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Why they give windows 10
Why they give Windows 10 upgrade for free but there is no more Windows 7 for
sale? I would like to have Windows 7 backup just in case I don't feel confortable with Windows 10. Linux people need Windows 7 Pro to upgrade to Windows 10 Final Edition and many people like to own the DVD to install whenever system gets problems. But they don't sell Windows 7 on shops down here. Can we download Windows 7 from somewhere? Another question I have is why Office 2016 Professional is so expensive? I think that way MS is losing money because if Windows 10 is free, Linux users can virtualize Windows 10 and install Office 2016 Trial. |
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Why they give windows 10
Ok, never mind only a consideration. I feel we're going to lose everything
if we update our system to windows 10. We lose control and we are forced to update whenever they want. I feel they can shut down system when we need most to work on important happenings. Don't be surprised if you have lots of people moving to Apple. "Gary Stevens" escreveu na mensagem ... Why they give Windows 10 upgrade for free but there is no more Windows 7 for sale? I would like to have Windows 7 backup just in case I don't feel confortable with Windows 10. Linux people need Windows 7 Pro to upgrade to Windows 10 Final Edition and many people like to own the DVD to install whenever system gets problems. But they don't sell Windows 7 on shops down here. Can we download Windows 7 from somewhere? Another question I have is why Office 2016 Professional is so expensive? I think that way MS is losing money because if Windows 10 is free, Linux users can virtualize Windows 10 and install Office 2016 Trial. |
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Why they give windows 10
In my case I'm going to ask for social help to stay away from speculation, I
need solid information to go on, not just entertainment and losing time with fashion systems. We need serious and viable network to keep our files and communications safe. That's not what I've seen in the last season. Spent many time believing in a project that left their customers alone and not happy at all with their business. Thousands of people invested in IT knowledge and now they are in the street asking for their jobs and citizen rights to implement what they've learned in the last years. This is we want our good way of life back. We are not prepared to be jobless. Say no to pension slavery. We want to be independent and live like they promised us. We want our future back. "Gary Stevens" escreveu na mensagem ... Ok, never mind only a consideration. I feel we're going to lose everything if we update our system to windows 10. We lose control and we are forced to update whenever they want. I feel they can shut down system when we need most to work on important happenings. Don't be surprised if you have lots of people moving to Apple. "Gary Stevens" escreveu na mensagem ... Why they give Windows 10 upgrade for free but there is no more Windows 7 for sale? I would like to have Windows 7 backup just in case I don't feel confortable with Windows 10. Linux people need Windows 7 Pro to upgrade to Windows 10 Final Edition and many people like to own the DVD to install whenever system gets problems. But they don't sell Windows 7 on shops down here. Can we download Windows 7 from somewhere? Another question I have is why Office 2016 Professional is so expensive? I think that way MS is losing money because if Windows 10 is free, Linux users can virtualize Windows 10 and install Office 2016 Trial. |
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Why they give windows 10
On 7/7/2015 7:52 PM, Gary Stevens wrote:
In my case I'm going to ask for social help to stay away from speculation, I need solid information to go on, not just entertainment and losing time with fashion systems. We need serious and viable network to keep our files and communications safe. That's not what I've seen in the last season. Spent many time believing in a project that left their customers alone and not happy at all with their business. Thousands of people invested in IT knowledge and now they are in the street asking for their jobs and citizen rights to implement what they've learned in the last years. This is we want our good way of life back. We are not prepared to be jobless. Say no to pension slavery. We want to be independent and live like they promised us. We want our future back. Considering that Windows 8.1 is a very useable and stable system when you boot directly to the desktop, Windows 10 will probably equally stable. If you are in the US, I can see not conceivable situation where Microsoft would shut a legal system down. I have been using Windows 8.1 for over a nearly 2 years now and while I was ready to toss it before Windows 8 was updated, I find that with Windows 8.1 there are things that I like better that the old systems. All of the noise about the Start Menu disappearing is just that noise. The MS Icon on the left of the Desktop tool bar gives you more access to your system that the old start menu. Once you clear the New Start menu of the junk, you will find that it is easier to use than the old collapsing menu system that has been in Windows since XP. With the new start menu you can use the mouse wheel to scroll until you find the program you want. All the program on your computer, those you use and those you don't are on the Apps menu accessed by the down arrow on the New Start menu. I do a lot of research and reports on my computer. What I really like is the jump menus. These menus are access by right clicking the program icon on the desktop taskbar. ( I have all of my frequently used programs on the desktop taskbar. Don't forget to add the File Explore to the taskbar. ) The jump list contain all of the recently accessed files. If you have the File Explorer on the desktop taskbar, all of your frequently used folders are in the taskbar. |
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I agree, taskbar is a very useful place to pin most used programs, and you
can run them through a keyboard shortcut, pressing windows key + 1 to 9 digit. "Keith Nuttle" escreveu na mensagem ... On 7/7/2015 7:52 PM, Gary Stevens wrote: In my case I'm going to ask for social help to stay away from speculation, I need solid information to go on, not just entertainment and losing time with fashion systems. We need serious and viable network to keep our files and communications safe. That's not what I've seen in the last season. Spent many time believing in a project that left their customers alone and not happy at all with their business. Thousands of people invested in IT knowledge and now they are in the street asking for their jobs and citizen rights to implement what they've learned in the last years. This is we want our good way of life back. We are not prepared to be jobless. Say no to pension slavery. We want to be independent and live like they promised us. We want our future back. Considering that Windows 8.1 is a very useable and stable system when you boot directly to the desktop, Windows 10 will probably equally stable. If you are in the US, I can see not conceivable situation where Microsoft would shut a legal system down. I have been using Windows 8.1 for over a nearly 2 years now and while I was ready to toss it before Windows 8 was updated, I find that with Windows 8.1 there are things that I like better that the old systems. All of the noise about the Start Menu disappearing is just that noise. The MS Icon on the left of the Desktop tool bar gives you more access to your system that the old start menu. Once you clear the New Start menu of the junk, you will find that it is easier to use than the old collapsing menu system that has been in Windows since XP. With the new start menu you can use the mouse wheel to scroll until you find the program you want. All the program on your computer, those you use and those you don't are on the Apps menu accessed by the down arrow on the New Start menu. I do a lot of research and reports on my computer. What I really like is the jump menus. These menus are access by right clicking the program icon on the desktop taskbar. ( I have all of my frequently used programs on the desktop taskbar. Don't forget to add the File Explore to the taskbar. ) The jump list contain all of the recently accessed files. If you have the File Explorer on the desktop taskbar, all of your frequently used folders are in the taskbar. |
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Why they give windows 10
Gary Stevens wrote:
Why they give Windows 10 upgrade for free but there is no more Windows 7 for sale? I would like to have Windows 7 backup just in case I don't feel confortable with Windows 10. Linux people need Windows 7 Pro to upgrade to Windows 10 Final Edition and many people like to own the DVD to install whenever system gets problems. But they don't sell Windows 7 on shops down here. Can we download Windows 7 from somewhere? Another question I have is why Office 2016 Professional is so expensive? I think that way MS is losing money because if Windows 10 is free, Linux users can virtualize Windows 10 and install Office 2016 Trial. Retail sales of Windows 7 ended. Sales of Windows 7 pre-installed on OEM machines continues. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle - Scroll down to the table that gives end of sales dates for specific Windows operating systems. Also see this included information below the table. qp * Note that when the retail software product reaches its end of sales date, it can still be purchased through OEMs (the company that made your PC) until it reaches the end of sales date for PCs with Windows preinstalled. ** Microsoft will provide one year of notice prior to the end of sale date. /qp Fyi...Some inventory of retail full version and OEM Windows 7 media full version still exists and is available not from Microsoft but via online retailers. That inventory will eventually disappear as well as pc's pre-built with Windows 7. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Why they give windows 10
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:19:14 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 7/7/2015 7:52 PM, Gary Stevens wrote: In my case I'm going to ask for social help to stay away from speculation, I need solid information to go on, not just entertainment and losing time with fashion systems. We need serious and viable network to keep our files and communications safe. That's not what I've seen in the last season. Spent many time believing in a project that left their customers alone and not happy at all with their business. Thousands of people invested in IT knowledge and now they are in the street asking for their jobs and citizen rights to implement what they've learned in the last years. This is we want our good way of life back. We are not prepared to be jobless. Say no to pension slavery. We want to be independent and live like they promised us. We want our future back. Considering that Windows 8.1 is a very useable and stable system when you boot directly to the desktop, Windows 10 will probably equally stable. If you are in the US, I can see not conceivable situation where Microsoft would shut a legal system down. I have been using Windows 8.1 for over a nearly 2 years now and while I was ready to toss it before Windows 8 was updated, I find that with Windows 8.1 there are things that I like better that the old systems. All of the noise about the Start Menu disappearing is just that noise. The MS Icon on the left of the Desktop tool bar gives you more access to your system that the old start menu. Once you clear the New Start menu of the junk, you will find that it is easier to use than the old collapsing menu system that has been in Windows since XP. With the new start menu you can use the mouse wheel to scroll until you find the program you want. All the program on your computer, those you use and those you don't are on the Apps menu accessed by the down arrow on the New Start menu. I do a lot of research and reports on my computer. What I really like is the jump menus. These menus are access by right clicking the program icon on the desktop taskbar. ( I have all of my frequently used programs on the desktop taskbar. Don't forget to add the File Explore to the taskbar. ) The jump list contain all of the recently accessed files. If you have the File Explorer on the desktop taskbar, all of your frequently used folders are in the taskbar. And this differs from Windows 7 in what way, since what you describe seems to work the same way in 7. |
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Why they give windows 10
On 7/10/2015 11:22 AM, Dave Cohen wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:19:14 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 7/7/2015 7:52 PM, Gary Stevens wrote: In my case I'm going to ask for social help to stay away from speculation, I need solid information to go on, not just entertainment and losing time with fashion systems. We need serious and viable network to keep our files and communications safe. That's not what I've seen in the last season. Spent many time believing in a project that left their customers alone and not happy at all with their business. Thousands of people invested in IT knowledge and now they are in the street asking for their jobs and citizen rights to implement what they've learned in the last years. This is we want our good way of life back. We are not prepared to be jobless. Say no to pension slavery. We want to be independent and live like they promised us. We want our future back. Considering that Windows 8.1 is a very useable and stable system when you boot directly to the desktop, Windows 10 will probably equally stable. If you are in the US, I can see not conceivable situation where Microsoft would shut a legal system down. I have been using Windows 8.1 for over a nearly 2 years now and while I was ready to toss it before Windows 8 was updated, I find that with Windows 8.1 there are things that I like better that the old systems. All of the noise about the Start Menu disappearing is just that noise. The MS Icon on the left of the Desktop tool bar gives you more access to your system that the old start menu. Once you clear the New Start menu of the junk, you will find that it is easier to use than the old collapsing menu system that has been in Windows since XP. With the new start menu you can use the mouse wheel to scroll until you find the program you want. All the program on your computer, those you use and those you don't are on the Apps menu accessed by the down arrow on the New Start menu. I do a lot of research and reports on my computer. What I really like is the jump menus. These menus are access by right clicking the program icon on the desktop taskbar. ( I have all of my frequently used programs on the desktop taskbar. Don't forget to add the File Explore to the taskbar. ) The jump list contain all of the recently accessed files. If you have the File Explorer on the desktop taskbar, all of your frequently used folders are in the taskbar. And this differs from Windows 7 in what way, since what you describe seems to work the same way in 7. I am not an expert and do not know the code differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, people who are forced to change should be told the truth about using Windows 8.1. (Yes you can by some of the remaining inventory of Widow 7, but it is dead as far as new production.) |
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Why they give windows 10
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:20 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: I am not an expert and do not know the code differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, people who are forced to change should be told the truth about using Windows 8.1. FYI, Windows 7 has at least 5 years of support left. That's not at all what I'd call dead. |
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Why they give windows 10
On 7/11/2015 3:30 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:20 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am not an expert and do not know the code differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, people who are forced to change should be told the truth about using Windows 8.1. FYI, Windows 7 has at least 5 years of support left. That's not at all what I'd call dead. OP quote: (Yes you can buy some of the remaining inventory of Widow 7, but it is dead as far as new production.) |
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Why they give windows 10
Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 7/11/2015 3:30 AM, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:20 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am not an expert and do not know the code differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, people who are forced to change should be told the truth about using Windows 8.1. FYI, Windows 7 has at least 5 years of support left. That's not at all what I'd call dead. OP quote: (Yes you can buy some of the remaining inventory of Widow 7, but it is dead as far as new production.) Correct. MSFT distribution centers are no longer accepting new orders from 3rd party retailers for retail FFP product. Any existing inventory in the distribution chain is to fulfill contractual orders (accounts' receivable)-which is slim since retail FFP end-of-sales ceased in Oct 2013. OEM System Builder product for use on pre-installed pc's for sale to end-users via System Builders and 3rd party retailers should dry up too - well before the 2020 Win7 EOL support date. Expect the end-of-sales date for OEM preinstall on pcs to be made public shortly after Win10 GA...thus Win7 OEM availability end of sale date could easily be somewhere between July 2016-Oct 2016 (consistent with MSFT stated one-year advance notification). After that date occurs...only existing inventory will be available in the 3rd party or OEM System Builder market....though end-users and System Builder should still be allowed to receive 'replacement' product directly through MSFT's replacement program. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Why they give windows 10
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 08:29:44 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 7/11/2015 3:30 AM, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:20 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am not an expert and do not know the code differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, people who are forced to change should be told the truth about using Windows 8.1. FYI, Windows 7 has at least 5 years of support left. That's not at all what I'd call dead. OP quote: (Yes you can buy some of the remaining inventory of Widow 7, but it is dead as far as new production.) Actually, I quoted the part that I was replying to. It was this part: However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, Your statement was incorrect, IMHO. |
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Why they give windows 10
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 08:29:44 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 7/11/2015 3:30 AM, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 22:36:20 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: I am not an expert and do not know the code differences between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, people who are forced to change should be told the truth about using Windows 8.1. FYI, Windows 7 has at least 5 years of support left. That's not at all what I'd call dead. OP quote: (Yes you can buy some of the remaining inventory of Widow 7, but it is dead as far as new production.) Actually, I quoted the part that I was replying to. It was this part: However since Windows 7 is essentially dead, Your statement was incorrect, IMHO. Correct. Win7 use is not dead. Even 2020 EOL doesn't make it 'dead' at that point in time. Use though is entirely different than availability for purchase. Availability [exclusive of remaining inventory or replacement media] will die before Win7 use (most likely next year - July to Oct 2016) - imo it would an error in judgement to believe that Win7 will still be an available media or system for purchase for significant length of time after Win10's free upgrade period ends. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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