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  #1  
Old July 9th 19, 01:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Pat
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I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat
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Old July 9th 19, 02:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat


I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.

Steve
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Old July 9th 19, 03:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat


I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.


The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.

  #4  
Old July 9th 19, 03:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat


I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.


The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.


That used to be true until they added anti virus to Malwarebytes:

https://www.malwarebytes.com/
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Old July 9th 19, 04:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Stephen Wolstenholme[_6_]
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat


I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.


The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.


What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along
with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over
the top blocking web sites.

Steve

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Old July 9th 19, 04:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:05:30 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat

I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.


The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.


What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along
with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over
the top blocking web sites.


I guess if you're happy with it, that's what matters. There aren't many
actual viruses floating around these days, AFAIK. Most forms of malware
seem to be in the form of trojans now, right?

From what I've read via Google, MBAM only recently added antivirus
capabilities to their product, but reviews say their detection rate is
among the worst, and when they do find something, they reportedly make
no attempt to actually remove the virus. Instead, they simply delete the
file which carried it. That could be quite detrimental to the functional
status of your PC.

But again, if you're happy with it, it's all good. It just struck me as
odd that it would be recommended as an AV.

  #7  
Old July 9th 19, 05:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:21:46 -0600, KenW wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:05:30 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat

I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.

The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.


What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along
with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over
the top blocking web sites.

Steve

It has been posted numerous time what files they check .xxx. IT IS NOT
A REPLACEMENT FOR AN ANTI_VIRUS. Anyone that is a regular monitor of
their forum knows this.



Stephen Wolstenholme probably has Windows Defender running, and
doesn't realize it.
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Old July 9th 19, 05:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat
I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.

The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.


What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along
with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over
the top blocking web sites.

Steve


It's in the Virustotal web page.

It's not a tested item at av-comparatives.com .

They carried out a test of Android applications,
and there was a Malwarebytes in there.

The trend in a less than perfect survey, is
Malwarebytes is low on false positives, but also
doesn't hit the 99.99% mark on detection. It's
more or less middle-of-the-pack for detection.

But unless it's tested properly head to head,
in the PC section, I wouldn't go further than that.

I don't know what drives the AV-Comparatives site,
whether corporate sponsorship is involved or not.
Surely rating Malwarebytes claims would make
for an interesting chart addition.

Paul
  #9  
Old July 9th 19, 05:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:08:52 -0600, KenW wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 10:57:41 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:05:30 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:35:13 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:44:17 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 08:47:09 -0400, Pat
wrote:

I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat

I have used Malware Bytes for nearly 14 years. I pay $39.99 a year for
premium. It as never allowed any malware of any type onto my computer.

The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never been,
a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds of
malware, though.

What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along
with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit over
the top blocking web sites.


I guess if you're happy with it, that's what matters. There aren't many
actual viruses floating around these days, AFAIK. Most forms of malware
seem to be in the form of trojans now, right?

From what I've read via Google, MBAM only recently added antivirus
capabilities to their product, but reviews say their detection rate is
among the worst, and when they do find something, they reportedly make
no attempt to actually remove the virus. Instead, they simply delete the
file which carried it. That could be quite detrimental to the functional
status of your PC.

But again, if you're happy with it, it's all good. It just struck me as
odd that it would be recommended as an AV.


I always run a separate Anti-Virus. No program will catch everything




Right. And even if it caught everything today, tomorrow it wouldn't.
New malware hits the street faster than the security companies can
update their software.
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Old July 9th 19, 05:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/07/2019 13:47, Pat wrote:
I've using Norton for many years and have been happy with it. I pay a
reasonable price once per year and they provide reasonable protection.
The processing power load doesn't seem excessive for what it does.

A while back, they bought the identity theft protection package
LifeLock and been pestering me to upgrade. I regular click "not
interested" in the pop-up, but in a few weeks, they start again.

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat

Symantec is pretty good but I use the corporate/Enterprise edition
because we get it free from our company. However, for Windows 10, you
don't need any. It has got Windows Defender and it does a pretty good
job if you leave the settings at defaults.

You need to try because no one solution for one person is likely to
satisfy you because of your low intelligence. We get nutters here
almost daily asking silly questions which normally don't have one right
or wrong answer. Nobody is going to agree on anything here and the
sooner you learn this the better and intelligent person you would
be!!!!. Some idiot will give you 3 pages of reasons why he/she uses one
particular brand and you'll need to read it through and come to the
conclusion that your current product is still better.




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Old July 9th 19, 05:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/07/2019 17:08, KenW wrote:
I always run a separate Anti-Virus. No program will catch everything


That's why you are having problems with Windows 10. there is absolutely
no point in having multiple anti-virus programs running on a system. If
you use common sense, you don't need any. Windows Defender is always
running in the background and it protects you at gateway.

There is chap called David Ross who is running 5 different
antivirus/anti-malware programs and he comes out with silly questions
all the time.





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Old July 9th 19, 06:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 7/9/19 7:47 AM, Pat wrote:

[snip]

What do you guys recommend for anti-virus these days? McAfee?
Kaspersky? Just use what's built into Windows 10?

Pat


I'd use the one built in to Win 10. It doesn't make such a mess of things.

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Old July 9th 19, 06:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 7/9/19 11:06 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

Stephen Wolstenholme probably has Windows Defender running, and
doesn't realize it.


Likely, considering that is seems to be responsible for fewer problems
than other A/V.


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Old July 9th 19, 06:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

The consensus seems to be that MalwareBytes is not, and has never
been, a replacement for antivirus software. It looks for other kinds
of malware, though.


What consensus? In my experience MalwareBytes handles viruses along
with a bunch of other types of malware. Sometimes it can be a bit
over the top blocking web sites.


There is a reason you don't see MalwareBytes AntiMalware (MBAM) listed
at AV-Comparatives or VB100. Coverage is too low, but MalwareBytes
counters that those tests are biased on signatures to find malware
whereas MBAM uses heuristics and fingerprints (despite the AVs do that,
too). Many times when I've trialed MBAM, it will alert on registry
changes that I made simply because, gee, malware could do that, too.
That MBAM does *not* do AV detection as other products is why they claim
(although proven not true) that they can be used alongside AV software
to enhance anti-malware protection.

https://blog.malwarebytes.com/101/20...-anti-malware/

AV is like cleaning the bugs off your windshield while MBAM is like
putting a screen in front of your windshield but the little bugs still
get through. You use AV as the baseline security. You add MBAM to
layer onto the baseline, if you feel the need for a perforated condom.

Yes, MBAM added some malware protection, like for ransomware, but so
have other AVs. *MBAM charges for ransomware protection*. So does
Avast. In contrast, it is *free in Defender* (aka Protected Folders).
However, most users don't understand the consequences of adding
exclusiong to ransomware protection. For example, your backup program
may use VSS to backup a quiescent copy of some of your data files but
the VSC service may not (and likely is not and cannot) be whitelisted by
the ransomware protection. That's because VSC runs as a service that
gets rolled into an instance of svchost.exe. When your backup program
using VSS tries to create a shadow copy of a file in a protected folder,
the ransomeware protection pops up a prompt asking the user if they was
to Allow or Block that access. For VSS, the user will see a prompt
asking you want to grant svchost.exe access to the protected folder.
Well, if you do, that means you grant EVERY service to have access to
your protected folders and their files, and malware can run as a
service. Until Microsoft offers VSC as a separate service process that
never gets rolled into a svchost.exe instance, your choice is to block
your backup program using VSS from backing up those protected folders or
grant any service to have access to those folders.

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Old July 9th 19, 07:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:23:30 -0600, KenW wrote:

SNIP

That used to be true until they added anti virus to Malwarebytes:

https://www.malwarebytes.com/


That is just hype and not true.


Not true for the free version, but a claimed feature of paid
versions.
 




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