Is Windows 8 a Trojan horse for the NSA?

The German Government is now deeply suspicious that the Trusted Platform
Module (TPM) technology built into a growing number of Windows 8 PCs and
tablets is creating a gigantic back door for NSA surveillance, leaked
documents have suggested.

Documents from the German Ministry of Economic Affairs obtained by
German title Zeit Online uncover the alleged unease of officials at the
direction of version 2.0 of the standard being developed under the
auspices of the multi-vendor Trusted Computing Group (TCG).

TPM has been marketed as a security technology since its appearance in
2006, but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run, a setting that can’t be
over-ridden under Windows 8. The chip is also where the cryptographic
data is stored for Windows BitLocker and it enables remote administration.

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On 8/23/2013 4:40 PM, Johnny wrote:


The German Government is now deeply suspicious that the Trusted Platform
Module (TPM) technology built into a growing number of Windows 8 PCs and
tablets is creating a gigantic back door for NSA surveillance, leaked
documents have suggested.

Documents from the German Ministry of Economic Affairs obtained by
German title Zeit Online uncover the alleged unease of officials at the
direction of version 2.0 of the standard being developed under the
auspices of the multi-vendor Trusted Computing Group (TCG).

TPM has been marketed as a security technology since its appearance in
2006, but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run, a setting that can’t be
over-ridden under Windows 8. The chip is also where the cryptographic
data is stored for Windows BitLocker and it enables remote administration.

Continued:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20473...thinks-so.html

TPM is not Win 8.
But, you can bet your bippy that there are backdoors in just about
everything out there.

Per Johnny:
but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run,

Can somebody venture why anybody (maker or buyer) would want something
like that? It must have a use, but what?
--
Pete Cresswell

Johnny wrote:


The German Government is now deeply suspicious that the Trusted Platform
Module (TPM) technology built into a growing number of Windows 8 PCs and
tablets is creating a gigantic back door for NSA surveillance, leaked
documents have suggested.

Documents from the German Ministry of Economic Affairs obtained by
German title Zeit Online uncover the alleged unease of officials at the
direction of version 2.0 of the standard being developed under the
auspices of the multi-vendor Trusted Computing Group (TCG).

TPM has been marketed as a security technology since its appearance in
2006, but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run, a setting that can’t be
over-ridden under Windows 8. The chip is also where the cryptographic
data is stored for Windows BitLocker and it enables remote administration.

Continued:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20473...thinks-so.html


A refutation link, from the comments section of that article.

http://www.zdnet.com/german-governme...ms-7000019739/

You should be worried about BitLocker. If you need encryption of the
hard drive, you should be using something else. Especially if you
cross a national border, and the border people decide to copy
the entire hard drive just for fun.

Paul

On 8/23/2013 4:39 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Johnny:
but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run,

Can somebody venture why anybody (maker or buyer) would want something
like that? It must have a use, but what?


There are some of us around who still remember the Intel Pentium
PSN (Processor Serial Number) venture, about 20 years ago. Placed
in Wintel (Windows-Intel) Pentium systems, its purported use for
as an anti-piracy (meaning MS Windows and Office) tool. However,
the resulting negative publicity forced Intel to remove PSN from
its Pentium CPU's. (But Microsoft continued to develop the use of
activation product keys for its products.)

TPM, or the Trusted Platform Module, is just a more modern attempt
at surveying and controlling the use of platforms that incorporate
it. While one purported purpose is to lend better product support
to users by optimizing hardware to the OS through the BIOS chip via
a hard-programmed TPM chip, it could also be used for digital rights
management (DRM) and software licensing control.

And, then, there are the paranoics who do feel that an unscrupulous
government could access an user's computer (primarily laptops) and
snoop via codes that are burned into the TPM chip. (One possible
way for the Chinese and Russians to offload the data on Snowden's
laptops unbeknownst to him, such as when he may be sleeping.)

Just my $0.02's worth.

GR

Ghostrider01 00 wrote:
On 8/23/2013 4:39 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Johnny:
but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run,

Can somebody venture why anybody (maker or buyer) would want something
like that? It must have a use, but what?


There are some of us around who still remember the Intel Pentium
PSN (Processor Serial Number) venture, about 20 years ago. Placed
in Wintel (Windows-Intel) Pentium systems, its purported use for
as an anti-piracy (meaning MS Windows and Office) tool. However,
the resulting negative publicity forced Intel to remove PSN from
its Pentium CPU's. (But Microsoft continued to develop the use of
activation product keys for its products.)

TPM, or the Trusted Platform Module, is just a more modern attempt
at surveying and controlling the use of platforms that incorporate
it. While one purported purpose is to lend better product support
to users by optimizing hardware to the OS through the BIOS chip via
a hard-programmed TPM chip, it could also be used for digital rights
management (DRM) and software licensing control.

And, then, there are the paranoics who do feel that an unscrupulous
government could access an user's computer (primarily laptops) and
snoop via codes that are burned into the TPM chip. (One possible
way for the Chinese and Russians to offload the data on Snowden's
laptops unbeknownst to him, such as when he may be sleeping.)

Just my $0.02's worth.

GR

It's not soldered to all motherboards.

In some cases, there is a header where it plugs in. And you can
unplug it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-TPM_Asus.jpg

It all depends on whether some future software insists on it,
as to whether you'll be plugging it back in.

The other strange part, is when the motherboard comes with that
header, and you want to buy a module at retail, you can't find
one. I tried a couple years ago, and could not see any for sale.
So if a motherboard has that header, you want a TPM to be bundled
with the motherboard. As otherwise, you'd have no module
to sneer at (sitting there unplugged) :-)

Paul

Johnny wrote:


The German Government is now deeply suspicious that the Trusted Platform
Module (TPM) technology built into a growing number of Windows 8 PCs and
tablets is creating a gigantic back door for NSA surveillance, leaked
documents have suggested.

Documents from the German Ministry of Economic Affairs obtained by
German title Zeit Online uncover the alleged unease of officials at the
direction of version 2.0 of the standard being developed under the
auspices of the multi-vendor Trusted Computing Group (TCG).

TPM has been marketed as a security technology since its appearance in
2006, but version 2.0 would embed a chip on every PC that has complete
control over which programs can and can’t run, a setting that can’t be
over-ridden under Windows 8. The chip is also where the cryptographic
data is stored for Windows BitLocker and it enables remote administration.

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/20473...thinks-so.html


You asked:

Is Windows 8 a Trojan horse for the NSA?

The short answer is: of course it is. Germans know a lot about these
things. You search the web and they have black listed all versions of
windows. These are the same Germans who produced Hitler and Nazis to
persecute Jews who were the only educated, intelligent people in their
country at the time.

The argument goes like this:

Why is there a necessity to have patches every month for Windows system?
Could it be that Microsoft is planting patches for NSA on a monthly
basis? I would like to think so.

Now to the serious matter: How are getting your daily fix for young
boys? We can supply you for your orgies next week.




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