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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: VanguardLH wrote ... Rendered page: https://imgur.com/a/HbOvNnD I opened this URL and it said: JavaScript is required to upload to imgur You don't have a second web browser to check or visit the problematic sites? IE will fail on some sites. Some sites refuse to allow connects from ancient web browsers, like at banks or e-stores, including IE. HTML5 has been adopted by most sites, so IE won't well behave there. You need a newer web browser to use either as a backup browser or as the primary browser with IE as the backup. Continuing use of an archaic web browser will have you encounter other problems. I see you have decided to continue letting Avast spamify your posts. No. Avast signature has been disabled |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"KenW" wrote in message ... Maybe if you killed that stupid Avast ad, it might work. Doubt it but anything is better than their ad --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Avast signature now disabled |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: Mark Lloyd ... Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. This is a very simple clock page: http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html . It will tell you if Javascript works (since the clock is updated every second). This is all I got: http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html Yep, that's the same URL that Mark gave you. As mentioned by Mark, the clock updates every second. That is because Javascript is used to update the clock. Right-click on the page and look at its source. You'll see the clock is defined within the SCRIPT tag. In a prior reply, I gave a couple sites that tell you if Javascript is enabled in the client you use to visit those pages. They're pretty simple. They'll tell you if your client has Javascript enabled or not. The clock and its continued update is now working |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message ... On 11/7/18 11:01 AM, Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. Can you help. This is a very simple clock page: http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html . It will tell you if Javascript works (since the clock is updated every second). --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. hxxps://www.avast.cox/antivirus Turning off the spam won't hurt. -- 48 days until the winter celebration (Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "The world holds two classes of men -- intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence." [Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)] The clock is definitely working now and it seconds update |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"Paul" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: "Paul" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. Can you help. https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp ‎ It has information like this: JavaScript True JavaScriptEnabled True JavaScriptBuild 5.7.22589 Mainly said "Not detectable with javascript disabled" also said 'An add-on for this website failed to run'. Indicated that JavaScript is True and that JavaScriptEnabled is True What about Internet Options and the Security Level slider ? If you crank the security level too high, it's not going to want to do squat for you :-) (The best security obviously comes from not exposing the huge attack surface of Javascript, to the Internet. I don't like Javascript... but on the other hand "I can't live without it".) Paul I have not set security level at medium |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"Gene Wirchenko" wrote in message news On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:01:29 -0000, "Emrys Davies" wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. Can you help. Not with a vague statement like that. What do you mean by "does not work"? Is it a particular site? It could be something else. For example, if cookies are disabled, some sites will not work. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko I just had suggestion that JS was not working but I cannot recall any particular instance. I am now been more free with cookies. The clock test is now working. |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: VanguardLH wrote ... Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. How do you know that Javascript doesn't work? Something must clue you in that scripts in a web page aren't working. Got an example web site where its behavior is not what you expect? Just got an inclination from remarks on the website, but I cannot recall where. Where did you enable Javascript in IE? Was it at Control Panel - Internet Options - Security tab? Are you using a standard security level or did you customize the Internet level? If using a customized Internet level, under its Scripting section, is "Active scripting" set to Enabled? There are multiple zones depending on to where you host connects. Internet is when you are on the Web. I set Active Scripting to Enabled and Restarted. At that same Security tab, click on Restricted sites. Then click on the Sites button. Is whatever sites you are visiting where Javascript is disabled listed in the Restricted Sites list? By default, the Restricted Sites zone disables scripting. While you may have never added any sites to the Restricted Sites security zone, you could be using software that adds sites there (e.g., SpywareBlaster). In that case, you probably shouldn't be visiting that site. I use Spyware Blaster. I have searched the Restricted Sites but I did not learn anything which might assist me. In addition to the Restricted Sites list, are you using any TPLs (Tracking Protection Lists)? Control Panel - Internet Options - Programs tab, Manage add-ons, Tracking Protection section. Sites in those lists get blocked. I do not use TPLs or manage add-ons Have you disabled or uninstalled any add-ons that you installed into IE? not to my knowledge Have you tried temporarily disabling your anti-virus program? Yes I did but I did not know what to look for Are you asking about Javascript or Java? They are NOT the same thing. I am definitely talking about Javascript. Java is shown in Control Panel 'Programs' but no mention of Javascript. I will research your other suggestions. Javascript won't be listed as its own program listing in Add/Remove Programs. Javascript engines are embedded in the web browsers, not separate from them. IE has its Javascript engine (Chakra), Firefox has its own (Spidermonkey), and Chrome has something different (V8). Because Javascript isn't external, it also isn't wholly compatible between different web browsers. What runs fine in one web browser may misbehave in another. This last para. is a very useful piece of information for the likes of me as I had looked for JS in Add/Remove Programs and I only found Java. Now I know. Java is a separate interpreter and will show in the Add/Remove Programs listing. Could be the 72MB JRE (Java Runtime Environment) mostly for end users that run Java [web] apps or the 200MB JDK (Java Development Kit) mostly for programmers building the Java apps. Java was an ActiveX plug-in to IE, but Microsoft dumped ActiveX and plug-ins in their Edge. Google and Mozilla have dropped support for plug-ins. Flash is the last plug-in but it dies at the end of 2020 when Adobe drops it. Java is like COBOL: both linger on for decades in a slow death. If there are remnant customers with deep-enough pockets than anything stays alive. Do you really do any Java programming? Still visiting old game sites that require Java? Due to the security issues with Java, it was discontinued bundling with web browsers a long time ago. No, I have never knowingly used Java |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: "Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. Can you help. How do you know JS does not work? Because I get reminded that it does not work. Is there a definite test so that I am sure that it does not work? Thanks. Can you try with another browser? And turn off the avaast spam? I have disabled Avaast Signature and think about another browser |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote... Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. How do you know JS does not work? Because I get reminded that it does not work. Is there a definite test so that I am sure that it does not work? Thanks. How about you give us a URL of a site's page you think uses Javascript but the page "does not work"? Could be the site you're visiting simply refuses to work with an antiquated web browser, like IE (any version). Here are some test sites: https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...script-enabled http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?bhcp=1 (check JavascriptEnabled value) The latter site shows JavaScript as working, I think. http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?bhcp=1 |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 23:56:57 -0000, "Emrys Davies"
wrote: "Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: "Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. Can you help. How do you know JS does not work? Because I get reminded that it does not work. Is there a definite test so that I am sure that it does not work? Thanks. Can you try with another browser? And turn off the avaast spam? I have disabled Avaast Signature and think about another browser Thinking about another browser rather than IE is a good thing to do. In my opinion, IE is among the worst of available browsers. I recommend FireFox. |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"Paul" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote... Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. How do you know JS does not work? Because I get reminded that it does not work. Is there a definite test so that I am sure that it does not work? Thanks. How about you give us a URL of a site's page you think uses Javascript but the page "does not work"? Could be the site you're visiting simply refuses to work with an antiquated web browser, like IE (any version). Here are some test sites: https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...script-enabled http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?bhcp=1 (check JavascriptEnabled value) I did the test on your second URL and this is what I got: http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?bhcp=1&bhjs=-1 I now found that for some reason, very recently, my active scripting was disabled and I enabled it and also set my security to medium. I then ran your 'check' URL again and this is what I got: http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?doJvmd=1&bhcp=1 Just copy the information out of the browser window and put it into a posting, OK ? Like I did for you previously. This what I found: http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?doJvmd=1&bhcp=1 It has information like this: JavaScript True JavaScriptEnabled True JavaScriptBuild 5.7.22589 That shows about as much stuff as Cyscape has to offer. Go back and run Marks "clockie" test. http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html Tell us whether you see a digital clock with 1 second updates, or you still see some message about some file. Describe these things verbally, to avoid confusion here. Paste text when it is available. We can't expect you to upload images, short of you running your own web server, due to the very problem you're trying to debug. Without Javascript, lots of the things we come to rely on, don't work. Paul |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"Paul" wrote in message news Emrys Davies wrote: "Emrys Davies" wrote in message ... "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: Paul in Houston TX wrote... Emrys Davies wrote: I have Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 11. I have enabled Javascript but it does not work. There are several references to it in the Registry. How do you know JS does not work? Because I get reminded that it does not work. Is there a definite test so that I am sure that it does not work? Thanks. How about you give us a URL of a site's page you think uses Javascript but the page "does not work"? Could be the site you're visiting simply refuses to work with an antiquated web browser, like IE (any version). Here are some test sites: https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...script-enabled http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?bhcp=1 (check JavascriptEnabled value) I did the test on your second URL and this is what I got: http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?bhcp=1&bhjs=-1 I now found that for some reason, very recently, my active scripting was disabled and I enabled it and also set my security to medium. I then ran your 'check' URL again and this is what I got: http://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.aspx?doJvmd=1&bhcp=1 Just copy the information out of the browser window and put it into a posting, OK ? Like I did for you previously. It has information like this: JavaScript True JavaScriptEnabled True JavaScriptBuild 5.7.22589 That shows about as much stuff as Cyscape has to offer. Go back and run Marks "clockie" test. http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html Tell us whether you see a digital clock with 1 second updates, or I see this: http://notstupid.us/clox/clockie.html you still see some message about some file. Describe these things verbally, to avoid confusion here. Paste text when it is available. We can't expect you to upload images, short of you running your own web server, due to the very problem you're trying to debug. Without Javascript, lots of the things we come to rely on, don't work. Paul |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
Emrys Davies wrote:
No, I have never knowingly used Java Uninstall Java until if and when you encounter a site that demands it whereupon you can decide whether to kowtow to that site's requirement. Nowadays the only place where Java via web browser is needed is within corporate environments where they use and deploy Java applets. However, even then, you don't need the Java plug-in. Instead of use the Java app manager/launcher (aka Java Web Start) that manages downloading of Java apps, version changes in the applets, and runs the applet using the local Java interpreter (not a browser plug-in). The local Java manager communicates with an applet server to check version, authentication, incremental updates, and local execution. With the plug-in, Java applets got passed out of the web browser to the Java interpreter. A plug-in is not needed since the web browser can still pass an applet to an external handler (the Java interpreter) by using a protocol specifier. Eventually Oracle is dropping their Java Web Start client-side manager/launcher. I don't know if they are replacing it with something else or if this is Oracle recognizing that Java is a dying programming language (and why I equated Java with a newer kin to COBOL with both lasting long after getting supplanted with later technologies). Microsoft tried to compete with Sun by adding their own MSJava interpreter but that quickly failed. Microsoft decided to get into webapps but did so very late with their Silverlight which never caught on and died sooner than did Java. It's like Microsoft's XPS document format and printer driver in Windows that was their attempt to supplant Adobe's PDF, and which was another Microsoft failure. The wanted into a market, got into it very late, the market died, and Microsoft had to shake the poop off their shoes. Although Microsoft published XPS to be an open document standard, no one else adopted it because no one used it (yes, there were a few but who cares about a few firecrackers going off next to an atomic blast). It appears Oracle has now realized that Java will die, too. Oracle is more of a software publisher than a software developer. They will contact programming services to update or modify their software (often acquired from elsewhere) only when needed. Customers lament the poor support from Oracle. We had an enterprise application that was better than a competitor's. Then Oracle acquired the competitor's product and we literally had a celebration party knowing disgruntled customers would migrate to us (which did happen) to become gruntled customers with us due to far superior technical support along with a better product at a cheaper price. The competitor getting acquired by Oracle was good for our business. As another example, Sun declared that Java would always be open source. Oracle made the same promise after acquiring Sun but then sued Google due to use of Java in the Android operating system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle...v._Google,_Inc. I was surprised Google didn't simply argue that while the Sun version of Java was the de facto standard implementation that there were several other authors of the Java programming language. I remember IBM having their own flavor but was not privy to any licensing that may have existed between IBM and Sun, if any, regarding Java, especially since at the time Java was open source. I haven't been involved with Java since sometime around 2001, so I'm not interested in delving into how much long Java will survive or what might replace or already has replaced their Java Web Start. Java Web Start was really an enterprise solution to managing corporate Java apps. Now it seems Oracle is advocating that developers produce stand-along Java app; i.e., you download them yourself and then pass them onto the Java interpreter. https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/j...ol-135779.html This seems to promote developers from stopping the creation of Java applets to instead producing Java applications. All the Java plug-in did was pass the Java applet to the JRE, anyway, where the applet ran outside of the browser. Java Web Start was available several years before the plug-in got deprecated and then made impossible to use in web browsers that dropped the insecure plug-in model. |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: No, I have never knowingly used Java Uninstall Java until if and when you encounter a site that demands it whereupon you can decide whether to kowtow to that site's requirement. I have uninstalled Java . Thanks. Nowadays the only place where Java via web browser is needed is within corporate environments where they use and deploy Java applets. However, even then, you don't need the Java plug-in. Instead of use the Java app manager/launcher (aka Java Web Start) that manages downloading of Java apps, version changes in the applets, and runs the applet using the local Java interpreter (not a browser plug-in). The local Java manager communicates with an applet server to check version, authentication, incremental updates, and local execution. With the plug-in, Java applets got passed out of the web browser to the Java interpreter. A plug-in is not needed since the web browser can still pass an applet to an external handler (the Java interpreter) by using a protocol specifier. Eventually Oracle is dropping their Java Web Start client-side manager/launcher. I don't know if they are replacing it with something else or if this is Oracle recognizing that Java is a dying programming language (and why I equated Java with a newer kin to COBOL with both lasting long after getting supplanted with later technologies). Microsoft tried to compete with Sun by adding their own MSJava interpreter but that quickly failed. Microsoft decided to get into webapps but did so very late with their Silverlight which never caught on and died sooner than did Java. It's like Microsoft's XPS document format and printer driver in Windows that was their attempt to supplant Adobe's PDF, and which was another Microsoft failure. The wanted into a market, got into it very late, the market died, and Microsoft had to shake the poop off their shoes. Although Microsoft published XPS to be an open document standard, no one else adopted it because no one used it (yes, there were a few but who cares about a few firecrackers going off next to an atomic blast). It appears Oracle has now realized that Java will die, too. Oracle is more of a software publisher than a software developer. They will contact programming services to update or modify their software (often acquired from elsewhere) only when needed. Customers lament the poor support from Oracle. We had an enterprise application that was better than a competitor's. Then Oracle acquired the competitor's product and we literally had a celebration party knowing disgruntled customers would migrate to us (which did happen) to become gruntled customers with us due to far superior technical support along with a better product at a cheaper price. The competitor getting acquired by Oracle was good for our business. As another example, Sun declared that Java would always be open source. Oracle made the same promise after acquiring Sun but then sued Google due to use of Java in the Android operating system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle...v._Google,_Inc. I was surprised Google didn't simply argue that while the Sun version of Java was the de facto standard implementation that there were several other authors of the Java programming language. I remember IBM having their own flavor but was not privy to any licensing that may have existed between IBM and Sun, if any, regarding Java, especially since at the time Java was open source. I haven't been involved with Java since sometime around 2001, so I'm not interested in delving into how much long Java will survive or what might replace or already has replaced their Java Web Start. Java Web Start was really an enterprise solution to managing corporate Java apps. Now it seems Oracle is advocating that developers produce stand-along Java app; i.e., you download them yourself and then pass them onto the Java interpreter. https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/j...ol-135779.html This seems to promote developers from stopping the creation of Java applets to instead producing Java applications. All the Java plug-in did was pass the Java applet to the JRE, anyway, where the applet ran outside of the browser. Java Web Start was available several years before the plug-in got deprecated and then made impossible to use in web browsers that dropped the insecure plug-in model. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Javascript is enabled but it does not work.
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 13:08:15 -0000, "Emrys Davies"
wrote: "VanguardLH" wrote in message ... Emrys Davies wrote: No, I have never knowingly used Java Uninstall Java until if and when you encounter a site that demands it whereupon you can decide whether to kowtow to that site's requirement. I have uninstalled Java . Thanks. Nowadays the only place where Java via web browser is needed is within corporate environments where they use and deploy Java applets. However, even then, you don't need the Java plug-in. Instead of use the Java app manager/launcher (aka Java Web Start) that manages downloading of Java apps, version changes in the applets, and runs the applet using the local Java interpreter (not a browser plug-in). The local Java manager communicates with an applet server to check version, authentication, incremental updates, and local execution. With the plug-in, Java applets got passed out of the web browser to the Java interpreter. A plug-in is not needed since the web browser can still pass an applet to an external handler (the Java interpreter) by using a protocol specifier. Eventually Oracle is dropping their Java Web Start client-side manager/launcher. I don't know if they are replacing it with something else or if this is Oracle recognizing that Java is a dying programming language (and why I equated Java with a newer kin to COBOL with both lasting long after getting supplanted with later technologies). Microsoft tried to compete with Sun by adding their own MSJava interpreter but that quickly failed. Microsoft decided to get into webapps but did so very late with their Silverlight which never caught on and died sooner than did Java. It's like Microsoft's XPS document format and printer driver in Windows that was their attempt to supplant Adobe's PDF, and which was another Microsoft failure. The wanted into a market, got into it very late, the market died, and Microsoft had to shake the poop off their shoes. Although Microsoft published XPS to be an open document standard, no one else adopted it because no one used it (yes, there were a few but who cares about a few firecrackers going off next to an atomic blast). It appears Oracle has now realized that Java will die, too. Oracle is more of a software publisher than a software developer. They will contact programming services to update or modify their software (often acquired from elsewhere) only when needed. Customers lament the poor support from Oracle. We had an enterprise application that was better than a competitor's. Then Oracle acquired the competitor's product and we literally had a celebration party knowing disgruntled customers would migrate to us (which did happen) to become gruntled customers with us due to far superior technical support along with a better product at a cheaper price. The competitor getting acquired by Oracle was good for our business. As another example, Sun declared that Java would always be open source. Oracle made the same promise after acquiring Sun but then sued Google due to use of Java in the Android operating system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle...v._Google,_Inc. I was surprised Google didn't simply argue that while the Sun version of Java was the de facto standard implementation that there were several other authors of the Java programming language. I remember IBM having their own flavor but was not privy to any licensing that may have existed between IBM and Sun, if any, regarding Java, especially since at the time Java was open source. I haven't been involved with Java since sometime around 2001, so I'm not interested in delving into how much long Java will survive or what might replace or already has replaced their Java Web Start. Java Web Start was really an enterprise solution to managing corporate Java apps. Now it seems Oracle is advocating that developers produce stand-along Java app; i.e., you download them yourself and then pass them onto the Java interpreter. https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/j...ol-135779.html This seems to promote developers from stopping the creation of Java applets to instead producing Java applications. All the Java plug-in did was pass the Java applet to the JRE, anyway, where the applet ran outside of the browser. Java Web Start was available several years before the plug-in got deprecated and then made impossible to use in web browsers that dropped the insecure plug-in model. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Your Avast spam is back again! |
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