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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micro...ce-7000013560/ Excerpt: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs. Windows XP, the oldest of the bunch, celebrates its 12th birthday this fall. It kicks off a year-long farewell tour next week, counting down to April 8, 2014, when Microsoft officially ends its support. XP lived longer than any version of Windows ever, getting multiple extensions on its retirement date to placate customers who said no to Vista. But April 2014 is the end of the road. XP will not get a last-minute reprieve. Let me say that again, in boldface this time: Microsoft will not extend the support deadline for XP. If you're still relying on XP, you should have a plan to switch to a supported platform, whether it's from Microsoft or someone else. April 8, 2014 is a deadline, not a death sentence. PCs running XP will not stop working when the clock runs out. In fact, XP diehards won’t notice anything different except an eerie quiet on Patch Tuesday. Newer Windows versions, including Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8, will continue to get security patches and bug fixes via Windows Update, but not XP. When the extended support period ends, so do those updates. (Large enterprise customers who have custom support agreements with Microsoft and who are willing to pay dearly for the privilege might be able to get custom updates after the official end of support. But consumers and small businesses will not have that option.) None of this should be a surprise. As I’ve noted before, Microsoft has a well-established support life-cycle for its software products. It’s basically an agreement that the company makes with everyone who commits to Windows. The terms of that agreement don’t change often, which is an important assurance for business customers who tend to be conservative in their approach to upgrades. Six months after the launch of Windows 8, it’s become obvious that Windows 7 is the new Long Term Support version. And I'm starting to get more questions from readers who are concerned that Microsoft is going to try to kill off Windows 7. MY OPINION: Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies up you-know-where. I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps. -- =========== Tecknomage =========== Computer Systems Specialist IT Technician (retired) San Diego, CA |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
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Tecknomage typed: http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micro...ce-7000013560/ Excerpt: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? .... April 8, 2014 is a deadline, not a death sentence. PCs running XP will not stop working when the clock runs out. In fact, XP diehards wont notice anything different except an eerie quiet on Patch Tuesday. And even tht won't go completely dark; hell, I got critical updates for Win 98 for years after its demise. Newer Windows versions, including Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8, will continue to get security patches and bug fixes via Windows Update, but not XP. Except for crtcal updates that affect all versions of windows, and for specific operating systems. The smart thing to do if you don't trust MS is to download ALL of the updates since the last Service Pack you installed. When the extended support period ends, so do those updates. Not entirely true. See above comments. .... None of this should be a surprise. As Ive noted before, Microsoft has a well-established support life-cycle for its software products. Its basically an agreement that the company makes with everyone who commits to Windows. Actually, to those it holds contracts for, not you and I. The terms of that agreement dont change often, which is an important assurance for business customers who tend to be conservative in their approach to upgrades. Six months after the launch of Windows 8, its become obvious that Windows 7 is the new Long Term Support version. And I'm starting to get more questions from readers who are concerned that Microsoft is going to try to kill off Windows 7. There IS one thing MS could do that would result in a bunch of law suits and class actions: As they did in China to stop piracy, they can send an update that will trash the OS on all those computers! But, desparete for money, they turned around and offered it back to them for $45US. Good deal for them! Anyway, if you're the cautious type, like I said, download all the updates NOW and don't wait for them to disappear. Since SP3 there have been quite a few of them. MY OPINION: Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies up you-know-where. I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps. HTH, Twayne` |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 07:39:08 -0700, Tecknomage wrote:
Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? It would be like an old computer whose manufacturer no longer provides driver and BIOS updates. It would still run existig OS and its programs properly. In fact, in most cases, with existing updates, the computer would already be very stable when the support ended. Six months after the launch of Windows 8, it’s become obvious that Windows 7 is the new Long Term Support version. And I'm starting to get more questions from readers who are concerned that Microsoft is going to try to kill off Windows 7. I'm actually concerned about Microsoft if that happens. I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps. Don't forget those Windows settings and tweaks that you have set and applied for the past 10 years or so. |
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Tecknomage typed: http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micro...ce-7000013560/ Excerpt: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs. .... MY OPINION: Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies up you-know-where. I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps. No offense meant, but for a supposed IT Technician and Computer Systems Specialist you seem to be a little behind reality in what supposedly happens at the end of an MS OS cycle. You need to get a grasp on things and be a little more realistic in your outlook and expectations. I doubt more than a handful of people have needed Support for XP Pro SP3 any longer anyway. I do understand you feel the need to vent. It's just that you've horribly mixed up opinion with fact. HTH, Twayne` |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
Il giorno Tue 09 Apr 2013 04:39:08p, *Tecknomage* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs. since XP is valid only on old and older computers, the newest haven't proper drivers for the hardware, I think that it will die slowly as it was for the never-forgot windows 2000 and the world will get used with the new ones who can't afford the expense to get a brand new computer should learn to use XP avoiding risks (=using brain) or, crossing the line, use another o.s. -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
On 04/09/2013 09:39 AM, Tecknomage wrote:
http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micro...ce-7000013560/ Excerpt: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs. Windows XP, the oldest of the bunch, celebrates its 12th birthday this fall. It kicks off a year-long farewell tour next week, counting down to April 8, 2014, when Microsoft officially ends its support. XP lived longer than any version of Windows ever, getting multiple extensions on its retirement date to placate customers who said no to Vista. But April 2014 is the end of the road. XP will not get a last-minute reprieve. snip This is not going to have much impact. Assuming one is using Firefox or Chrome , the updates will continue for those browsers. Additionally for the virus checker and malware checker as well. XP should be viable for many more years |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 21:11:04 -0400, "Twayne"
wrote: In , Tecknomage typed: http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micro...ce-7000013560/ Excerpt: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs. ... MY OPINION: Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies up you-know-where. I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps. No offense meant, but for a supposed IT Technician and Computer Systems Specialist you seem to be a little behind reality in what supposedly happens at the end of an MS OS cycle. You need to get a grasp on things and be a little more realistic in your outlook and expectations. I doubt more than a handful of people have needed Support for XP Pro SP3 any longer anyway. I do understand you feel the need to vent. It's just that you've horribly mixed up opinion with fact. HTH, Twayne`, You are correct, my post is venting, and I needed it. As far as me being 'a little behind reality in what supposedly happens at the end of an MS OS cycle' that is not the issue. I do know what happens. My venting is the corporate attitude that is OK to abandon loyal users of your product. It's like if Ford stopped providing service for older Ford cars. It's about being loyal TO customers who have been loyal to you, and about growing a reputation of 'loyalty to customers.' -- =========== Tecknomage =========== Computer Systems Specialist IT Technician (retired) San Diego, CA |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
Per Tecknomage:
It's about being loyal TO customers who have been loyal to you, and about growing a reputation of 'loyalty to customers.' When the company I used to work for (Philadelphia Electric) was given a new CEO - who promptly started making life difficult for the long-term employees - somebody called him on it in a meeting. His response: "If I want loyalty, I'll get a puppy." -- Pete Cresswell |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
In message , Tecknomage
writes: [] You are correct, my post is venting, and I needed it. As far as me being 'a little behind reality in what supposedly happens at the end of an MS OS cycle' that is not the issue. I do know what happens. My venting is the corporate attitude that is OK to abandon loyal users of your product. It's like if Ford stopped providing service for older Ford cars. It's about being loyal TO customers who have been loyal to you, and about growing a reputation of 'loyalty to customers.' [] What exactly does this loyalty - of the customers who stuck with XP - mean in practice? It could be argued that they're not "loyal customers": they're people who bought an MS OS once, and expect it to work forever. "Loyal customers" would be ones who keep buying perhaps? (I'm playing devil's advocate: I'm an XP SP3 user, who just takes this 'group for curiosity. But I can see all sides of this one.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -George Bernard Shaw, writer, Nobel laureate (1856-1950) |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
For over 20 years, there was a mad rush for
faster and faster computer hardware. Your new computer would be garbage within 3 years and the replacement would process 6 or 10 times faster than the one it replaced. Microsoft got to sell a new iteration of Windows at many of those stages. Cheap desktop computer hardware actually became faster than what most people actually needed. Limitations of physics began to make it increasingly expensive to obtain even a measly 2X speed increase, which doesn't seem like such a good deal after we got used to 6x and 10x processor speed increases at each system upgrade. Now people are sitting on their old computers longer and hardware turnover is slowing down too, so MS has partly lost their traditional mechanism of cycling their latest product out to dominate the market. The latest Windows really does not provide any appreciable increase in productivity for most users. Now it sounds like MS is heading in the direction of marketing Windows as a subscription service where people pay a yearly fee to use it. Microsoft needs a major social networking innovation or major productivity software innovation to pull off the conversion. |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:12:03 AM UTC-5, Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Tue 09 Apr 2013 04:39:08p, *Tecknomage* inviava su microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of Windows or Office suffers the same fate? For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs. since XP is valid only on old and older computers, the newest haven't who can't afford the expense to get a brand new computer should learn to use XP avoiding risks (=using brain) or, crossing the line, use another http://www.bb2002.it ........... [ al lavoro ] ........... Not everyone is rolling in money like yourself. :-) And most people have and use their brain. Andy |
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WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End
Il giorno Thu 11 Apr 2013 03:03:02p, *Andy* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio news:923af7c0-6014-4fde- . Vediamo cosa scrisse: Not everyone is rolling in money like yourself. :-) I'm using lxle on a 10-years-old machine, and it makes (almost) everything I need :P And most people have and use their brain. I quote Einstein: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
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