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I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. That used to be true until they added anti virus to Malwarebytes: https://www.malwarebytes.com/ |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over the top blocking web sites. Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:05:30 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over the top blocking web sites. I guess if you're happy with it, that's what matters. There aren't many actual viruses floating around these days, AFAIK. Most forms of malware seem to be in the form of trojans now, right? From what I've read via Google, MBAM only recently added antivirus capabilities to their product, but reviews say their detection rate is among the worst, and when they do find something, they reportedly make no attempt to actually remove the virus. Instead, they simply delete the file which carried it. That could be quite detrimental to the functional status of your PC. But again, if you're happy with it, it's all good. It just struck me as odd that it would be recommended as an AV. |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:21:46 -0600, KenW wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:05:30 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over the top blocking web sites. Steve It has been posted numerous time what files they check .xxx. IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR AN ANTI_VIRUS. Anyone that is a regular monitor of their forum knows this. Stephen Wolstenholme probably has Windows Defender running, and doesn't realize it. |
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over the top blocking web sites. Steve It's in the Virustotal web page. It's not a tested item at av-comparatives.com . They carried out a test of Android applications, and there was a Malwarebytes in there. The trend in a less than perfect survey, is Malwarebytes is low on false positives, but also doesn't hit the 99.99% mark on detection. It's more or less middle-of-the-pack for detection. But unless it's tested properly head to head, in the PC section, I wouldn't go further than that. I don't know what drives the AV-Comparatives site, whether corporate sponsorship is involved or not. Surely rating Malwarebytes claims would make for an interesting chart addition. Paul |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:08:52 -0600, KenW wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:57:41 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:05:30 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat wrote: I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer. The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over the top blocking web sites. I guess if you're happy with it, that's what matters. There aren't many actual viruses floating around these days, AFAIK. Most forms of malware seem to be in the form of trojans now, right? From what I've read via Google, MBAM only recently added antivirus capabilities to their product, but reviews say their detection rate is among the worst, and when they do find something, they reportedly make no attempt to actually remove the virus. Instead, they simply delete the file which carried it. That could be quite detrimental to the functional status of your PC. But again, if you're happy with it, it's all good. It just struck me as odd that it would be recommended as an AV. I always run a separate Anti-Virus. No program will catch everything Right. And even if it caught everything today, tomorrow it wouldn't. New malware hits the street faster than the security companies can update their software. |
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On 09/07/2019 13:47, Pat wrote:
I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection. The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does. A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again. What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat Symantec is pretty good but I use the corporate/Enterprise edition because we get it free from our company. However, for Windows 10, you don't need any. It has got Windows Defender and it does a pretty good job if you leave the settings at defaults. You need to try because no one solution for one person is likely to satisfy you because of your low intelligence. We get nutters here almost daily asking silly questions which normally don't have one right or wrong answer. Nobody is going to agree on anything here and the sooner you learn this the better and intelligent person you would be!!!!. Some idiot will give you 3 pages of reasons why he/she uses one particular brand and you'll need to read it through and come to the conclusion that your current product is still better. -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On 09/07/2019 17:08, KenW wrote:
I always run a separate Anti-Virus. No program will catch everything That's why you are having problems with Windows 10. there is absolutely no point in having multiple anti-virus programs running on a system. If you use common sense, you don't need any. Windows Defender is always running in the background and it protects you at gateway. There is chap called David Ross who is running 5 different antivirus/anti-malware programs and he comes out with silly questions all the time. -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On 7/9/19 7:47 AM, Pat wrote:
[snip] What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee? Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10? Pat I'd use the one built in to Win 10. It doesn't make such a mess of things. -- "I think when a person has been found guilty of rape he should be castrated. That would stop him pretty quick." [Billy Graham, 1974] |
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On 7/9/19 11:06 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
[snip] Stephen Wolstenholme probably has Windows Defender running, and doesn't realize it. Likely, considering that is seems to be responsible for fewer problems than other A/V. |
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of malware, though. What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over the top blocking web sites. There is a reason you don't see MalwareBytes AntiMalware (MBAM) listed at AV-Comparatives or VB100. Coverage is too low, but MalwareBytes counters that those tests are biased on signatures to find malware whereas MBAM uses heuristics and fingerprints (despite the AVs do that, too). Many times when I've trialed MBAM, it will alert on registry changes that I made simply because, gee, malware could do that, too. That MBAM does *not* do AV detection as other products is why they claim (although proven not true) that they can be used alongside AV software to enhance anti-malware protection. https://blog.malwarebytes.com/101/20...-anti-malware/ AV is like cleaning the bugs off your windshield while MBAM is like putting a screen in front of your windshield but the little bugs still get through. You use AV as the baseline security. You add MBAM to layer onto the baseline, if you feel the need for a perforated condom. Yes, MBAM added some malware protection, like for ransomware, but so have other AVs. *MBAM charges for ransomware protection*. So does Avast. In contrast, it is *free in Defender* (aka Protected Folders). However, most users don't understand the consequences of adding exclusiong to ransomware protection. For example, your backup program may use VSS to backup a quiescent copy of some of your data files but the VSC service may not (and likely is not and cannot) be whitelisted by the ransomware protection. That's because VSC runs as a service that gets rolled into an instance of svchost.exe. When your backup program using VSS tries to create a shadow copy of a file in a protected folder, the ransomeware protection pops up a prompt asking the user if they was to Allow or Block that access. For VSS, the user will see a prompt asking you want to grant svchost.exe access to the protected folder. Well, if you do, that means you grant EVERY service to have access to your protected folders and their files, and malware can run as a service. Until Microsoft offers VSC as a separate service process that never gets rolled into a svchost.exe instance, your choice is to block your backup program using VSS from backing up those protected folders or grant any service to have access to those folders. |
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:23:30 -0600, KenW wrote:
SNIP That used to be true until they added anti virus to Malwarebytes: https://www.malwarebytes.com/ That is just hype and not true. Not true for the free version, but a claimed feature of paid versions. |
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