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Help with buying new hard drive
....apparently were not quite at the 2 GB namebrand HDD for $50 mark, yet.
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Help with buying new hard drive
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:56:44 -0400
Paul wrote: I have decided to go with another Seagate like the one in it, except it will be an SSD. It's sixty five dollars, pretty cheap for an SSD. I think I need this ST500LM001 model, but I'm not sure. What does it mean when the drive has encryption? My existing drive is SATA 3Gb/s and the drive I'm looking at is SATA 6Gb/s, does it matter? http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard...d-drive/#specs That's a page full of SSHD drives. Those are not SSD drives. An SSHD consists of: 8GB flash (used as a cache, probably a read cache) A rotating platter, just like a hard drive The Flash operates as a cache. So it has the same unreliability level as a regular hard drive. With a slight (uneven) boost when reading certain files. ******* Unless the drive includes software for controlling the encryption, don't buy it. Buy a non-encrypted drive. Full disk encryption, the best way is if it is integrated with the laptop BIOS, and a BIOS prompt asks for a password. If you want another rotating drive, of 500GB capacity, there is one listed in the "thin" section here. http://www.seagate.com/www-content/p...0-1-1402gb.pdf Thanks, I now know the difference between an SSD and an SSHD. I just sent an Email to the Dell Sales Dept., asking if it would cause any problems if I replaced the 5400 RPM hard drive with a 7200 RPM hard drive. I also asked if they would recommend a hard drive. I received a reply that they got the Email, and would contact me later. |
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On 3/12/2015 2:01 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:56:44 -0400 Paul wrote: I have decided to go with another Seagate like the one in it, except it will be an SSD. It's sixty five dollars, pretty cheap for an SSD. I think I need this ST500LM001 model, but I'm not sure. What does it mean when the drive has encryption? My existing drive is SATA 3Gb/s and the drive I'm looking at is SATA 6Gb/s, does it matter? http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard...d-drive/#specs That's a page full of SSHD drives. Those are not SSD drives. An SSHD consists of: 8GB flash (used as a cache, probably a read cache) A rotating platter, just like a hard drive The Flash operates as a cache. So it has the same unreliability level as a regular hard drive. With a slight (uneven) boost when reading certain files. ******* Unless the drive includes software for controlling the encryption, don't buy it. Buy a non-encrypted drive. Full disk encryption, the best way is if it is integrated with the laptop BIOS, and a BIOS prompt asks for a password. If you want another rotating drive, of 500GB capacity, there is one listed in the "thin" section here. http://www.seagate.com/www-content/p...0-1-1402gb.pdf Thanks, I now know the difference between an SSD and an SSHD. I just sent an Email to the Dell Sales Dept., asking if it would cause any problems if I replaced the 5400 RPM hard drive with a 7200 RPM hard drive. I also asked if they would recommend a hard drive. I received a reply that they got the Email, and would contact me later. They are probably going to tell you it will void the warranty. I'm using a 7200 RPM SSHD on a 2011 Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 64 bit and I think it is awesome. It is much faster than my 2 year old HP laptop running Windows 8.1 64 bit which has a better processor, and 2 more GBs of RAM (4 vs 6) This is the one I bought after *two* Toshiba hard drives failed. One was under warranty when it failed the other one wasn't. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148591 I paid around $100.00 for it in 2012 from Comp USA (now Tiger Direct). No idea why Newegg is asking $157 for it. Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment.../dp/B003NSBF32 |
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In message , Ron writes
Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment...5620AS/dp/B003 NSBF32 I think that is too big to fit. Also, it may just have been bad luck, but I had a 500GB Seagate SSHD, probably that model, and it died after about a week. They did replace under warranty and the replacement has been OK, but was labelled as "refurbished". -- Bill |
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On 3/12/2015 4:11 PM, Bill wrote:
In message , Ron writes Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment...5620AS/dp/B003 NSBF32 I think that is too big to fit. Also, it may just have been bad luck, but I had a 500GB Seagate SSHD, probably that model, and it died after about a week. They did replace under warranty and the replacement has been OK, but was labelled as "refurbished". Too big? It is the same exact size as the Toshiba HDD that I replaced. |
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On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:06:25 -0400
Ron wrote: I just sent an Email to the Dell Sales Dept., asking if it would cause any problems if I replaced the 5400 RPM hard drive with a 7200 RPM hard drive. I also asked if they would recommend a hard drive. I received a reply that they got the Email, and would contact me later. They are probably going to tell you it will void the warranty. I'm using a 7200 RPM SSHD on a 2011 Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 64 bit and I think it is awesome. It is much faster than my 2 year old HP laptop running Windows 8.1 64 bit which has a better processor, and 2 more GBs of RAM (4 vs 6) This is the one I bought after *two* Toshiba hard drives failed. One was under warranty when it failed the other one wasn't. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148591 I paid around $100.00 for it in 2012 from Comp USA (now Tiger Direct). No idea why Newegg is asking $157 for it. Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment.../dp/B003NSBF32 Thanks Ron, I'm going to wait until I hear from Dell, and it looks like it won't be today. I'm not worried about the warranty, I got this computer on sale just before Christmas, and it didn't cost that much. It's good to know there is a big improvement with an SSHD. |
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On 3/12/2015 5:29 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:06:25 -0400 Ron wrote: I just sent an Email to the Dell Sales Dept., asking if it would cause any problems if I replaced the 5400 RPM hard drive with a 7200 RPM hard drive. I also asked if they would recommend a hard drive. I received a reply that they got the Email, and would contact me later. They are probably going to tell you it will void the warranty. I'm using a 7200 RPM SSHD on a 2011 Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 64 bit and I think it is awesome. It is much faster than my 2 year old HP laptop running Windows 8.1 64 bit which has a better processor, and 2 more GBs of RAM (4 vs 6) This is the one I bought after *two* Toshiba hard drives failed. One was under warranty when it failed the other one wasn't. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148591 I paid around $100.00 for it in 2012 from Comp USA (now Tiger Direct). No idea why Newegg is asking $157 for it. Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment.../dp/B003NSBF32 Thanks Ron, I'm going to wait until I hear from Dell, and it looks like it won't be today. I'm not worried about the warranty, I got this computer on sale just before Christmas, and it didn't cost that much. It's good to know there is a big improvement with an SSHD. You are welcome. |
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Ron wrote:
On 3/12/2015 4:11 PM, Bill wrote: In message , Ron writes Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment...5620AS/dp/B003 NSBF32 I think that is too big to fit. Also, it may just have been bad luck, but I had a 500GB Seagate SSHD, probably that model, and it died after about a week. They did replace under warranty and the replacement has been OK, but was labelled as "refurbished". Too big? It is the same exact size as the Toshiba HDD that I replaced. Don't forget that the OP is replacing a 7mm "slim" hard drive. There aren't as many of those. 2.5" drives come in several thicknesses. To hit the 7mm point, an SSD easily does that, while it takes some finesse to make hard drives (HD or SSHD) that thin. There are fewer SKUs to choose from, at 7mm. Some drive bays in computers, may be larger, and use a spacer to achieve effective packaging. No matter what you do, make sure the drive is not able to bust off the SATA connector, if the laptop receives a shock. Your packaging of the drive, should properly support the drive while it's inside the laptop. Some SSDs come with a spacer, so they fit 7mm or 9.5mm applications. That way, the SSD fits snugly and is properly supported (for when you drop the laptop). Paul |
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On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 18:50:28 -0400
Ron wrote: On 3/12/2015 5:29 PM, Johnny wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:06:25 -0400 Ron wrote: I just sent an Email to the Dell Sales Dept., asking if it would cause any problems if I replaced the 5400 RPM hard drive with a 7200 RPM hard drive. I also asked if they would recommend a hard drive. I received a reply that they got the Email, and would contact me later. They are probably going to tell you it will void the warranty. I'm using a 7200 RPM SSHD on a 2011 Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 64 bit and I think it is awesome. It is much faster than my 2 year old HP laptop running Windows 8.1 64 bit which has a better processor, and 2 more GBs of RAM (4 vs 6) This is the one I bought after *two* Toshiba hard drives failed. One was under warranty when it failed the other one wasn't. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148591 I paid around $100.00 for it in 2012 from Comp USA (now Tiger Direct). No idea why Newegg is asking $157 for it. Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment.../dp/B003NSBF32 Thanks Ron, I'm going to wait until I hear from Dell, and it looks like it won't be today. I'm not worried about the warranty, I got this computer on sale just before Christmas, and it didn't cost that much. It's good to know there is a big improvement with an SSHD. You are welcome. I received a reply from Dell. It looks like I can't put a DVD drive in this computer, but I can replace the hard drive. Here is the reply: HI, Thank you for writing Dell US sales, I would be happy to assist you. For hard drive, yes you can change the hard drive to 7200 RPM. And for the optical drive, you can connect external optical drive through USB. Here is the link for the external USB optical drive http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...f=meekosystems Thanks and regards, T.Manmohan Singh Sales Support Associate Dell | US SMB Chat Sales Office: 1-800-456-3355 ext.4162585 Email : Customer feedback | How am I doing? Please contact my manager That link doesn't work for me. |
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On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:39:07 +0000
Stormin' Norman wrote: John, I am confused, we eliminated your speed issues why do you want to change out your drive? Is the machine still too slow for your needs? No, the computer is working fine. It doesn't have a DVD drive, and I wanted to know if I could install one. It has a blank in the place of the DVD drive. I was worried about heat problems, if I decided to go with a faster hard drive, so I thought I would ask that question. |
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Stormin' Norman wrote on 3/12/2015 7:58 PM:
There is so little need for optical discs these days Really? How about for troubleshooting/repair/etc.? |
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On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:56:14 -0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:13:19 -0500, Johnny wrote: I would like to replace the hard drive in my wife's Dell laptop computer. It has a 5400 RPM drive now, and I want to install a 7200 RPM hard drive. I went to Seagate, Amazon and Newegg, and they don't recognize the product number. I'm going to have to get Windows 8.1 installed on the new drive, and the laptop didn't come with a DVD, only a restore partition. Is there some way I can move the existing operating system to the new hard drive? It also doesn't have a DVD drive, only usb ports. Also I have never worked on a laptop. Is it very difficult to replace the hard drive, and is it easy to damage the computer while changing the drive? description: ATA Disk product: ST500LT012-1DG14 vendor: Seagate physical id: 0.0.0 bus info: logical name: /dev/sda version: 0001 serial: S3P9582G size: 465GiB (500GB) capabilities: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt configuration: ansiversion = 5 guid = 88a640ee-cbad-4852-88d7-26494c9fdf02 sectorsize = 4096 description: CPU product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2830 @ 2.16GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 4 bus info: cpu@0 version: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2830 @ 2.16GHz slot: CPU 1 size: 1992MHz capacity: 2407MHz width: 64 bits It is very easy to physically replace the hard drive in most modern notebooks. You would first need to make an image of the entire disk (all partitions) with something like Clonezilla that can be installed on a bootable USB flash drive. You would write that image to an externally connected USB drive of the correct size. The size of the storage drive all depends upon how much data is on the existing drive. See: http://clonezilla.org/ Are you making this change to increase the speed or because you need more room? If you have plenty of free space on the existing drive and are primarily looking to increase speed, have you considered a solid state drive? They are lighting fast and somewhat reasonable in price. If you need more than 500GB, the SSDs get a little pricey. If you want a spinning, mechanical hard drive, take a look at the Western Digital Caviar Black series with 32GB of cache. They are outstanding drives, very fast, long warranty and very well made. See: http://amzn.to/1MlpbCD If you would consider a SSD drive, take a look at the Samsung EVO 850 series. See: http://amzn.to/1MlpCwK Intel are supposed to make the most reliable ones. Some SSDs are really unreliable. A hard disk is the last thingy you want to fail. -- "I'm prescribing these pills for you," said the doctor to the overweight patient, who tipped the scales at about three hundred pounds. "I don't want you to swallow them. Just spill them on the floor twice a day and pick them up, one at a time." |
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On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:56:14 -0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 10:13:19 -0500, Johnny wrote: I would like to replace the hard drive in my wife's Dell laptop computer. It has a 5400 RPM drive now, and I want to install a 7200 RPM hard drive. I went to Seagate, Amazon and Newegg, and they don't recognize the product number. I'm going to have to get Windows 8.1 installed on the new drive, and the laptop didn't come with a DVD, only a restore partition. Is there some way I can move the existing operating system to the new hard drive? It also doesn't have a DVD drive, only usb ports. Also I have never worked on a laptop. Is it very difficult to replace the hard drive, and is it easy to damage the computer while changing the drive? description: ATA Disk product: ST500LT012-1DG14 vendor: Seagate physical id: 0.0.0 bus info: logical name: /dev/sda version: 0001 serial: S3P9582G size: 465GiB (500GB) capabilities: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt configuration: ansiversion = 5 guid = 88a640ee-cbad-4852-88d7-26494c9fdf02 sectorsize = 4096 description: CPU product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2830 @ 2.16GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 4 bus info: cpu@0 version: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2830 @ 2.16GHz slot: CPU 1 size: 1992MHz capacity: 2407MHz width: 64 bits It is very easy to physically replace the hard drive in most modern notebooks. You would first need to make an image of the entire disk (all partitions) with something like Clonezilla that can be installed on a bootable USB flash drive. You would write that image to an externally connected USB drive of the correct size. The size of the storage drive all depends upon how much data is on the existing drive. See: http://clonezilla.org/ I've done this several times for friends and myself and just cloned straight from the old disk to the new one, placing one of them in a USB caddy. I used the free software EaseUs Backup. -- This space was empty. |
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On 3/12/2015 7:58 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 18:48:39 -0500, Johnny wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 23:39:07 +0000 Stormin' Norman wrote: John, I am confused, we eliminated your speed issues why do you want to change out your drive? Is the machine still too slow for your needs? No, the computer is working fine. It doesn't have a DVD drive, and I wanted to know if I could install one. It has a blank in the place of the DVD drive. I was worried about heat problems, if I decided to go with a faster hard drive, so I thought I would ask that question. There is so little need for optical discs these days For some people. I use mine pretty often. I wouldn't buy a computer w/o one. |
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On 3/12/2015 7:03 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote: On 3/12/2015 4:11 PM, Bill wrote: In message , Ron writes Better price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Moment...5620AS/dp/B003 NSBF32 I think that is too big to fit. Also, it may just have been bad luck, but I had a 500GB Seagate SSHD, probably that model, and it died after about a week. They did replace under warranty and the replacement has been OK, but was labelled as "refurbished". Too big? It is the same exact size as the Toshiba HDD that I replaced. Don't forget that the OP is replacing a 7mm "slim" hard drive. There aren't as many of those. 2.5" drives come in several thicknesses. To hit the 7mm point, an SSD easily does that, while it takes some finesse to make hard drives (HD or SSHD) that thin. There are fewer SKUs to choose from, at 7mm. Some drive bays in computers, may be larger, and use a spacer to achieve effective packaging. No matter what you do, make sure the drive is not able to bust off the SATA connector, if the laptop receives a shock. Your packaging of the drive, should properly support the drive while it's inside the laptop. Some SSDs come with a spacer, so they fit 7mm or 9.5mm applications. That way, the SSD fits snugly and is properly supported (for when you drop the laptop). The newer Seagate SSHD are 7mm. They also have 6GBs of NAND instead of 4GBs like mine, but they don't make 7200RPM drives anymore. Don't know if that would make any difference in speed or not. There are claims that 7200RPM drives use more battery power than a 5400, but I don't use my laptop(s) on the battery enough to know. |
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