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  #46  
Old May 24th 15, 02:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/23/15 11:10 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:


Remember the days of Win 95 and 98, when a computer came with some basic
software installed? Such as MS Works, Media Center, etc.? As most of
these folks can't afford a computer, it's fairly logical they can't
afford commercial software. So I install free stuff, like WPS Office
(formerly Kingsoft), VideoLAN, free AV usually Avira, etc.

Since I'm supplying the monitor, I change the resolution for the best
display the monitor can provide. Adjust icon spacing, etc. as needed,
different wallpaper (just for the fun of it, and it helps me remember
which account I'm in. LOL) Enable Clear Type. I've not looked, but I
suspect the settings of new computers are pretty much what I end up
having when done. I mean, would you really want a computer with 800 X
600 screen resolution. :-)



Not to accuse you of anything, but here's my standard message about
used computers:

If I acquired a used computer, no matter who previously owned it, the
first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating
system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained,
what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and
spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody
else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I
wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either.


Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.



In that case, I misunderstood you. Sorry.


Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.


I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS



I won't bet with you. The number might be a little less than 99%, but
I agree that it's very high. But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't
matter; you should do it with a used computer whether you know how or
not: learn how or get a friend to help you.

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  #47  
Old May 24th 15, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 5/24/15 7:56 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/23/15 11:10 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:


Remember the days of Win 95 and 98, when a computer came with some basic
software installed? Such as MS Works, Media Center, etc.? As most of
these folks can't afford a computer, it's fairly logical they can't
afford commercial software. So I install free stuff, like WPS Office
(formerly Kingsoft), VideoLAN, free AV usually Avira, etc.

Since I'm supplying the monitor, I change the resolution for the best
display the monitor can provide. Adjust icon spacing, etc. as needed,
different wallpaper (just for the fun of it, and it helps me remember
which account I'm in. LOL) Enable Clear Type. I've not looked, but I
suspect the settings of new computers are pretty much what I end up
having when done. I mean, would you really want a computer with 800 X
600 screen resolution. :-)


Not to accuse you of anything, but here's my standard message about
used computers:

If I acquired a used computer, no matter who previously owned it, the
first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating
system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained,
what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and
spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody
else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I
wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either.


Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.



In that case, I misunderstood you. Sorry.


No apology necessary, Ken.


Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.


I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS



I won't bet with you. The number might be a little less than 99%, but
I agree that it's very high. But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't
matter; you should do it with a used computer whether you know how or
not: learn how or get a friend to help you.


I agree totally. I've reinstalled my OS often over the years, starting
with my Atari ST1040 computer.

But it's so darned hard to get people to learn anything about the OS and
how to even use it, much less reinstall it.

An example is a good friend of mine. She's constantly complaining how
slow her computer is. She's spent hours looking for fixes on the web.
But will she take the time to reinstall and start from scratch? Nope.
Will she let me do it? Nope. I just let her complaining go in one ear
and out the other, these days.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #48  
Old May 24th 15, 07:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Slimer
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 2015-05-24 11:33 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:56 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/23/15 11:10 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:


Remember the days of Win 95 and 98, when a computer came with some
basic
software installed? Such as MS Works, Media Center, etc.? As most of
these folks can't afford a computer, it's fairly logical they can't
afford commercial software. So I install free stuff, like WPS Office
(formerly Kingsoft), VideoLAN, free AV usually Avira, etc.

Since I'm supplying the monitor, I change the resolution for the best
display the monitor can provide. Adjust icon spacing, etc. as needed,
different wallpaper (just for the fun of it, and it helps me remember
which account I'm in. LOL) Enable Clear Type. I've not looked, but I
suspect the settings of new computers are pretty much what I end up
having when done. I mean, would you really want a computer with 800 X
600 screen resolution. :-)


Not to accuse you of anything, but here's my standard message about
used computers:

If I acquired a used computer, no matter who previously owned it, the
first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating
system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained,
what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and
spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody
else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I
wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either.

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.



In that case, I misunderstood you. Sorry.


No apology necessary, Ken.


Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.


I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS



I won't bet with you. The number might be a little less than 99%, but
I agree that it's very high. But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't
matter; you should do it with a used computer whether you know how or
not: learn how or get a friend to help you.


I agree totally. I've reinstalled my OS often over the years, starting
with my Atari ST1040 computer.

But it's so darned hard to get people to learn anything about the OS and
how to even use it, much less reinstall it.

An example is a good friend of mine. She's constantly complaining how
slow her computer is. She's spent hours looking for fixes on the web.
But will she take the time to reinstall and start from scratch? Nope.
Will she let me do it? Nope. I just let her complaining go in one ear
and out the other, these days.


I had no idea that it was even possible to re-install an Atari 1040ST's
operating system. As far as I knew, the operating system was in ROM and
therefore couldn't be affected by viruses. An upgrade would also require
a user to replace the chip on the motherboard, no?


--
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Encrypt.

- "NTFS is just slightly faster than apples HFS. And that is the slowest
FS of all. EXT 4 is several times faster than NTFS, and *that* is the
reason you dimbulbs now troll against EXT4."
- "Like NTFS, which is at best at beta stage right now?"

(Peter "the Klöwn" Köhlmann lying shamelessly about NTFS to desperately
defend the fact that ext4 has been shown to corrupt data in Linux kernel
4.0.x)
  #49  
Old May 24th 15, 07:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 5/24/15 12:06 PM, Slimer wrote:
On 2015-05-24 11:33 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:56 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/23/15 11:10 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:


Remember the days of Win 95 and 98, when a computer came with some
basic
software installed? Such as MS Works, Media Center, etc.? As most of
these folks can't afford a computer, it's fairly logical they can't
afford commercial software. So I install free stuff, like WPS Office
(formerly Kingsoft), VideoLAN, free AV usually Avira, etc.

Since I'm supplying the monitor, I change the resolution for the best
display the monitor can provide. Adjust icon spacing, etc. as needed,
different wallpaper (just for the fun of it, and it helps me remember
which account I'm in. LOL) Enable Clear Type. I've not looked, but I
suspect the settings of new computers are pretty much what I end up
having when done. I mean, would you really want a computer with 800 X
600 screen resolution. :-)


Not to accuse you of anything, but here's my standard message about
used computers:

If I acquired a used computer, no matter who previously owned it, the
first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating
system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained,
what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and
spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody
else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I
wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either.

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.


In that case, I misunderstood you. Sorry.


No apology necessary, Ken.


Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.

I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS


I won't bet with you. The number might be a little less than 99%, but
I agree that it's very high. But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't
matter; you should do it with a used computer whether you know how or
not: learn how or get a friend to help you.


I agree totally. I've reinstalled my OS often over the years, starting
with my Atari ST1040 computer.

But it's so darned hard to get people to learn anything about the OS and
how to even use it, much less reinstall it.

An example is a good friend of mine. She's constantly complaining how
slow her computer is. She's spent hours looking for fixes on the web.
But will she take the time to reinstall and start from scratch? Nope.
Will she let me do it? Nope. I just let her complaining go in one ear
and out the other, these days.


I had no idea that it was even possible to re-install an Atari 1040ST's
operating system. As far as I knew, the operating system was in ROM and
therefore couldn't be affected by viruses. An upgrade would also require
a user to replace the chip on the motherboard, no?


You're correct, but technically you kind of reinstalled it every time
you turned in on. snicker, snicker

OK, that was in fun.

On the serious side, you reinstalled the OS, in this case an upgrade,
buy removing the ROM and installing a new one. Which I did. But
thinking back, that was on my Mega 4, not the 1040.


--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #50  
Old May 24th 15, 07:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-05-24 11:33 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:56 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/23/15 11:10 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:


Remember the days of Win 95 and 98, when a computer came with some
basic
software installed? Such as MS Works, Media Center, etc.? As
most of
these folks can't afford a computer, it's fairly logical they can't
afford commercial software. So I install free stuff, like WPS
Office
(formerly Kingsoft), VideoLAN, free AV usually Avira, etc.

Since I'm supplying the monitor, I change the resolution for the best
display the monitor can provide. Adjust icon spacing, etc. as
needed,
different wallpaper (just for the fun of it, and it helps me remember
which account I'm in. LOL) Enable Clear Type. I've not looked,
but I
suspect the settings of new computers are pretty much what I end up
having when done. I mean, would you really want a computer with
800 X
600 screen resolution. :-)


Not to accuse you of anything, but here's my standard message about
used computers:

If I acquired a used computer, no matter who previously owned it, the
first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating
system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained,
what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and
spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody
else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I
wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either.

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.


In that case, I misunderstood you. Sorry.


No apology necessary, Ken.


Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.

I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS


I won't bet with you. The number might be a little less than 99%, but
I agree that it's very high. But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't
matter; you should do it with a used computer whether you know how or
not: learn how or get a friend to help you.


I agree totally. I've reinstalled my OS often over the years, starting
with my Atari ST1040 computer.

But it's so darned hard to get people to learn anything about the OS and
how to even use it, much less reinstall it.

An example is a good friend of mine. She's constantly complaining how
slow her computer is. She's spent hours looking for fixes on the web.
But will she take the time to reinstall and start from scratch? Nope.
Will she let me do it? Nope. I just let her complaining go in one ear
and out the other, these days.


I had no idea that it was even possible to re-install an Atari 1040ST's
operating system. As far as I knew, the operating system was in ROM and
therefore couldn't be affected by viruses. An upgrade would also require
a user to replace the chip on the motherboard, no?



This is back when ROMs were expensive, but disk drives were
more expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_TOS

The ROMs in that case, would be considered "wastefully large"
when compared to what was used on other computers.

Paul
  #51  
Old May 24th 15, 08:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

I set up basic accounts because of the malware issues these days, but a
tutorial of why it's done and how to properly use them is supplied with
the computer.

The most radical thing I do is partition the hard drive, and move the
data storage to the new partition. Relocating those personal data files
LOL And the new owners get instructions on never putting files on
C:\. LOL


While I see your reasons for doing that, it's non-standard and is probably
going to confuse a few folks. Personally, I've always just advised people
with whom I come into contact to make backups on a regular basis. With a
good backup strategy, it doesn't matter as much where things are stored.

Case in point, one lady *asked me* to create a second partition and a folder
structure in it, then move her personal documents there. I got a frantic
call about week later advising me that all of her precious documents were
gone. Turns out, she had simply forgotten that she'd asked me to move them.
The part I felt bad about was when she told me she had been searching for at
least five days and had finally called me because she thought that I had
accidentally deleted them.

  #52  
Old May 24th 15, 08:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time. Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.

What I don't do is look around on the think like pjp does. I could care
less what's on there.

I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS


You had me at "I'd take you all to Vegas...". When is this, again? I need to
clear my schedule.

  #53  
Old May 24th 15, 08:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:42:07 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

I set up basic accounts because of the malware issues these days, but a
tutorial of why it's done and how to properly use them is supplied with
the computer.

The most radical thing I do is partition the hard drive, and move the
data storage to the new partition. Relocating those personal data files
LOL And the new owners get instructions on never putting files on
C:\. LOL


While I see your reasons for doing that, it's non-standard and is probably
going to confuse a few folks. Personally, I've always just advised people
with whom I come into contact to make backups on a regular basis. With a
good backup strategy, it doesn't matter as much where things are stored.



I agree completely.

  #54  
Old May 24th 15, 10:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
mechanic
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:42:07 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

While I see your reasons for doing that, it's non-standard and is
probably going to confuse a few folks.


Quite, especially if they're working from a Dummies book.
  #55  
Old May 24th 15, 10:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
mechanic
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:39:14 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

On 5/24/15 4:24 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.


Easy to say, but from what? And with what license?


Retail copy or the restore partition if it exists, using the product ID
on the computer.


If there is one. Unlikely for most ex-business throw-outs.
  #56  
Old May 25th 15, 07:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 5/24/15 3:42 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:39:14 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

On 5/24/15 4:24 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.

Easy to say, but from what? And with what license?


Retail copy or the restore partition if it exists, using the product ID
on the computer.


If there is one. Unlikely for most ex-business throw-outs.


So far, I've been lucky. The product ID sticker is on the case.


--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #57  
Old May 25th 15, 07:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 5/24/15 1:43 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time. Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.

What I don't do is look around on the think like pjp does. I could care
less what's on there.

I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS


You had me at "I'd take you all to Vegas...". When is this, again? I need to
clear my schedule.


LOL! About the time I win the lottery.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #58  
Old May 25th 15, 04:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Dominique[_5_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

mechanic écrivait
:

On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.


Easy to say, but from what? And with what license?

What I do is to image what I've bought first, always leave yourself
a way back if you hit a brick wall later.


Interesting but what are you talking about?

Why so many peoples start new threads to continue discussions on another
thread?

It's hard to follow if not impossible.
  #59  
Old May 25th 15, 04:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 5/24/15 12:47 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2015-05-24 11:33 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 5/24/15 7:56 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:54:57 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 5/23/15 11:10 AM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:


Remember the days of Win 95 and 98, when a computer came with some
basic
software installed? Such as MS Works, Media Center, etc.? As
most of
these folks can't afford a computer, it's fairly logical they can't
afford commercial software. So I install free stuff, like WPS
Office
(formerly Kingsoft), VideoLAN, free AV usually Avira, etc.

Since I'm supplying the monitor, I change the resolution for the best
display the monitor can provide. Adjust icon spacing, etc. as
needed,
different wallpaper (just for the fun of it, and it helps me remember
which account I'm in. LOL) Enable Clear Type. I've not looked,
but I
suspect the settings of new computers are pretty much what I end up
having when done. I mean, would you really want a computer with
800 X
600 screen resolution. :-)


Not to accuse you of anything, but here's my standard message about
used computers:

If I acquired a used computer, no matter who previously owned it, the
first thing I would do with it would be to reinstall the operating
system cleanly. You have no idea how the computer has been maintained,
what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and
spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody
else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I
wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either.

Yea, I do a clean install, each and every time.


In that case, I misunderstood you. Sorry.

No apology necessary, Ken.


Sometimes I don't even
know who owned it previously.

I'd take you all to Vegas and bet that 99& of the new owners wouldn't
have a clue how to reinstall the OS


I won't bet with you. The number might be a little less than 99%, but
I agree that it's very high. But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't
matter; you should do it with a used computer whether you know how or
not: learn how or get a friend to help you.

I agree totally. I've reinstalled my OS often over the years, starting
with my Atari ST1040 computer.

But it's so darned hard to get people to learn anything about the OS and
how to even use it, much less reinstall it.

An example is a good friend of mine. She's constantly complaining how
slow her computer is. She's spent hours looking for fixes on the web.
But will she take the time to reinstall and start from scratch? Nope.
Will she let me do it? Nope. I just let her complaining go in one ear
and out the other, these days.


I had no idea that it was even possible to re-install an Atari 1040ST's
operating system. As far as I knew, the operating system was in ROM and
therefore couldn't be affected by viruses. An upgrade would also require
a user to replace the chip on the motherboard, no?



This is back when ROMs were expensive, but disk drives were
more expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_TOS

The ROMs in that case, would be considered "wastefully large"
when compared to what was used on other computers.


Probably so, but just try to install a virus in the OS. G


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #60  
Old May 25th 15, 05:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Creating personal data/special folders

On 5/24/15 1:42 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2015 08:58:29 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

I set up basic accounts because of the malware issues these days, but a
tutorial of why it's done and how to properly use them is supplied with
the computer.

The most radical thing I do is partition the hard drive, and move the
data storage to the new partition. Relocating those personal data files
LOL And the new owners get instructions on never putting files on
C:\. LOL


While I see your reasons for doing that, it's non-standard and is probably
going to confuse a few folks. Personally, I've always just advised people
with whom I come into contact to make backups on a regular basis. With a
good backup strategy, it doesn't matter as much where things are stored.


Guess that's a situation of how you define non-standard. G To me,
formatting/partitioning another Windows partition is not non-standard.
It's not the default, but not non-standard. Non-standard would be
creating Mac or Linux partitions on the drive.

I have to work with the assumption the new owners will not have the
resources to purchase an external drive for backups. Well, I don't
*have* to, but I do. And many times, the hard drive is too small to
have the images on the internal drive. In the case of the Vista machine
I'm working with now, the optical drive will only burn CD's.

I also work with the assumption they have no clue what a backup is.

After weighing in all the factors, this leaves me with the choice of
partitions, or asking them to do something they possibly can't afford to
do, even if they have the knowledge. I think partitioning and moving
their docs is the safest approach under these conditions.

I do explain what I've done, and why, in the documentation, and I
encourage them to do backups, *if* they can afford it. It's always
possible someone may give them an external drive, but I don't know that.

Case in point, one lady *asked me* to create a second partition and a folder
structure in it, then move her personal documents there. I got a frantic
call about week later advising me that all of her precious documents were
gone. Turns out, she had simply forgotten that she'd asked me to move them.
The part I felt bad about was when she told me she had been searching for at
least five days and had finally called me because she thought that I had
accidentally deleted them.


As long as you're in the "fix it" business of some kind, you'll always
have the customer who forgot they asked for something to be done, or
forgot to ask for something to be done. I would have felt bad too, and
likely would have tried to steer the conversation to make her feel
better, such as "Yea, I've forgotten these things too that I've done for
myself", so she knows she's not the only one to do it.

But the bottom line is, you did what she asked. You are not responsible
for her memory.



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Ken
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and it's gone!"
 




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