17/7 update

Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

On 18/07/2016 20:15, critcher wrote:
Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

Do you know which kb was it that cased this problem. Perhaps you could
research into it and post back.

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critcher wrote:
Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

You can use "msinfo" to find the sub-version of your OS.
The 10586 part may be stated in more than one place, but
it's harder to get the portion after the dot in the number.

When the OS receives a cumulative update and the number
after the 10586 is incremented, your Windows Update will
have no history. So you cannot look for a KB number, because
these updates are like Service Packs.

This is a release summary, provided by the "Read More" link
in the Windows Update interface.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...update-history

July 12, 2016 - KB3172985 (OS Build 10586.494)
June 14, 2016 - KB3163018 (OS Build 10586.420)
May 10, 2016 - KB3156421 (OS Build 10586.318)
April 12, 2016 - KB3147458 (OS Build 10586.218)
March 8, 2016 - KB3140768 (OS Build 10586.164)
March 1, 2016 - KB3140743 (OS Build 10586.122)
February 9, 2016 - KB3135173 (OS Build 10586.104)

My guess is, you had trouble after 10586.494 was installed.

Using the KB number, you can see what changes it added. Maybe.
It's likely to have received a new win32k.sys (kernel).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172985

*******

http://www.infoworld.com/article/309...-10586494.html

"The latest Windows 10 cumulative update --
KB 3172985 -- seems to be working well.

more than a few complaints about failures to install,
there are few reports of immediate problems." ---

If you had a problem, you'd look for something "custom"
in your setup, such as moving junction points for your
home directory, some set of AV/spyware packages installed,
or anything else out of the ordinary. If there were problems,
the guy who writes that column would report them.

Paul

En el artículo , critcher dennis_gangenore
escribió:

Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore

Wonderful isn't it, an update you aren't told about, have no information
about, no control over, can't choose whether and when to install, breaks
your system to the point you have to do a restore to recover.

What if you're not technically-minded and don't know what to do?

And people actually install this **** because it's "free"?!? !What's
*wrong* with you?

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On 7/18/2016 7:15 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , critcher dennis_gangenore
escribió:

Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore

Wonderful isn't it, an update you aren't told about, have no information
about, no control over, can't choose whether and when to install, breaks
your system to the point you have to do a restore to recover.

What if you're not technically-minded and don't know what to do?

And people actually install this **** because it's "free"?!? !What's
*wrong* with you?

http://www.howtogeek.com/262477/how-...dows-8-and-10/

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On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:15:15 +0100, critcher
wrote in


Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.

It's supposed to do that so as to encourage you to buy new hardware.
That makes the hardware manufacturers happy and beholding to MS.

Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

Not me. Still using WinXPsp3 and Win7pro with updates turned off. They
do everything I want.

On 07/18/16 12:53, Good Guy so wittily quipped:
On 18/07/2016 20:15, critcher wrote:
Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

Do you know which kb was it that cased this problem. Perhaps you could
research into it and post back.


KB3035583, the one that put Win-10-nic on there in the FIRST place???

In message , Zaidy036
writes
On 7/18/2016 7:15 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Wonderful isn't it, an update you aren't told about, have no information
about, no control over, can't choose whether and when to install, breaks
your system to the point you have to do a restore to recover.

What if you're not technically-minded and don't know what to do?

And people actually install this **** because it's "free"?!? !What's
*wrong* with you?

http://www.howtogeek.com/262477/how-...nection-as-met
ered-in-windows-8-and-10/

OK, so I have a machine where I have to maintain an old driver for it to
work.
If I let updates run, this driver is replaced instantly with the current
unsuitable driver.
I have set the machine to have an unmetered connection, and it all works
fine, except that I get no updates at all.

Is the only way to get normal updates now to seek out each one manually
and try to apply them individually? Is there a simple way of doing this?

I actually do want to have Windows 10 on this machine to try to use the
more advanced diagnostics in the OS, but I really don't want hassle like
this and don't have the time to keep researching and testing the OS
itself.
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Bill

Bill wrote:
In message , Zaidy036
writes
On 7/18/2016 7:15 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Wonderful isn't it, an update you aren't told about, have no information
about, no control over, can't choose whether and when to install, breaks
your system to the point you have to do a restore to recover.

What if you're not technically-minded and don't know what to do?

And people actually install this **** because it's "free"?!? What's
*wrong* with you?

http://www.howtogeek.com/262477/how-...nection-as-met
ered-in-windows-8-and-10/

OK, so I have a machine where I have to maintain an old driver for it to
work.
If I let updates run, this driver is replaced instantly with the current
unsuitable driver.
I have set the machine to have an unmetered connection, and it all works
fine, except that I get no updates at all.

Is the only way to get normal updates now to seek out each one manually
and try to apply them individually? Is there a simple way of doing this?

I actually do want to have Windows 10 on this machine to try to use the
more advanced diagnostics in the OS, but I really don't want hassle like
this and don't have the time to keep researching and testing the OS itself.

Start with this list. This web page should be updated
each month, with a new cumulative. Installing the top-most
one should be enough (as they're cumulative).

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...update-history

July 12, 2016 - KB3172985 (OS Build 10586.494)
June 14, 2016 - KB3163018 (OS Build 10586.420)
May 10, 2016 - KB3156421 (OS Build 10586.318)
April 12, 2016 - KB3147458 (OS Build 10586.218)
March 8, 2016 - KB3140768 (OS Build 10586.164)
March 1, 2016 - KB3140743 (OS Build 10586.122)
February 9, 2016 - KB3135173 (OS Build 10586.104)

Use a copy of Internet Explorer (not Edge!). The following site
uses an ActiveX plugin for the Shopping Cart interface.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172985

And you can see the cumulative update for July is 500MB
or 900MB. And it could have just about anything in it,
if they wanted to push it that way.

I would hope the drivers are arranged as separate
downloads by later calls to Windows Update. So by
downloading the 900MB one for x64 and installing it,
you could keep your old driver. There might be a requirement
that "old drivers" be the installable kind. if you were
relying on a driver originally supplied with the OS,
again, there would be a risk the update could change
something.

But this chit-chat is all rather pointless, as Aug.3, 2016,
the Anniversary Edition (a 3.5GB download) will be coming
in. And for a person such as yourself, in a precarious
position, I would predict a "driver disaster". Now is a
perfect time to do a backup, for later extrication.

~Aug 3, 2016 - Anniversary Edition (full OS, C:\Windows.old, etc)
July 12, 2016 - KB3172985 (OS Build 10586.494)
June 14, 2016 - KB3163018 (OS Build 10586.420)

And for myself, this would be a perfect time for Microsoft
to ruin my three Win10 installs. As none of my video cards
are in "support status" by the manufacturer. So I guess
I'll be in a mess too. I don't know if my single Crimson
driver, will be "valid" for the Anniversary Edition.

Paul

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:15:08 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

En el artículo , critcher dennis_gangenore
escribió:

Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore

Wonderful isn't it, an update you aren't told about, have no information
about, no control over, can't choose whether and when to install, breaks
your system to the point you have to do a restore to recover.

What if you're not technically-minded and don't know what to do?

And people actually install this **** because it's "free"?!? !What's
*wrong* with you?

Nicely put & so very, very true !

On 18/07/2016 20:53, Good Guy wrote:
On 18/07/2016 20:15, critcher wrote:
Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.
Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

Do you know which kb was it that cased this problem. Perhaps you could
research into it and post back.

--
With over 350 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.


kb3149135 installed on 17/7
adobe flash kb3174060
cumulative kb3172985
mal tool kb 890830

all for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems

asus z97-k mobo
gtx 970 vid card
16 gig memory

all the above are in the queue for installation now.

VinnyB wrote:

Had an update to my win 10 pro Sunday night, god did it cause problems.

It's supposed to do that so as to encourage you to buy new hardware.
That makes the hardware manufacturers happy and beholding to MS.

Had to do a system restore. Never had problem with updates till this
"critical update".
Anyone else suffer?

Not me. Still using WinXPsp3 and Win7pro with updates turned off. They
do everything I want.

Ditto. I am being forced to use W10 at work though. I wanted to use
reliable W7, but IT refused.
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