Share files with MacOS Mojave

On 7/11/19 7:16 PM, Paul wrote:

You can set up Mojave in a VM, or so it's claimed.
There is much talk of serial numbers. Maybe if the
VM was available as an appliance .ova, you could
get it running on a PC for debug.

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-guest-virtualbox

Â* Paul

Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as
a VM on regular, not Apple, hardware now?

T wrote:
On 7/11/19 7:16 PM, Paul wrote:

You can set up Mojave in a VM, or so it's claimed.
There is much talk of serial numbers. Maybe if the
VM was available as an appliance .ova, you could
get it running on a PC for debug.

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-guest-virtualbox

Paul

Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as
a VM on regular, not Apple, hardware now?


Even if they chase away efforts like that, there
will still be torrent versions.

Apple would have to continue to enforce their intellectual
property rights. Maybe they act, based on complaints or something.

The sites hosting those files, will also play their
part in cutting off bandwidth. As those downloads
are pretty big.

Paul

On 7/12/19 9:49 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
On 7/11/19 7:16 PM, Paul wrote:

You can set up Mojave in a VM, or so it's claimed.
There is much talk of serial numbers. Maybe if the
VM was available as an appliance .ova, you could
get it running on a PC for debug.

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-guest-virtualbox

Â*Â* Paul

Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as
a VM on regular, not Apple, hardware now?


Even if they chase away efforts like that, there
will still be torrent versions.

Apple would have to continue to enforce their intellectual
property rights. Maybe they act, based on complaints or something.

The sites hosting those files, will also play their
part in cutting off bandwidth. As those downloads
are pretty big.

Â*Â* Paul

There are site out in the www that you can rent a
Mac if you need to learn something. Far cheaper
than buying a weird, over priced Mac.

I hate Mac's artsy-fartsy keyboard from hell
with a passion. Then again, I know how to type.
Hi Skool typing class: the most useful class I
took in Publik Hi Skool.

That and my classical piano training and keyboard
scream when they see me coming. Not a Piano! Not
a Piano! Folks in my younger years use to remark
at the noise I created when typing. Have not played
the piano since I was 17.

I adore my Unicomp keyboard. Just like an IBM
Selectric.

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There are site out in the www that you can rent a
Mac if you need to learn something. Far cheaper
than buying a weird, over priced Mac.

they're neither weird nor overpriced.

I hate Mac's artsy-fartsy keyboard from hell
with a passion. Then again, I know how to type.
Hi Skool typing class: the most useful class I
took in Publik Hi Skool.

macs use standard usb mice and keyboards.

That and my classical piano training and keyboard
scream when they see me coming. Not a Piano! Not
a Piano! Folks in my younger years use to remark
at the noise I created when typing. Have not played
the piano since I was 17.

I adore my Unicomp keyboard. Just like an IBM
Selectric.

that works just fine on a mac.

In article , wrote:



Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as
a VM on regular, not Apple, hardware now?

welcome to 15 years ago.

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 21:41:54 -0700, T wrote:

On 7/11/19 7:16 PM, Paul wrote:

You can set up Mojave in a VM, or so it's claimed. There is much talk
of serial numbers. Maybe if the VM was available as an appliance .ova,
you could get it running on a PC for debug.

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-guest-virtualbox

Â* Paul

Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as a VM on regular,
not Apple, hardware now?

I was intrigued when I read about this, so I'm trying it in VirtualBox on
my Linux system.

Thanks to Paul for the link.

When it comes to the hardware parameters (UUID, etc.) it needs to connect
to the Apple ecosystem, I think I should be able to use the values from my
retired Mac Mini, which I never run anymore. Does that sound viable?

--
-v

vallor wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 21:41:54 -0700, T wrote:

On 7/11/19 7:16 PM, Paul wrote:

You can set up Mojave in a VM, or so it's claimed. There is much talk
of serial numbers. Maybe if the VM was available as an appliance .ova,
you could get it running on a PC for debug.

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-guest-virtualbox

Paul
Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as a VM on regular,
not Apple, hardware now?

I was intrigued when I read about this, so I'm trying it in VirtualBox on
my Linux system.

Thanks to Paul for the link.

When it comes to the hardware parameters (UUID, etc.) it needs to connect
to the Apple ecosystem, I think I should be able to use the values from my
retired Mac Mini, which I never run anymore. Does that sound viable?


I haven't tried to get the files yet. The
first attempt at the Google Drive files yielded
the expected "bandwidth exceeded" error and I
stopped there.

If the recipe asks for that kind of info then sure,
your Mac Mini might be used for any collateral materials
needed.

It was hard enough doing these with PearPC and SheepShaver.
Expect to have to do some work to finish such a project.

Paul

On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 13:27:03 -0400, Paul wrote:

vallor wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 21:41:54 -0700, T wrote:

On 7/11/19 7:16 PM, Paul wrote:

You can set up Mojave in a VM, or so it's claimed. There is much talk
of serial numbers. Maybe if the VM was available as an appliance
.ova,
you could get it running on a PC for debug.

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-guest-virtualbox

Paul
Apple relented and is allowing MacOS to be installed as a VM on
regular,
not Apple, hardware now?

I was intrigued when I read about this, so I'm trying it in VirtualBox
on my Linux system.

Thanks to Paul for the link.

When it comes to the hardware parameters (UUID, etc.) it needs to
connect to the Apple ecosystem, I think I should be able to use the
values from my retired Mac Mini, which I never run anymore. Does that
sound viable?


I haven't tried to get the files yet. The first attempt at the Google
Drive files yielded the expected "bandwidth exceeded" error and I
stopped there.

If the recipe asks for that kind of info then sure,
your Mac Mini might be used for any collateral materials needed.

It was hard enough doing these with PearPC and SheepShaver.
Expect to have to do some work to finish such a project.

I have it up and running. Had to expand the target vdi virtual size to
30GB, the default 22GB seemed to have run out.

Tried signing in with apple id, didn't work. Tried adding an apple id
with the macOS iCloud interface, and it said, "this mac can't create any
more apple ids", or words to that effect. So I'll have to set it to a
unique signature, just as it says on the tin...

--
-v

On 7/12/19 10:55 PM, T wrote:
I hate Mac's artsy-fartsy keyboard from hell
with a passion. Then again, I know how to type.
Hi Skool typing class: the most useful class I
took in Publik Hi Skool.

I can't type on that damned aluminum keyboard either.

Regular Windows keyboards and mice do work, but I suspect if you want
all the features you could get with the aluminum keyboard you will need
some drivers to be able to get all the features because of some differences.

Physically, the most noticeable difference to me is the Windows keyboard
has 12 function keys, the aluminum Mac keyboard has 19.

As for me, I use an old white Apple Pro keyboard with 16 function keys.
And a very old Gateway branded trackball mouse plugged into the keyboard.

--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

In article , Ken Springer
wrote:

I can't type on that damned aluminum keyboard either.

then get a different one. everyone has different preferences. there's
no requirement to use any particular keyboard or mouse.

Regular Windows keyboards and mice do work, but I suspect if you want
all the features you could get with the aluminum keyboard you will need
some drivers to be able to get all the features because of some differences.

nope.

any standard usb or bluetooth mouse or keyboard will work without any
drivers.

anything outside of the usb standard will need a driver to support the
additional functionality beyond the standard left/right/scrollwheel,
such as gaming mice with many buttons:
https://assets.pcmag.com/media/image...35-mmo-gaming-
mouse.jpg

Physically, the most noticeable difference to me is the Windows keyboard
has 12 function keys, the aluminum Mac keyboard has 19.

fkeys are rarely used, if at all, so it doesn't make much difference
one way or the other.

On 7/16/19 9:29 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Ken Springer
wrote:

I can't type on that damned aluminum keyboard either.

then get a different one. everyone has different preferences. there's
no requirement to use any particular keyboard or mouse.

Regular Windows keyboards and mice do work, but I suspect if you want
all the features you could get with the aluminum keyboard you will need
some drivers to be able to get all the features because of some differences.

nope.

any standard usb or bluetooth mouse or keyboard will work without any
drivers.

anything outside of the usb standard will need a driver to support the
additional functionality beyond the standard left/right/scrollwheel,
such as gaming mice with many buttons:
https://assets.pcmag.com/media/image...35-mmo-gaming-
mouse.jpg

Physically, the most noticeable difference to me is the Windows keyboard
has 12 function keys, the aluminum Mac keyboard has 19.

fkeys are rarely used, if at all, so it doesn't make much difference
one way or the other.

Rare or not, the extra function keys are there, so quality dictates that
they be made available to the purchaser. And I've see keyboards on the
shelf that say they have Mac drivers.


--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

In article , Ken Springer
wrote:

Physically, the most noticeable difference to me is the Windows keyboard
has 12 function keys, the aluminum Mac keyboard has 19.

fkeys are rarely used, if at all, so it doesn't make much difference
one way or the other.

Rare or not, the extra function keys are there, so quality dictates that
they be made available to the purchaser. And I've see keyboards on the
shelf that say they have Mac drivers.

standard usb keyboards do not need mac drivers.

if the keyboard has additional non-standard keys, then a driver is
needed to support that extra functionality beyond the standard keys.

On 7/17/19 8:43 PM, nospam wrote:
if the keyboard has additional non-standard keys, then a driver is
needed to support that extra functionality beyond the standard keys.

Whicih is what I've been saying all along!! Geez.

--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

In article , Ken Springer
wrote:

if the keyboard has additional non-standard keys, then a driver is
needed to support that extra functionality beyond the standard keys.

Whicih is what I've been saying all along!! Geez.

no, you said that the non-apple keyboards had *fewer* keys, yet had
drivers.

Physically, the most noticeable difference to me is the Windows keyboard
has 12 function keys, the aluminum Mac keyboard has 19.