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No icons on bootup
From: "Radiorick"
Before I shut down to disconnect the 2nd monitor I closed all applications and did a restart with both monitors still connected. When I logged into the problem account I got the background screen with no icons but within a few minutes all icons appeared and everything was normal. I then shut down again and disconnected the 2nd monitor and powered up with the same result (all icons appeared within a few minutes). Also you asked what happened when I tried to run explorer.exe. After running it I looked in the processes tab and found two instances of explorer. Each time I tried again another entry showed up in the processes tab. When everything is working explorer shows a memory usage around 168,400k When I have no icons it shows around16k. I don't know it that means anything or not. This problem has occurred before and then it seems to magically fix itself. Each time I do a reboot I hold my breath while waiting to see if I'll have icons. I've had the dual monitor setup for quite some time and it has worked very well. Sorry, I made a mistake and replied via email. It sounds to me like you have a display problem associated with multiple monitors. That information and setup is a peruser setup (HKCU) thus you need to determine what screens are shown on what monitor and what application will display on a particular monitor. Explorer.exe is called the OS "Shell". The first time explorer.exe is executed it will bring up the Desktop. It subsequent execution will bring up and explorer window where you are either browsing the system or a particular drive. The ide of you using the Task Manager and executing explorer.exe was to see if it was a "shell" issue. If it was a Shell issue, the Desktop would have come up as expected. The fact it shows multiple instances of explorer.exe (explorer.exe is conncurrent application and not a re-entrant application) means the Shell is loading but the problem is associated of where and how the Shell is shown. Have you ever tried implementing a third monitor or used some knid of "screen extender" ? -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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No icons on bootup
Thanks for the explanation. I've never tried either a third monitor or
screen extender. At least I don't think I've tried a screen extender . . . not exactly sure what it is. Do you have any suggestions on how to keep this problem from reoccurring? "David H. Lipman" wrote in message ... From: "Radiorick" Before I shut down to disconnect the 2nd monitor I closed all applications and did a restart with both monitors still connected. When I logged into the problem account I got the background screen with no icons but within a few minutes all icons appeared and everything was normal. I then shut down again and disconnected the 2nd monitor and powered up with the same result (all icons appeared within a few minutes). Also you asked what happened when I tried to run explorer.exe. After running it I looked in the processes tab and found two instances of explorer. Each time I tried again another entry showed up in the processes tab. When everything is working explorer shows a memory usage around 168,400k When I have no icons it shows around16k. I don't know it that means anything or not. This problem has occurred before and then it seems to magically fix itself. Each time I do a reboot I hold my breath while waiting to see if I'll have icons. I've had the dual monitor setup for quite some time and it has worked very well. Sorry, I made a mistake and replied via email. It sounds to me like you have a display problem associated with multiple monitors. That information and setup is a peruser setup (HKCU) thus you need to determine what screens are shown on what monitor and what application will display on a particular monitor. Explorer.exe is called the OS "Shell". The first time explorer.exe is executed it will bring up the Desktop. It subsequent execution will bring up and explorer window where you are either browsing the system or a particular drive. The ide of you using the Task Manager and executing explorer.exe was to see if it was a "shell" issue. If it was a Shell issue, the Desktop would have come up as expected. The fact it shows multiple instances of explorer.exe (explorer.exe is conncurrent application and not a re-entrant application) means the Shell is loading but the problem is associated of where and how the Shell is shown. Have you ever tried implementing a third monitor or used some knid of "screen extender" ? -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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No icons on bootup
In message , VanguardLH
writes: [] By the way, is Windows even configured to show the desktop icons? Right-click on a blank area of the desktop to show its context menu. Look under the "Arrange icons by" submenu. Is the "Show desktop icons" selection enabled (shows a checkmark next to it)? I don't have that option. Under (i. e. to the right of) "Arrange Icons By", I have Name, Size, Type, Modified, then a divider line, then Show in Groups which is greyed out, Auto Arrange, and Align to Grid (which is ticked in my case). Windows XP Home Premium SP3, Modified Theme, if those make any difference. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf For people who like peace and quiet: a phoneless cord. |
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No icons on bootup
From: "Radiorick"
Thanks for the explanation. I've never tried either a third monitor or screen extender. At least I don't think I've tried a screen extender . . . not exactly sure what it is. You have to work out that all is displayed with only one physical monitor installed and all displays correctly. Once that is reconnect the second monitor reset the dual monitor configuration. This could be through a nVidia utility or via the disaply congtrol panel applet or both. Verify "Monitor 1" and "Monitor 2" are setup for resolution, etc, and the proper orientation. For example if "Monitor 2" is on the left side of "Monitor 1" or on the right side of "Monitor 1". Then determine which monitor will be the primary (desktop) monitor and which is the secondary and what application will be shown on what monitor. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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No icons on bootup
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Radiorick typed: Yes, I added another user account and when I log into it I get icons and a task bar. Now what? "David H. Lipman" wrote in message ... From: "Radiorick" No, I tried that but it didn't work In Safe Mode can you create a new account go back into Normal Mode and logon with that account ? That seems to say if you start with the new account, everything is OK. Then that's the account to be using. You can delete the old one and rename the new one if you wish to keep it looking like a change happened. HTH, Twayne` |
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No icons on bootup
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
VanguardLH writes: By the way, is Windows even configured to show the desktop icons? Right-click on a blank area of the desktop to show its context menu. Look under the "Arrange icons by" submenu. Is the "Show desktop icons" selection enabled (shows a checkmark next to it)? I don't have that option. Under (i. e. to the right of) "Arrange Icons By", I have Name, Size, Type, Modified, then a divider line, then Show in Groups which is greyed out, Auto Arrange, and Align to Grid (which is ticked in my case). Windows XP Home Premium SP3, Modified Theme, if those make any difference. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330170 That lists the Pro (what I have) and Home (what you have) editions as applicable to that article. This per-user setting changes the registry item at: key = HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Advanced data item = HideIcons value = 0 (off), 1 (on) If you have configured Windows to NOT allow web content on the desktop (Active Desktop) then you won't see this option. Active Desktop allows the user to have their desktop display as a web page -- so it's possible the OP's problem is he has a web page selected to overlay his desktop that covers all of his desktop. In the TweakUI powertoy for Windows XP, go to Explorer and see if the "Allow web content to be added to the desktop" option is enabled or not. If enabled, you'll get the show/hide desktop icons entry in the desktop context menu. If disabled, you do not get this context menu item. It changes the following registry entry: key = HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer data item = NoActiveDesktop value = 0 (off), 1 (on) Note: Because this is a negatively named data item (it's a *disable* setting), off on the disable means on for the feature. Note that this registry entry is for a policy setting. It's listed at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc957840.aspx. That means anything that alters policies on a host can change this setting, like a a tweaker (e.g., TweakUI), policy editor (e.g., secpol.msc, gpedit.msc), a domain policy pushed onto a workstation, or malware. The Home editions of Windows don't come with a policy editor. Another way to check if web content is allowed on the desktop is to right-click on the desktop, select Properties, go to the Desktop tab, and click on the Customize button. If the Web tab panel is missing, you cannot add web content to the desktop which also means you won't get the show/hide desktop icons context menu entry. While I have web content enabled for display on my desktop, I have no web content selected. I'm not interested in displaying web pages that synchronize at some scheduled or manual interval. If I disable web content completely then I lose the ancilliary features, like show/hide desktop icons. The two ways of "disabling" Active Desktop is to go into the Web tab panel and deselect everything there (but show/hide desktop icons will still be available) or to use TweakUI or the registry tweak to completely disable the Active Desktop feature. Themes can decide whether or not web content (Active Content) is allowed or not. If you're using a non-Microsoft theme manager then this feature may not be available (I already suggested to the OP that a theme manager could be his problem). |
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No icons on bootup
In message , VanguardLH
writes: [] If you have configured Windows to NOT allow web content on the desktop (Active Desktop) then you won't see this option. Active Desktop allows Ah, I believe I have. the user to have their desktop display as a web page -- so it's possible the OP's problem is he has a web page selected to overlay his desktop that covers all of his desktop. [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams |
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