Is 7 any good?

"Bullwinkle's news" wrote in message
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"Annie Woughman" wrote in message
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"RustY ©" wrote in message
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I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is
anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully].

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away
with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet
and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites.
Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater
plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of
the rounded one in Vista.

There is a newsreader built right into Windows Live Mail.

Click on "Go" and it tells you right on it that you can go to Newsgroups.

You still have to set it up depening on the newsgroup isp you are
focussing on.

Set it up the same way you set them up on your previous OS mail client.

Regards,



Is it any good at catching news spam that Windows Mail will not catch? For
example, is it possible to set up a rule to tell it to delete any news posts
that even mention a web page at a web site that I frequently see mentioned
in spam , but never in on-topic posts?

Robert

A Annie Woughman se le ha ocurrido que:

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away with
Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet and I
refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. Also, it
isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but
now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one
in Vista.

Try MesNews.

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Un saludo,
Alberto

"Robert Miles" wrote in message
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"Bullwinkle's news" wrote in message
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"Annie Woughman" wrote in message
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"RustY ©" wrote in message
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I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is
anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully].

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away
with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet
and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different
websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in
the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon
instead of the rounded one in Vista.

There is a newsreader built right into Windows Live Mail.

Click on "Go" and it tells you right on it that you can go to Newsgroups.

You still have to set it up depening on the newsgroup isp you are
focussing on.

Set it up the same way you set them up on your previous OS mail client.

Regards,



Is it any good at catching news spam that Windows Mail will not catch?
For example, is it possible to set up a rule to tell it to delete any news
posts that even mention a web page at a web site that I frequently see
mentioned in spam , but never in on-topic posts?

Robert

The "Rules" are the same as OE and WM.
Some security will be better as they (MS) Can update with out the user
having to get update fixes

In article , ks
says...

I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone
running anything bigger on it [successfully].

Works fine on all of our laptops and on our Dual CPU system.

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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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"RustY ©" schreef in bericht
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I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is
anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully].

I'm afraid I have to say that Win7 is not much better than Vista.
Personally i think that XP Pro is the last decent OS Microsoft
has released.
Fritz Deneken

Who ever told you that is full of crap. I'm running a Quad Core and it is
very good.

"RustY ©" wrote in message
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I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is
anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully].

"Leviatan" wrote in message
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A Annie Woughman se le ha ocurrido que:

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away
with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet
and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites.
Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater
plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of
the rounded one in Vista.

Try MesNews.

--
Un saludo,
Alberto



I started a discussion over on one of the XP groups a
short while ago about what we would see machine
manufacturers package with Win 7 once it came out,
and to the degree that there was any consensus,
the choice was Thunderbird. Make of this what
you will.

**SNIP**

I downloaded and installed Windows Live Mail for mail and newsgroups.
It works fine.
:-)
Grenou

I agree. The interface is very similar to OE, so the learning curve was
nil. Plus I was able to export my address book/contacts from Vista's
Windows Mail and import it into Live, along with my message and news group
rules that take care of a lot of the spam my ISP doesn't catch.

All in all, I like Win7. I upgraded my Vista notebook to Win7 Home Premium
32-bit, and definitely will NOT be going back. I find it faster and less
"heavy" feeling than Vista is. Not sure if I'll go to Win7 on my XP
desktop yet. Seems like a lot of work no matter which method is used, and
I like XP anyhow.

SC Tom

Ah, just the information I was looking for. I wonder though, can the most
recent version of OE be downloaded to a pc running windows 7?
Or likewise, can Windows Live work on a system running XP. Both questions
are pertenent to my sidiation...as I'm running my old computer beside my new
one for awhile.

"IK" wrote in message
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**SNIP**

I downloaded and installed Windows Live Mail for mail and newsgroups.
It works fine.
:-)
Grenou

I agree. The interface is very similar to OE, so the learning curve was
nil. Plus I was able to export my address book/contacts from Vista's
Windows Mail and import it into Live, along with my message and news
group rules that take care of a lot of the spam my ISP doesn't catch.

All in all, I like Win7. I upgraded my Vista notebook to Win7 Home
Premium 32-bit, and definitely will NOT be going back. I find it faster
and less "heavy" feeling than Vista is. Not sure if I'll go to Win7 on my
XP desktop yet. Seems like a lot of work no matter which method is used,
and I like XP anyhow.

SC Tom

Ah, just the information I was looking for. I wonder though, can the most
recent version of OE be downloaded to a pc running windows 7?
Or likewise, can Windows Live work on a system running XP. Both questions
are pertenent to my sidiation...as I'm running my old computer beside my
new one for awhile.

Most components of Live will work in XP ( see he
http://windowslive.com/systemrequirements ).
OE will not work in Win7.

SC Tom

"Annie Woughman" wrote in message
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"Grenou" wrote in message
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"Annie Woughman" wrote in message
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"RustY ©" wrote in message
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I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is
anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully].

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away
with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet
and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different
websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in
the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon
instead of the rounded one in Vista.

I downloaded and installed Windows Live Mail for mail and newsgroups.
It works fine.
:-)
Grenou
Thanks for the heads up. I am now posting from Windows Live Mail


Well done :-)

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:38:21 -0800, "Annie Woughman"
wrote:

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader.



That doesn't bother me at all, for two reasons:

1. Not coming with a newsreader gives each person the opportunity to
choose whatever newsreader he prefers. I'm against operating systems
coming with application software (whether a newsreader or anything
else) since doing so makes it much more likely that many people will
use what they are given, rather than explore the alternatives and
choose what's best for them.

2. My personal preference is Forte Agent 5.0. I've used Agent for
several years, with Windows 7 as well as with earlier Windows
versions. I recommend that you try it, as well as the many others
available, and choose what *you* like best.


Win7 did away with
Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet


??? Then you haven't looked very hard. A Google search will get you
many alternatives to try.


and I
refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites.


I'm with you entirely there. I greatly dislike using web-based forums
instead of newsreaders.


Also, it
isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but
now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded
one in Vista.


Your choice of course, but each of our views as to what is "pretty" is
not necessarily the same. Personally, I don't find either Windows
Vista or Windows 7 to be prettier than the other, nor would I care a
lot if I did.

--
Ken Blake
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Vadim Igorev wrote:
Fritz Deneken wrote:

Personally i think that XP Pro is the last decent OS Microsoft
has released.
I think the same, even that Vista after recent upgrade runs much faster,
there was no better OS by Microsoft than XP Pro, it's all downhill from
there for them and for us.
You got that right and why I still run XP.

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"Fritz Deneken" wrote:

"RustY ©" schreef in bericht
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I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is
anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully].

I'm afraid I have to say that Win7 is not much better than Vista.
Personally i think that XP Pro is the last decent OS Microsoft
has released.
Fritz Deneken

Unfortunately I'm gradually realizing the same.
Oh well, M$ can use the income.

Hi Ken - Sorry to butt in and top-post, but...

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:19:21 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:38:21 -0800, "Annie Woughman"
wrote:

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader.



That doesn't bother me at all, for two reasons:

1. Not coming with a newsreader gives each person the opportunity to
choose whatever newsreader he prefers. I'm against operating systems
coming with application software (whether a newsreader or anything
else) since doing so makes it much more likely that many people will
use what they are given, rather than explore the alternatives and
choose what's best for them.

2. My personal preference is Forte Agent 5.0. I've used Agent for
several years, with Windows 7 as well as with earlier Windows
versions. I recommend that you try it, as well as the many others
available, and choose what *you* like best.

KEN:

About Agent 5.0: that's what I use currently - on a WinXP Pro system I
built. Specs: 8Gb DDR2 (will utilize this when Win7 gets loaded), AMD
Phenom II X4 940, WD 300GB VelociRaptor (along with three WD TeraByte
SATA 'data' drives), ASUS M4A79 Deluxe Mbd, Radeon HD 4650 & two
external eSATA drives. AntiVirus - Kaspersky Internet Security 2009
(upgraded to 2010 then ran an update which went terribly wrong & then
had to go back to the 2009 version) & MalwareBytes Anti-malware.

Since upgrading from Agent 4.2 to 5.0 though, I've found that it's
almost impossible to do anything else on my system while Agent is
downloading binary files - it seems to take a large percentage of CPU
time away from anything else that I try to run. I have the Windows 7
Pro Upgrade (purchased 64-bit EDU version from DigitalRiver for $30)
and plan on using Gnome Partition Editor to make room on the 300GB
drive for it - for dual boot. I have downloaded all required Win7
64-bit drivers to support my hardware. My question: in your opinion,
will this setup work? And do you think Windows 7 will handle Agent 5.0
better than XP - without allowing Agent to hog the CPU and slow things
to a crawl? I do still have the 4.2 version of Agent and could try it.
Also, should I set my motherboard for AHCI to load Win7 - it's now set
to IDE (compatable) mode - or just leave it alone?

Again, sorry to intrude. I probably should've just started a new
thread. Thanx in advance for your help.

NRJ

Win7 did away with
Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet


??? Then you haven't looked very hard. A Google search will get you
many alternatives to try.


and I
refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites.


I'm with you entirely there. I greatly dislike using web-based forums
instead of newsreaders.


Also, it
isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but
now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded
one in Vista.


Your choice of course, but each of our views as to what is "pretty" is
not necessarily the same. Personally, I don't find either Windows
Vista or Windows 7 to be prettier than the other, nor would I care a
lot if I did.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:41:36 -0500, Navin R. Johnson
wrote:

Hi Ken - Sorry to butt in and top-post, but...


Not a problem.


On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:19:21 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:38:21 -0800, "Annie Woughman"
wrote:

My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader.



That doesn't bother me at all, for two reasons:

1. Not coming with a newsreader gives each person the opportunity to
choose whatever newsreader he prefers. I'm against operating systems
coming with application software (whether a newsreader or anything
else) since doing so makes it much more likely that many people will
use what they are given, rather than explore the alternatives and
choose what's best for them.

2. My personal preference is Forte Agent 5.0. I've used Agent for
several years, with Windows 7 as well as with earlier Windows
versions. I recommend that you try it, as well as the many others
available, and choose what *you* like best.

KEN:

About Agent 5.0: that's what I use currently - on a WinXP Pro system I
built. Specs: 8Gb DDR2 (will utilize this when Win7 gets loaded), AMD
Phenom II X4 940, WD 300GB VelociRaptor (along with three WD TeraByte
SATA 'data' drives), ASUS M4A79 Deluxe Mbd, Radeon HD 4650 & two
external eSATA drives. AntiVirus - Kaspersky Internet Security 2009
(upgraded to 2010 then ran an update which went terribly wrong & then
had to go back to the 2009 version) & MalwareBytes Anti-malware.

Since upgrading from Agent 4.2 to 5.0 though, I've found that it's
almost impossible to do anything else on my system while Agent is
downloading binary files - it seems to take a large percentage of CPU
time away from anything else that I try to run.


I have no experience with binary newsgroups, so I can't agree or
disagree with that. But I can tell that I've never had such an
experience with text newsgroups.


I have the Windows 7
Pro Upgrade (purchased 64-bit EDU version from DigitalRiver for $30)
and plan on using Gnome Partition Editor to make room on the 300GB
drive for it - for dual boot. I have downloaded all required Win7
64-bit drivers to support my hardware. My question: in your opinion,
will this setup work? And do you think Windows 7 will handle Agent 5.0
better than XP - without allowing Agent to hog the CPU and slow things
to a crawl? I do still have the 4.2 version of Agent and could try it.
Also, should I set my motherboard for AHCI to load Win7 - it's now set
to IDE (compatable) mode - or just leave it alone?


Sorry, I can't comment about binary newsgroups, but my experience with
text newsgroups in Agent 5.0 in both XP and Windows 7 has been fine.



Again, sorry to intrude. I probably should've just started a new
thread. Thanx in advance for your help.

NRJ

Win7 did away with
Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet


??? Then you haven't looked very hard. A Google search will get you
many alternatives to try.


and I
refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites.


I'm with you entirely there. I greatly dislike using web-based forums
instead of newsreaders.


Also, it
isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but
now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded
one in Vista.


Your choice of course, but each of our views as to what is "pretty" is
not necessarily the same. Personally, I don't find either Windows
Vista or Windows 7 to be prettier than the other, nor would I care a
lot if I did.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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