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Locked out of windows 8.1
I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password.
Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
Fred wrote:
I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. Utilman hack. http://reboot.pro/topic/17872-reset-...arty-software/ "The Offline NT Password and Registry Editor, for example, is a tiny, Linux-based tool that can blank a password in fewer steps and much less time. " http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ So that's a couple ideas. Note that when you find ideas like this, they could be invalidated at any time. For example, the transition to Windows 8.1 might have blocked one of these methods, so you cannot assume any crusty old web page is always accurate and up-to-date. [ Always back up the hard drive contents, before trying anything really nasty. Just in case one of your experiments goes wrong. I would probably do a backup before attempting to flatten a password, as I've never done it before, and lack the experience. ] ******* On a business laptop, you can use a BIOS password to protect the computer. Unlike a consumer laptop, where removing the CMOS CR2032 and the main battery pack, causes the BIOS password to be cleared, a business laptop uses a 2KB EEPROM to store the password. And cheesy defeat methods don't work. You need to contact the factory to have those reset. There is a guy in Eastern Europe who made a "lead chip" for the EEPROM, and provides instructs for defeating that password, but he's disappeared. Since the Windows password is so easy to flatten, a business user might use the laptop BIOS password as a second line of defense. ******* For Windows passwords, the general principle is that it is easy to "flatten" the password. Say you had a teenage son, and wanted to enter his computing device in a clandestine manner. Flattening the password is easy - but now the problem is, the next time your son tries to log in, the password is wrong. And he's locked out. He might suspect something... Password "cracking" is a different subject. At one time, you could use "rainbow tables", and various people would provide means for brute-forcing passwords. So that's another avenue, if you wish to preserve the current owners password, and break into their computer as desired. Of course, the "last accessed" file system feature, could show the victim they're being observed. Good luck, Paul |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On 2/18/2016 2:42 AM, Fred wrote:
I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. While I can not help you with the password recovery problem, I can tell you what I did to prevent the loss of the password. First I am the principal user of the computer and my wife occasionally uses it. Using a Notepad I created a documents with my name, address, etc, and my password. I then did a screen print, and cropped the image to just above information. I then saved it as a jpg. In PC Settings, Accounts I changed the picture on the opening page to the above JPG. Now the first screen that shows when the password is requested is my contact information and the password to access the computer. This is also my Microsoft account password, which I never use and if it were not there would be forgotten. This obviously would not work if a person were a security fanatic, or the computer was used with multiple accounts. |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On 2/18/2016 9:48 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-02-18 09:39, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 2/18/2016 2:42 AM, Fred wrote: I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. While I can not help you with the password recovery problem, I can tell you what I did to prevent the loss of the password. First I am the principal user of the computer and my wife occasionally uses it. Using a Notepad I created a documents with my name, address, etc, and my password. I then did a screen print, and cropped the image to just above information. I then saved it as a jpg. In PC Settings, Accounts I changed the picture on the opening page to the above JPG. Now the first screen that shows when the password is requested is my contact information and the password to access the computer. This is also my Microsoft account password, which I never use and if it were not there would be forgotten. This obviously would not work if a person were a security fanatic, or the computer was used with multiple accounts. So why have a password at all? Because I had to create one when I installed Windows 8.1 |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On 2/18/2016 9:39 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 2/18/2016 2:42 AM, Fred wrote: I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. While I can not help you with the password recovery problem, I can tell you what I did to prevent the loss of the password. First I am the principal user of the computer and my wife occasionally uses it. Using a Notepad I created a documents with my name, address, etc, and my password. I then did a screen print, and cropped the image to just above information. I then saved it as a jpg. In PC Settings, Accounts I changed the picture on the opening page to the above JPG. Now the first screen that shows when the password is requested is my contact information and the password to access the computer. This is also my Microsoft account password, which I never use and if it were not there would be forgotten. This obviously would not work if a person were a security fanatic, or the computer was used with multiple accounts. In the years since 8.0 was released, there have been many articles on how to install it without creating the Microsoft account and working around it. However when I got this computer my Windows XP machine died, and I was trying to get a new computer up and working. Since I am the only one useing the computer and had never used a password on XP, puting the password on the login screen was the only quick solution that I could think of so the password did not get lost. Subsequently I have learned how to set the computer up so it does not need a password, but the Microsoft password was still there. |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
Fred wrote on 2016/02/18:
Same post submitted here all of 10 minutes earlier. Same post submitted here was MULTI-posted over in 24hoursupport.helpdesk all of 18 minutes prior to this one and to where I replied (which is copied below). I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. Uh huh. Like we know it is your/their laptop rather than you/he hacking into it. Microsoft decided you/he did not have proof of ownership and obviously you provide even less (none) here. Search online on how to hack into Windows. There are lots of articles on how to do it. Read the manual. It will say what key to hit on boot to do a factory-time image restore. If you/he blew away the restore partition then use the rescue CDs the manual told you to create. If you don't have either then buy new installation media. Start from scratch. It will take longer to reinstall all the apps. If you/he did not perform backups then you/he deemed your/his data files as trivial or reproducible. |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On 19/02/2016 3:39 a.m., Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 2/18/2016 2:42 AM, Fred wrote: I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. While I can not help you with the password recovery problem, I can tell you what I did to prevent the loss of the password. First I am the principal user of the computer and my wife occasionally uses it. Using a Notepad I created a documents with my name, address, etc, and my password. I then did a screen print, and cropped the image to just above information. I then saved it as a jpg. In PC Settings, Accounts I changed the picture on the opening page to the above JPG. Now the first screen that shows when the password is requested is my contact information and the password to access the computer. This is also my Microsoft account password, which I never use and if it were not there would be forgotten. This obviously would not work if a person were a security fanatic, or the computer was used with multiple accounts. Thanks, but it is extremely easy to bypass the log in requirement. http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-by...log-in-screen/ |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On 19/02/2016 8:22 a.m., VanguardLH wrote:
Fred wrote on 2016/02/18: Same post submitted here all of 10 minutes earlier. Same post submitted here was MULTI-posted over in 24hoursupport.helpdesk all of 18 minutes prior to this one and to where I replied (which is copied below). I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. Uh huh. Like we know it is your/their laptop rather than you/he hacking into it. Microsoft decided you/he did not have proof of ownership and obviously you provide even less (none) here. Search online on how to hack into Windows. There are lots of articles on how to do it. Read the manual. It will say what key to hit on boot to do a factory-time image restore. If you/he blew away the restore partition then use the rescue CDs the manual told you to create. If you don't have either then buy new installation media. Start from scratch. It will take longer to reinstall all the apps. If you/he did not perform backups then you/he deemed your/his data files as trivial or reproducible. Thanks for replies. It is a friend's computer with no discs - no back ups - can't remember passwords etc etc; the usual story. After receiving microsoft reply of insufficient information I tried again with same info and - hey presto, they sent an unlock code. So removed the requirement for password at login and won't have that problem again - at least not with this dude. |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
Fred wrote:
Thanks for replies. It is a friend's computer with no discs - no back ups - can't remember passwords etc etc; the usual story. After receiving microsoft reply of insufficient information I tried again with same info and - hey presto, they sent an unlock code. So removed the requirement for password at login and won't have that problem again - at least not with this dude. ? MSFT sent an unlock code ? How ? And to whom ? -- ....winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:57:22 +1300, Fred wrote:
Thanks, but it is extremely easy to bypass the log in requirement. http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-by...log-in-screen/ This process apparently requires a valid password (presumably of an admin account you need to log into) so not so useful in your case? |
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Locked out of windows 8.1
On 18/02/2016 07:42, Fred wrote:
I can't get into a W8.1 laptop as owner cannot recall password. Microsoft no help as he cannot supply enough information to them. (last emails etc) Is there a simple way round this, or a freeware program to download to another computer. Laptop does not have any reset discs or CD drive. This is a topic that comes here time after time and there are many ways to get into a system where you don't have a valid password. Linux Live CD can do it for you but if you are new to Linux then try the Windows Bootable disk as shown in this Video: https://youtu.be/qIOIe0nr6DQ These tricks works and I have used them many times and recently I had to hack into a system of a woman who was going through the divorce proceedings but she was hiding details of her bank accounts and investment portfolios. I managed to hack into her system (because her then husband had access to the machine) and we got hold of all her bank accounts, password file and copies of other documents and produced them in the court and guess what - she cried foul!!! The judge said it makes no difference in a civil case how the info is obtained as long as it is factual. Husband got what he wanted and we had a wonderful party after that!! Good luck. -- /*This post contains rich text (HTML). if you don't like it then you can kill-filter the poster without crying about it like a small baby so that you don't see this poster's posts ever again.*/ /*This message is best read in Mozilla Thunderbird as it uses 21st century technology.*/ |
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