd Vargo wrote:
I'm assuming that you mean that there are no scrollbars or border or
titlebar visible, Todd.

Nothing to assume. I said, "full screen".


The microsoft link says it's not possible on Windows 7 - but there could
be a video driver which you are using which supports it.

That info is misleading. Its intended for Vista and Win 7 64-Bit users.

The document states 32 bit.

Microsoft cocks up stuff in their tech data too, but I confirm that it was
on a 32 bit Win 7 and 32 bit Win 8.1 system and neither will enter full
screen mode.

Can you please advise which video card you are using and driver release
version?

Its the Dell Dimension 3000 on board video, and the driver is
Microsoft's Standard VGA Adaptor installed by Windows 7 setup. Nothing
fancy. No Dell drivers installed.

You probably don't want to play in this way - but if you loaded Dell
drivers, would it still go full screen? A full image backup is the only
safe way to test, and get back to where you are.

Please confirm that you tested in a non-virtual, 32-Bit installation.

Yes. Ditto in Vista 32 bit physical machine, unless I'm becoming senile.

On 30/09/2015 13:17, foxidrive wrote:
I confirm that it was
on a 32 bit Win 7 and 32 bit Win 8.1 system and neither will enter full
screen mode.

Please confirm that you tested in a non-virtual, 32-Bit installation.

Yes. Ditto in Vista 32 bit physical machine, unless I'm becoming senile.

I had some time to play... fresh Vista install and fresh Win 7 install,
and Windows 8.1 install.

http://astronomy.comoj.com/windows-f...een/index.html

On 2015-09-30 01:21, foxidrive wrote:

On 30/09/2015 13:17, foxidrive wrote:
I confirm that it was
on a 32 bit Win 7 and 32 bit Win 8.1 system and neither will enter full
screen mode.

Please confirm that you tested in a non-virtual, 32-Bit installation.

Yes. Ditto in Vista 32 bit physical machine, unless I'm becoming senile.

I had some time to play... fresh Vista install and fresh Win 7 install,
and Windows 8.1 install.

http://astronomy.comoj.com/windows-f...een/index.html

At least you get an error message! No amount of Alt-Entering will do
anything at all on my Win7 laptop (64bits). Still, I learned today that
even if, as I had planned, I multi-boot a Win7-32 for DOS purposes, I
won't be able to go full-screen, boooo :-(

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On 1/10/2015 11:59, B00ze wrote:
http://astronomy.comoj.com/windows-f...een/index.html

At least you get an error message! No amount of Alt-Entering will do
anything at all on my Win7 laptop (64bits).

My Win 7 64 bit does exactly the same - nothing.

Still, I learned today that
even if, as I had planned, I multi-boot a Win7-32 for DOS purposes, I
won't be able to go full-screen, boooo :-(

It's clear from Todd's experience, and implied in the Microsoft support
link, that if you load a certain kind of video driver then it will enter
full screen - in the 32 bit version at least.

On 30/09/2015 13:17, foxidrive wrote:

Nothing to assume. I said, "full screen".

The microsoft link says it's not possible on Windows 7 - but there could
be a video driver which you are using which supports it.

That info is misleading. Its intended for Vista and Win 7 64-Bit users.

The document states 32 bit.


Todd, I guess you're either too busy to reply to the thread or maybe you
think I was being argumentative for the hell of it to your last comment.

Read the paste here. The only place it mentions 64 bit is to say that the
article doesn't apply to 64 bit because they can't run 16 bit programs.

SYMPTOMS
You may find that some 16-bit DOS-based programs do not run in full-screen
mode in Windows Vista and in Windows 7. You cannot set a Command Prompt
(CMD) window to display in full-screen mode.

Note This symptom only applies to 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and of
Windows 7. 16-bit programs are not supported on 64-bit versions of Windows
Vista or of Windows 7.

On 10/1/2015 2:02 PM, foxidrive wrote:
On 30/09/2015 13:17, foxidrive wrote:

Nothing to assume. I said, "full screen".

The microsoft link says it's not possible on Windows 7 - but there
could
be a video driver which you are using which supports it.

That info is misleading. Its intended for Vista and Win 7 64-Bit users.

The document states 32 bit.


Todd, I guess you're either too busy to reply to the thread or maybe you
think I was being argumentative for the hell of it to your last comment.

Read the paste here. The only place it mentions 64 bit is to say that
the article doesn't apply to 64 bit because they can't run 16 bit programs.

SYMPTOMS
You may find that some 16-bit DOS-based programs do not run in
full-screen mode in Windows Vista and in Windows 7. You cannot set a
Command Prompt (CMD) window to display in full-screen mode.

Note This symptom only applies to 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and
of Windows 7. 16-bit programs are not supported on 64-bit versions of
Windows Vista or of Windows 7.

Sorry, time limitations called me away in the middle of composing a
response. Yes, I have read the page, and understands what it says.
However, full screen works on my installation, hence, my "misleading"
comment. Microsoft's KB's are not always 100% accurate you know.

Not only does full screen work for me on Win 7, I can create shortcuts
to open cmd in full screen mode as well. This is contrary to the KB page
info. It would be nice if Microsoft provided a list of known programs
that do not run in full screen mode so those claims can be confirmed.

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On 3/10/2015 13:02, Todd Vargo wrote:
Sorry, time limitations called me away in the middle of composing a
response.

No worries.

Yes, I have read the page, and understands what it says.
However, full screen works on my installation, hence, my "misleading"
comment. Microsoft's KB's are not always 100% accurate you know.

It's not misleading because you will also know that the page indicates that
it is a video driver change that causes it to happen, and that it can be
worked around.

On 10/3/2015 4:23 AM, foxidrive wrote:
On 3/10/2015 13:02, Todd Vargo wrote:
Sorry, time limitations called me away in the middle of composing a
response.

No worries.

Yes, I have read the page, and understands what it says.
However, full screen works on my installation, hence, my "misleading"
comment. Microsoft's KB's are not always 100% accurate you know.

It's not misleading because you will also know that the page indicates
that it is a video driver change that causes it to happen, and that it
can be worked around.

I did not change to an XP video driver. Its the one that Win 7
installed. It also says "You cannot set a Command Prompt (CMD) window to
display in full-screen mode.", but I can without making any OS
modifications or driver substitutions. Because the page contains a
mixture of information that contradict with my installation and user
experience, we will just have to agree to disagree with our opinions of
the accuracy of the page content.

On 4/10/2015 05:45, Todd Vargo wrote:

I did not change to an XP video driver. Its the one that Win 7
installed. It also says "You cannot set a Command Prompt (CMD) window to
display in full-screen mode.", but I can without making any OS
modifications or driver substitutions.

Yes Todd, and I don't want to argue without any point.

I'm not sure how closely you deal with hardware - but it's clear that the
video subsystem in your computer is of a type that made Windows load the
type of drivers which allowed you to switch to full screen. The Dell
machine you have is a 'speshul' hardware combination.

Nobody else cares enough to comment on how their Win 7 32 bit behaves so
that'll just remain the way I interpret the results, as a hardware engineer.