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The new HP W8.1 PC
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:22:55 -0500, "R.H. Breener"
wrote: "Bill" wrote in message news If I hold the Windows key down and press Enter, it toggles Narrator on and off. On mine, doing that does nothing. And it looks like the blue rectangle that makes reading some of the text impossible is back. The "nothing" that it did was turn on Narrator. Do it again to turn Narrator off, which removes the blue boxes. It's a toggle. I'm not sure why it works differently for you than it does for me and others. Maybe you need a TeamViewer session with someone who has been down this road before. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
"Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 4:22 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Bill" wrote in message news In message , R.H. Breener writes It's running 8.1 which was already installed by HP. Well, that's what is running on a machine here, although not an HP machine. Mine is 64-bit, for info. You didn't identify the machine model, although that may not matter. It's 64-bit. It's a HP Envy. I've been searching for making a boot disk and Recovery disk and can't find it. There's been no popup either. You can make recovery discs using the HP Recovery Manager. It took 6 blank DVDs for my HP. You also have a recovery partition. OK, found it. It used a 64GB Flashdrive.Yes and chose not to delete it. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
"Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 4:22 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Bill" wrote in message news In message , R.H. Breener writes It's running 8.1 which was already installed by HP. Well, that's what is running on a machine here, although not an HP machine. Mine is 64-bit, for info. You didn't identify the machine model, although that may not matter. It's 64-bit. It's a HP Envy. I've been searching for making a boot disk and Recovery disk and can't find it. There's been no popup either. You can make recovery discs using the HP Recovery Manager. It took 6 blank DVDs for my HP. You also have a recovery partition. I'm having a lot of trouble now with WindowsMail on this old Vista PC now. It keeps closing even if I'm typing when using Groups. So far now when replying to email. I used a new 64 GB flashdrive and chose to leave the D: petition. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC - ClassicShell is gone now!
"Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 4:38 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Bill" wrote in message ... In message , R.H. Breener writes "Alek" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote on 3/3/2015 10:21 AM: There is no tile of any kind in the lower left corner. There is nothing but tiles all over the desktop. I can't get past them. I can't do anything but move them around. Win-D maybe? Hitting the Window's Key twice seems to have worked. I'll try that at next boot if the other fails. I feel I have to say again. Restart rather than just close down and reboot. Later on you can examine the tribulations of "Fast Startup" in the bowels of Control Panel. -- Bill Hey Bill......... I have both PCs open on my desk. I have control panel open on W8 but don't see Fast Startup. And that Blue Rectangle blocks out text. I thought got rid of it - it's back again. Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\System Settings Thanks. This WindowsMail on Vista keeps closing as I type. I'm having a real problem finishing a reply before it closes again. It started with the compression or whatever it was called. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
On 3/5/2015 10:59 PM, R.H. Breener wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 4:22 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Bill" wrote in message news In message , R.H. Breener writes It's running 8.1 which was already installed by HP. Well, that's what is running on a machine here, although not an HP machine. Mine is 64-bit, for info. You didn't identify the machine model, although that may not matter. It's 64-bit. It's a HP Envy. I've been searching for making a boot disk and Recovery disk and can't find it. There's been no popup either. You can make recovery discs using the HP Recovery Manager. It took 6 blank DVDs for my HP. You also have a recovery partition. I'm having a lot of trouble now with WindowsMail on this old Vista PC now. It keeps closing even if I'm typing when using Groups. So far now when replying to email. I used a new 64 GB flashdrive and chose to leave the D: petition. Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
Ron wrote:
On 3/5/2015 10:59 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 4:22 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Bill" wrote in message news In message , R.H. Breener writes It's running 8.1 which was already installed by HP. Well, that's what is running on a machine here, although not an HP machine. Mine is 64-bit, for info. You didn't identify the machine model, although that may not matter. It's 64-bit. It's a HP Envy. I've been searching for making a boot disk and Recovery disk and can't find it. There's been no popup either. You can make recovery discs using the HP Recovery Manager. It took 6 blank DVDs for my HP. You also have a recovery partition. I'm having a lot of trouble now with WindowsMail on this old Vista PC now. It keeps closing even if I'm typing when using Groups. So far now when replying to email. I used a new 64 GB flashdrive and chose to leave the D: petition. Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. I would still recommend actual, honest to goodness backups. If you haven't tested "all this fine capability", you could be in for a rude shock one day, if stuff hits the fan. To test, back up the computer fully first, to an external drive. Then, simulate your test cases. If you think Microsoft offers Refresh, at your current patch level, go ahead and push the button. Observe whether it worked or didn't work, what damage it did. Then, restore from your backup image, and everything is back to normal again. Only by doing that, will you have any idea whether this fine stuff works or not. When I first started doing backups, I used two methods. I used a method I trusted (dd.exe block by block backup), as well as testing the Windows backup. I didn't trust the Windows backup on the first day, so I made two backups. If the restore had not worked, I would have restored using the "dd" produced image. Everyone will have some old backup package that they've previously tested, that could be used in a similar way. Don't just rely on Microsoft for these functions - neither should you rely entirely on recovery partitions. There have been a few OEMs who do a pretty poor job on this stuff, and you really need to prepare for the worst. Just like you'd prepare for a loss of your recovery DVDs, or finding the recovery DVDs have bit rot and you cannot read them any more. Image the freshly burned DVDs with Imgburn today, and move the ISO9660 files to a different hard drive for later. Paul |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
"Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 10:59 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/5/2015 4:22 PM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Bill" wrote in message news In message , R.H. Breener writes It's running 8.1 which was already installed by HP. Well, that's what is running on a machine here, although not an HP machine. Mine is 64-bit, for info. You didn't identify the machine model, although that may not matter. It's 64-bit. It's a HP Envy. I've been searching for making a boot disk and Recovery disk and can't find it. There's been no popup either. You can make recovery discs using the HP Recovery Manager. It took 6 blank DVDs for my HP. You also have a recovery partition. I'm having a lot of trouble now with WindowsMail on this old Vista PC now. It keeps closing even if I'm typing when using Groups. So far now when replying to email. I used a new 64 GB flashdrive and chose to leave the D: petition. Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. Fortunately I never had to repair the system on W7. It's a little over 2 yrs old. I finally called MS and HP both tonight. The MS tech was helpful in getting rid of the MS account but now Classic Shell wont work and I'm back with some strange Start Menu in the lower left cornor.I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and not making any headway. I get one thing solved and another crops up? I wonder if restore-refresh would reinstall that unwanted MS account. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
R.H. Breener wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. Fortunately I never had to repair the system on W7. It's a little over 2 yrs old. I finally called MS and HP both tonight. The MS tech was helpful in getting rid of the MS account but now Classic Shell wont work and I'm back with some strange Start Menu in the lower left cornor.I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and not making any headway. I get one thing solved and another crops up? I wonder if restore-refresh would reinstall that unwanted MS account. You are struggling mightily to "customize" the machine. Lots of users wouldn't even try this. They'd use the WLM and leave the menu/Start system alone. You have to expect a little fallout from fiddling with stuff. In for a penny, in for a pound. You could try uninstalling ClassicShell, then reinstall again, in case the installation of that program has some elevation or account issues. For ordinary programs, I would not expect such re-installation to make any difference to a program malfunction, but maybe you'll get lucky. Paul |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: "Ron" wrote in message Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. Fortunately I never had to repair the system on W7. It's a little over 2 yrs old. I finally called MS and HP both tonight. The MS tech was helpful in getting rid of the MS account but now Classic Shell wont work and I'm back with some strange Start Menu in the lower left cornor.I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and not making any headway. I get one thing solved and another crops up? I wonder if restore-refresh would reinstall that unwanted MS account. You are struggling mightily to "customize" the machine. Lots of users wouldn't even try this. They'd use the WLM and leave the menu/Start system alone. You have to expect a little fallout from fiddling with stuff. In for a penny, in for a pound. You could try uninstalling ClassicShell, then reinstall again, in case the installation of that program has some elevation or account issues. For ordinary programs, I would not expect such re-installation to make any difference to a program malfunction, but maybe you'll get lucky. Paul Removing that account caused the issues. I had to reinstall it after creating another account. Also, I didn't know the LT came with Webroot already installed and running. It removed one of my small SWs that give me email passwords, and no way can I find the vault to remove and reinstate it. One thing after another. If how to rescue something from the vault is on the Webroot website, I couldn't find it. |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
On 3/8/2015 12:12 AM, R.H. Breener wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: "Ron" wrote in message Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. Fortunately I never had to repair the system on W7. It's a little over 2 yrs old. I finally called MS and HP both tonight. The MS tech was helpful in getting rid of the MS account but now Classic Shell wont work and I'm back with some strange Start Menu in the lower left cornor.I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and not making any headway. I get one thing solved and another crops up? I wonder if restore-refresh would reinstall that unwanted MS account. You are struggling mightily to "customize" the machine. Lots of users wouldn't even try this. They'd use the WLM and leave the menu/Start system alone. You have to expect a little fallout from fiddling with stuff. In for a penny, in for a pound. You could try uninstalling ClassicShell, then reinstall again, in case the installation of that program has some elevation or account issues. For ordinary programs, I would not expect such re-installation to make any difference to a program malfunction, but maybe you'll get lucky. Paul Removing that account caused the issues. I had to reinstall it after creating another account. Also, I didn't know the LT came with Webroot already installed and running. It removed one of my small SWs that give me email passwords, and no way can I find the vault to remove and reinstate it. One thing after another. If how to rescue something from the vault is on the Webroot website, I couldn't find it. Is this it? http://www.webroot.com/En_US/SecureA...Quarantine.htm |
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The new HP W8.1 PC
"Ron" wrote in message ... On 3/8/2015 12:12 AM, R.H. Breener wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: "Ron" wrote in message Just in case you ever need to "refresh" the computer, Windows 8/8.1 has the ability to do that w/o losing your files. I've never done this but from what I know it will keep links to all of your installed programs in a folder which will be saved on the desktop. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...fresh-reset-pc What I like about Windows 7 (if you have a disc) you can repair the system and everything will be left in place. Fortunately I never had to repair the system on W7. It's a little over 2 yrs old. I finally called MS and HP both tonight. The MS tech was helpful in getting rid of the MS account but now Classic Shell wont work and I'm back with some strange Start Menu in the lower left cornor.I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and not making any headway. I get one thing solved and another crops up? I wonder if restore-refresh would reinstall that unwanted MS account. You are struggling mightily to "customize" the machine. Lots of users wouldn't even try this. They'd use the WLM and leave the menu/Start system alone. You have to expect a little fallout from fiddling with stuff. In for a penny, in for a pound. You could try uninstalling ClassicShell, then reinstall again, in case the installation of that program has some elevation or account issues. For ordinary programs, I would not expect such re-installation to make any difference to a program malfunction, but maybe you'll get lucky. Paul Removing that account caused the issues. I had to reinstall it after creating another account. Also, I didn't know the LT came with Webroot already installed and running. It removed one of my small SWs that give me email passwords, and no way can I find the vault to remove and reinstate it. One thing after another. If how to rescue something from the vault is on the Webroot website, I couldn't find it. Is this it? http://www.webroot.com/En_US/SecureA...Quarantine.htm No. Mine looks different and there is no choice to see what's quarantined. BTW, some messages I posted are not showing up here and I haven't located the OUTBOX yet. I despise this mail program. I have no way to know if email is leaving either of if some is stuck in the outbox I can' find. |
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