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Old May 14th 20, 11:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

Tutorial: How to enable the (free'ish) Telnet Client in Windows 10

Start run cmd{enter}
c:\ telnet
'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Start run cmd{enter}
c:\ dism /online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:TelnetClient
Error: 740
Elevated permissions are required to run DISM.
Use an elevated command prompt to complete these tasks.

Start run cmd{control+shift+enter}
c:\ dism /online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:TelnetClient
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.18362.1
Image Version: 10.0.18363.836
Enabling feature(s)
[==========================100.0%================== ========]
The operation completed successfully.

Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client
c:\ telnet
Escape Character is 'CTRL+]'
Microsoft Telnet
help
set ?
quit


See also:
o https://putty.org/
o https://www.smarthomebeginner.com/best-ssh-clients-windows-putty-alternatives/
o https://sourceforge.net/projects/dtelnet/
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Old May 14th 20, 11:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Mike Easter
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

Arlen Holder wrote:
Tutorial: How to enable the (free'ish) Telnet Client in Windows 10


That seems unnecessarily complicated.

It is a windows feature. You can turn it on in by point and click using
such as the control panel and programs and win features.

Altho' navigating w/ the mouse isn't really any faster than commands
which work.

You could command the package manager:

WinKey R
pkgmgr /iu:”TelnetClient”

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Old May 14th 20, 11:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Robin Goodfellow
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Mike Easter wrote in :

Arlen Holder wrote:
Tutorial: How to enable the (free'ish) Telnet Client in Windows 10


That seems unnecessarily complicated.

It is a windows feature. You can turn it on in by point and click using
such as the control panel and programs and win features.

Altho' navigating w/ the mouse isn't really any faster than commands
which work.

You could command the package manager:

WinKey R
pkgmgr /iu:”TelnetClient”


Just in case you may have stumbled into Linux
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Old May 14th 20, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Robin Goodfellow wrote:
Mike Easter

You could command the package manager:

WinKey R
pkgmgr /iu:”TelnetClient”


Just in case you may have stumbled into Linux

In linux we don't call it a WinKey :-)

Some don't like to call it a super key because it has a Win logo on it,
so they call it a system key.

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Old May 15th 20, 12:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Alan Baker[_3_]
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

On 2020-05-14 3:18 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
Tutorial: How to enable the (free'ish) Telnet Client in Windows 10

Start run cmd{enter}
c:\ telnet **** 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external
command,
**** operable program or batch file.

Start run cmd{enter}
c:\ dism /online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:TelnetClient
**** Error: 740
**** Elevated permissions are required to run DISM.
**** Use an elevated command prompt to complete these tasks.

Start run cmd{control+shift+enter}
c:\ dism /online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:TelnetClient
**** Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
**** Version: 10.0.18362.1
**** Image Version: 10.0.18363.836
**** Enabling feature(s)
**** [==========================100.0%================== ========]
**** The operation completed successfully.

Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client
c:\ telnet
**** Escape Character is 'CTRL+]'
**** Microsoft Telnet
help
set ?
quit


See also:
o https://putty.org/
o
https://www.smarthomebeginner.com/best-ssh-clients-windows-putty-alternatives/

o https://sourceforge.net/projects/dtelnet/


You are a never-ending font of next-to-useless knowledge.

LMGTFY:

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=telnet+windows+10


First (non-ad) link:

https://www.rootusers.com/how-to-enable-the-telnet-client-in-windows-10/

'Enabling the telnet client through command line

Run the below command in command prompt with administrator permissions.

dism /online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:TelnetClient'

Except (of course), they mention that you don't have to use the command
line:

'Enabling the telnet client through the graphical user interface

Click the start button, then start typing “Turn Windows features on or
off”, and select this option, as shown below.

The “Turn Windows Features on or off” window should open, scroll down
and select “Telnet Client”.'

And they mention something you failed to mention:

'Already have telnet installed but still failing?

In some cases you must run command prompt or powershell as administrator
in order to issue the telnet command, otherwise it will give the same
error as if it was not enabled at all.'
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Old May 15th 20, 12:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

In response to what Mike Easter wrote :

That seems unnecessarily complicated.


Hi Mike,

We both go way back, where you're one of the handful of purposefully
helpful people on this newsgroup who understand the value of net tutorials.

Most people haven't written a single tutorial in their entire lives.
o All those people _can_ do, is denigrate those who do write them.

The beauty of writing these tutorials is that people who are purposefully
helpful pitch in to provide new ideas, and to flesh out existing ideas.

That way we all benefit since everyone is working together to help out.
o To that end, I've added all your suggestions to the tutorial (as usual).

It is a windows feature. You can turn it on in by point and click using
such as the control panel and programs and win features.


You can; but it's notoriously difficult to keep a text tutorial updated
when the GUI constantly changes, which you're well aware happens with
Windows 10.

Nothing wrong with describing the GUI, but it takes more words.
o For example, on my system, here's how to access the GUI...

1. Start Run control
2. Programs Programs and Features Turn Windows features on or off
3. Windows Features: (Change from...) [_]Telnet Client
Windows Features: (Change to.....) [x]Telnet Client
4. [OK] {searching for required files}{applying changes}
{Windows completed the requested changes.}
5. [Close]

Although in general I agree GUIs are fine if they're easily described...
o And if they don't change a lot over time.

Altho' navigating w/ the mouse isn't really any faster than commands
which work.


The problem with describing mouse navigation is that it changes a lot in
Windows, and it usually takes far more of a description in text tutorials.

You could command the package manager:


You could; but Microsoft says you shouldn't.
o Microsoft says to use the same method that I used if you're gonna do it.

C:\ pkgmgr
Windows Package Manager
Note: PkgMgr.exe has been deprecated.
Please update your scripts to use DISM.exe to install, configure,
and update features and packages for Windows.
See http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=195329 for more information.
DISM - Deployment Image Servicing and Management Technical Reference for Windows
WinKey R
pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient"


While Microsoft clearly deprecated the package manager, I will add this
sequence to the text-only tutorial for those who want to know all the
possible ways to enable/disable the telnet client. Thanks.

1. Start run cmd == note you don't need an admin command window
2. C:\ telnet
'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
3. C:\ pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient"
{note there is no feedback}
4. C:\ telnet
5. Microsoft Telnet quit
Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client
Escape Character is 'CTRL+]'

In summary, your purposefully helpful information is not only appreciated,
but I added it to the tutorial so that others will benefit in the future.
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Old May 15th 20, 12:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Alan Baker[_3_]
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

On 2020-05-14 4:44 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
In response to what Mike Easter wrote :

That seems unnecessarily complicated.


Hi Mike,

We both go way back, where you're one of the handful of purposefully
helpful people on this newsgroup who understand the value of net tutorials.

Most people haven't written a single tutorial in their entire lives.
o All those people _can_ do, is denigrate those who do write them.

The beauty of writing these tutorials is that people who are purposefully
helpful pitch in to provide new ideas, and to flesh out existing ideas.

That way we all benefit since everyone is working together to help out.
o To that end, I've added all your suggestions to the tutorial (as usual).

It is a windows feature.* You can turn it on in by point and click
using such as the control panel and programs and win features.


You can; but it's notoriously difficult to keep a text tutorial updated
when the GUI constantly changes, which you're well aware happens with
Windows 10.

Nothing wrong with describing the GUI, but it takes more words.
o For example, on my system, here's how to access the GUI...

1. Start Run control
2. Programs Programs and Features Turn Windows features on or off
3. Windows Features: (Change from...) [_]Telnet Client
* Windows Features: (Change to.....) [x]Telnet Client 4. [OK]
{searching for required files}{applying changes}
* {Windows completed the requested changes.}
5. [Close]





Although in general I agree GUIs are fine if they're easily described...
o And if they don't change a lot over time.

Altho' navigating w/ the mouse isn't really any faster than commands
which work.


The problem with describing mouse navigation is that it changes a lot in
Windows, and it usually takes far more of a description in text tutorials.

You could command the package manager:


You could; but Microsoft says you shouldn't.
o Microsoft says to use the same method that I used if you're gonna do it.

*C:\ pkgmgr
***** Windows Package Manager
***** Note: PkgMgr.exe has been deprecated. ***** Please update your
scripts to use DISM.exe to install, configure, ***** and update features
and packages for Windows.
***** See http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=195329 for more
information.
***** DISM - Deployment Image Servicing and Management Technical
Reference for Windows
WinKey R
pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient"


While Microsoft clearly deprecated the package manager, I will add this
sequence to the text-only tutorial for those who want to know all the
possible ways to enable/disable the telnet client. Thanks.

1. Start run cmd == note you don't need an admin command window
2. C:\ telnet
****** 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
****** operable program or batch file.
3. C:\ pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient"
****** {note there is no feedback}
4. C:\ telnet
5. Microsoft Telnet quit
****** Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Client
****** Escape Character is 'CTRL+]'

In summary, your purposefully helpful information is not only appreciated,
but I added it to the tutorial so that others will benefit in the future.


This is an utterly trivial "tutorial", Arlen.

Anyone with half a brain could find the answer for his or her self
whenever it was required.
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Old May 15th 20, 01:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 22:37:20 +0000 (UTC), Robin Goodfellow
wrote:

Just in case you may have stumbled into Linux


Hi Robin Goodfellow,

I'm assuming you're asking for the DISM commands to enable WSFL?
o Here is what I have (unfinished) in my log files...

Is this what you'd like us to flesh out for everyone to benefit from?
o Note that I gave up when M$ wouldn't give me the free Ubuntu software!

1. Start run cmd{control+shift+enter} == unambiguous admin prompt!
2. C:\ DISM.exe /Online /Get-Features | find "Linux"
Feature Name : Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux
3. C:\ Dism /Online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux /All
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.18362.1
Image Version: 10.0.18363.836
Enabling feature(s)
[==========================100.0%================== ========]
The operation completed successfully.
Restart Windows to complete this operation.
Do you want to restart the computer now? (Y/N)
4. Y

However, as per Mike Easter's purposefully helpful request, we should
probably add a test for proof that it's working, and we should likely add
how to enable the Windows Subsystem for Linux from the control panel, and
from PowerShell, don't you think?

Powershell: (as administrator)
o Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online | Where-Object {$_.FeatureName -like "*linux"} | Format-Table
o Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName "Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux" -All

Control Panel:
1. Start Run control
2. Programs Programs and Features Turn Windows features on or off
3. Windows Features: (Change from...) [_]Windows Subsystem for Linux
Windows Features: (Change to.....) [x]Windows Subsystem for Linux
4. [OK] {searching for required files}{applying changes}
{Windows completed the requested changes.}
{Windows needs to reboot your PC to finish installing the requested changes}
5. [Restart now]

Most likely we should probably suggest getting Ubuntu 20.04, do you think?
o https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ubuntu-2004-lts/9n6svws3rx71
20200423 build of Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
Requires at least Windows 10 build 16237
o Start run winver == Version 1909 (OS Build *18363.836*)
https://i.postimg.cc/SRnsj7TN/patchtuesday01.jpg

My problem at this point is that I will _never_ have a login to Microsoft
if I can help it; so the goal is to obtain the ISO without logging in.

When I press "Get" in the Microsoft web site, I get the error:
"This file does not have an app associated with it for performing
this action. Please install an app or, if one is already installed,
create an association in the Default Apps Settings page."

I had stopped at that point, because I was only testing it out.

Hence, what remains is to add how a user can add Ubuntu 20.04
without needing any login to Microsoft and without enabling the Microsoft
Store.

Dunno if the normal Ubuntu 20.04 ISO will work though...
o https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop

Specifically:
https://mirrors.lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu-releases/20.04/ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso
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Old May 15th 20, 01:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Arlen Holder wrote:
Hence, what remains is to add how a user can add Ubuntu 20.04 without
needing any login to Microsoft and without enabling the Microsoft
Store.

Dunno if the normal Ubuntu 20.04 ISO will work though... o
https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop


No; use an .iso specifically for WSL

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WSL

That page has instructions for getting a daily build of 20.04 for WSL
from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/

.... and for using it.

You could also 'sign in' to the MS one w/ just giving a throwaway email,
not a phone or skype.

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Old May 15th 20, 02:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.msdos.batch
Arlen Holder
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In response to what Mike Easter wrote :

In linux we don't call it a WinKey :-)

Some don't like to call it a super key because it has a Win logo on it,
so they call it a system key.


Hi Mike,

You caught me in another mistake, for which I appreciate you pointed out.
o *Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/pEhuvzzFBTU
And in the purposefully helpful subject change by Robin Goodfellow:
o How to enable or sisable UEFI in Windows 10, for Linux purposes
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/pEhuvzzFBTU/k_j_zlHVAQAJ

To show I agree with you, see this acceptance of my "Start Run" guilt!
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKyz8sXv/run01.jpg

We both go way back where I'm never afraid to learn from your advice.
o You're right; I'm wrong.

Old habits die hard, where I still type "Start Run" in my numerous
tutorials even though, technically, it's not that at all... for most
people the GUI method is likely a right mouse button on the Windows
flag, and then "Run" in the resulting popup menu (or, your keyboard
sequence using the keyboard "flag" keypress).

In reality, I use neither since I use the "Run" command all the time,
all day, every day (maybe, oh, I don't know, if I claim a number then
the always purposefully un-helpful people like Alan Baker or Cybe(r)
Wizard will call me a liar and then demand I prove a number even as
they, themselves, have _never_ ever add any adult value in any post
in their entire lives).
https://i.postimg.cc/SRnsj7TN/patchtuesday01.jpg

As we've discussed in the past, I keep an Excel sheet of commands
that work off of the "Run" so I just bring up that excel file by:
Start run run

Where, here's just a _sample_ of the commands you can run from the
o *Over 250 Start Run commands (please improve this Start Run commands list)*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/cc1lGn3ty0E/DH_FxVCjAAAJ

Which we've tried to improve upon, over the years... for example:
o *Does an even more EFFICIENT method exist to access complex scattered*
*files on all versions of Windows than this method?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/Q8tSHPnqg8I/bPSVdDjOAAAJ

Note: Almost every command I need to run, I have "tied" to that Run box
which is why it's the first thing on my taskbar as shown above & below:
o *Quick tutorial for creating easy (Start Run) access to lookup files on Windows*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/5LxGOixwwWs/q8wVoJ3mBAAJ

One interesting side note is how many idiotic web pages on the net
advise people to _search_ for "cmd", just so that they can then right
click and then tell it to run as an administrator.
o *Efficient Windows Admin command prompt of any color in any desired location*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/8VZQJyKeAvE/jWJy5GLgBAAJ

It's far easier to just press "control + shift + enter", as in:
Start Run cmd{control + shift + enter}
As per this seminal discussion in the permanent Usenet archives:
o *What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administrator*
*window simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.msdos.batch/ee2rqSSOkS4/kmdsXWC1AgAJ

See also these somewhat related purposefully helpful tutorials:
o *Efficient Windows Admin command prompt of any color in any desired location*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/uDma6L56jPw/Q2f8m4DVCAAJ
o *Please follow this cut-and-paste tutorial to get batch command shortcuts working perfectly on Windows*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/1PzeGP4KMTU/tTbcd9zxAAAJ
o *What Windows freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/ySVGbayhLSk/zXK3PjijAwAJ

In summary, you're right that I specified the "start run" sequence wrong(ly),
where old habits die hard - and - where - in fact - I simply "pin" the damn
thing to the taskbar as you can see in the image I posted above.

Interestingly, when I looked up _how_ I did that (long ago),
I found an old unsolved thread, where I clearly solved the problem
but I apparently didn't update the thread (which is a rare mistake on my part,
so that's another mistake you helped me find, which I thank you for!).
o *Is it even possible to pin the RUN command icon to the taskbar*
*WITHOUT surrendering to a Windows Search?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.msdos.batch/Ik_ejNXbrrw/zmAPR5c8CwAJ

This is what I had posted long ago in that question:
https://i.postimg.cc/2jtPybp0/run01.jpg
This is what I use nowadays:
https://i.postimg.cc/SRnsj7TN/patchtuesday01.jpg
Where the pinned "Run.lnk" shortcut Properties a
Location: C:\Users\{uname}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Interne t Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar
As shown below which I just screenshotted for you:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKyz8sXv/run01.jpg
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Old May 15th 20, 03:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.msdos.batch
Arlen Holder
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Ooooooops... (one of the screenshot links was bad)...

o https://i.postimg.cc/2jtPybp0/run01.jpg
o https://i.postimg.cc/KzbZkxSh/run02.jpg
o https://i.postimg.cc/SRnsj7TN/patchtuesday01.jpg

In summary, the "old" (unanswered) question was _how_ to pin that "Run.lnk"
to the taskbar without having to search for it in Windows (i.e., just
create it); and, in summary, I was agreeing with Mike Easter that the Win+R
key combo works fine for people who don't use that shortcut all day every
day, which is why it's pinned in my taskbar.
o *Is it even possible to pin the RUN command icon to the taskbar*
*WITHOUT surrendering to a Windows Search?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.msdos.batch/Ik_ejNXbrrw/zmAPR5c8CwAJ
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Old May 15th 20, 03:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
JJ[_11_]
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

On Fri, 15 May 2020 01:44:53 +0200, Arlen Holder wrote:

Most people haven't written a single tutorial in their entire lives.
o All those people _can_ do, is denigrate those who do write them.

The beauty of writing these tutorials is that people who are purposefully
helpful pitch in to provide new ideas, and to flesh out existing ideas.

That way we all benefit since everyone is working together to help out.
o To that end, I've added all your suggestions to the tutorial (as usual).


Basic Windows usage guides/tutorials are already covered by guides/tutorials
for previous Windows versions/revisions as early as Vista or even 95,
depending on the topics. Refurbishing old guides/tutorials won't make them
more informative or up to date, because they're already covered or nothing
is new in those parts.

You could; but Microsoft says you shouldn't.
o Microsoft says to use the same method that I used if you're gonna do it.


That's just Microsoft's generic warning for all users. You shouldn't do/use
something if you don't know what you're doing, or what the outcome is,
including any side effects it may bring. Otherwise, it's fine. You see,
Microsoft thinks all of its users are morons.
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Old May 15th 20, 04:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware,alt.msdos.batch
Arlen Holder
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Default Tutorial: How to enable or sisable UEFI in Windows 10, for Linux purposes

In response to what Mike Easter wrote :

Dunno if the normal Ubuntu 20.04 ISO will work though... o
https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop


No; use an .iso specifically for WSL


Hi Mike,

Ooooooh. Nice! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WSL
"The recommended way to install Ubuntu on WSL
is through the Microsoft Store... [but for those who don't
want to further erode their privacy to M$]... Ubuntu WSL
distribution rootfs daily builds are available for download"
https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/

THANK YOU for pointing to a _potential_ answer to the question of how to
install Ubuntu 20.04 as a WSL _without_ having to log into M$.

I haven't looked in a while, but when I last looked, NOBODY wrote how to do
this with PRIVACY, which, as you're well aware over the past few decades,
is ALWAYS my goal.

Unfortunately, this web page is about as confusing as it can get:
https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/
Which file is the download for the Ubuntu 20.04 WSL release, for example?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WSL


Thanks for that link which will be useful for writing up how to install
Windows Subsystem for Linux on Windows 10 _without_ needing to log into
M$ (logging into M$ is just the wrong way to do anything, IMHO).

It's not as easy as just reading what's on that web page though...
o At least not yet... so I'm testing out the new commands for now...

I just tested that "wsl" command, which is a nice test of _not_ having it!
C:\ wsl
Windows Subsystem for Linux has no installed distributions.
Distributions can be installed by visiting the Microsoft Sto
https://aka.ms/wslstore
See also:
o https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/reference

That page has instructions for getting a daily build of 20.04 for WSL
from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/
... and for using it.


They seem to have two methods of installing Ubuntu 20.04 as a WSL:
1. C:\ wsl --import Focal C:\app\os\wsl\focal FileName
(Where I can't yet figure out the "filename" for the Focal release.)
https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/ (but what file?)

2. Installing Ubuntu on WSL by sideloading the .appx
(Where, unfortunately, the 20.04 release doesn't appear to exist)
C:\ Add-AppxPackage .\CanonicalGroupLimited.Ubuntu18.04onWindows_1804. 2018.817.0_x64__79rhkp1fndgsc.Appx
https://wsldownload.azureedge.net/CanonicalGroupLimited.Ubuntu18.04onWindows_1804.20 18.817.0_x64__79rhkp1fndgsc.Appx

You could also 'sign in' to the MS one w/ just giving a throwaway email,
not a phone or skype.


Sigh. I must have (oh, I'd better not estimate as the psychopaths like
Dan Purgert & Cybe(r) Wizard will pin me down to a number), _lots_ of
throwaway email addresses - with and without accompanying VPN - but I'd
really just want to find a good download so that I don't have to log into
M$ just to get Linux.

Anyway, here's a quick summary:
a. I downloaded the dual-boot Ubuntu 20.04 but you told me afterward
that this non-WSL Ubuntu ISO won't work for Windows 10 WSL:
https://mirrors.lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu-releases/20.04/ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso
Name: ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso
Size: 2715254784 bytes (2589 MiB)
SHA256: E5B72E9CFE20988991C9CD87BDE43C0B691E3B67B01F76D23F 8150615883CE11
b. I _wanted_ to get the WSL 20.04 using "wsl", but the page they reference
to obtain the ISO is so chock full of "stuff", I can't even _find_ it.
https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/
c. So I ended up getting the _older_ WSL Ubuntu because I could _find_ it!
https://wsldownload.azureedge.net/CanonicalGroupLimited.Ubuntu18.04onWindows_1804.20 18.817.0_x64__79rhkp1fndgsc.Appx
Name: CanonicalGroupLimited.Ubuntu18.04onWindows_1804.20 18.817.0_x64__79rhkp1fndgsc.Appx
Size: 224629284 bytes (214 MiB)
SHA256: 96E4E3E336F08DDE1DF81FA9C266C5C7750BA92729857E92BD E36BF84A1DB002

With "sideloading" already enabled in Win10, I doubleclicked on the "appx"
file, but it just popped up a question "How do you want to open this file".
o "Look for another app on this PC..."
Hmmmmmmm.... what the heck app am I supposed to open it with?
o C:\Program Files\WindowsPowerShell\Modules (but which executable?)

Looking up how to install an "appx" file on Windows 10, there's this
mystery "graphical installer" which didn't show up for me:
https://www.howtogeek.com/285410/how-to-install-.appx-or-.appxbundle-software-on-windows-10/

I'm a little leery of the PowerShell method as I _always_ put software
where it belongs, so I have to specify where I want it, which is
gonna be something logical, like:
o C:\app\os\wsl\focal, or,
o C:\app\os\wsl\ubuntu20.04, or,
o C:\app\os\wsl\20.04
etc.

Hell, let's try it:
1. Start Run powershell
2. PS Start-Process powershell -verb runAs == optionally run as admin
3. PS Add-AppxPackage -Path "C:\software\iso\ubuntu\CanonicalGroupLimited.Ubun tu18.04onWindows_1804.2018.817.0_x64__79rhkp1fndgs c.Appx"

Crap. I was hoping (beyond hope) it would ask me _where_ I wanted it to go.
o Let's dig a bit to find out _where_ the heck M$ put it...
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/appx/add-appxpackage
o OK. At least I can move it to where it belongs, which I'll do later.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/appx/move-appxpackage

Without even knowing _where_ M$ put it, I will try to test it out:
1. Start Run cmd{control+shift+enter}
2. C:\ wsl
Windows Subsystem for Linux has no installed distributions.
Distributions can be installed by visiting the Microsoft Sto
https://aka.ms/wslstore
3. C:\ ubuntu1804.exe
Installing, this may take a few minutes... \
Please create a default UNIX user account.
The username does not need to match your Windows username.
For more information visit: https://aka.ms/wslusers
Enter new UNIX username: {enter any desired uname}
Enter new UNIX password: {enter any desired passwd}
Retype new UNIX password: {re-enter that same passwd}
passwd: password updated successfully
Installation successful!
To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo command".
See "man sudo_root" for details.
4. Run some "linux" commands at the "uname@pcname:~$" prompt:
$ whoami
uname
$ pwd
/home/uname
$ mkdir foo
$ touch foo/bar.txt
$ cd foo
$ ls
$ vim bar.txt
$ vipw
vipw: Permission denied.
vipw: Couldn't lock file: Permission denied
vipw: /etc/passwd is unchanged
$ sudo vipw
[sudo] password for x: {enter password for uname}
Select an editor. To change later, run 'select-editor'.
1. /bin/nano ---- easiest
2. /usr/bin/vim.basic
3. /usr/bin/vim.tiny
4. /bin/ed
2
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
daemon:x:1:1:daemon:/usr/sbin:/usr/sbin/nologin
bin:x:2:2:bin:/bin:/usr/sbin/nologin
etc.
$ firefox
Command 'firefox' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install firefox
$ sudo apt-get install firefox
Need to get 58.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 237 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
$ exit
5. Test it out to see if you can get it back!
Start Run cmd
C:\ wsl

Now the default prompt changes to:
uname@pcname:/mnt/c/Users/uname$

This proof of concept is getting long so I'll stop documenting here,
as I need to figure out where the heck it _put_ this stuff.

Do you know _where_ the heck it put the Ubuntu file system?
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  #14  
Old May 15th 20, 05:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

In response to what JJ wrote :

Refurbishing old guides/tutorials won't make them
more informative or up to date, because they're already covered or nothing
is new in those parts.


Hi JJ,

All I want now, is to find a tutorial for installing WSL for Ubuntu 20.04
that does not require me to log into anything and which lets me put it
where I want it to go (e.g., C:\app\os\wsl\ubuntu20.04).

Do you know where that tutorial may be?

The best I have, so far, is what Mike Easter kindly pointed me to:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.msdos.batch/z5ac1dU0PzQ/nIlp-pCtAAAJ

But that only resulted in 18.04 being installed (who knows where it went).
1. Start Run winver
Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.836)
https://i.postimg.cc/SRnsj7TN/patchtuesday01.jpg
2. Start Run cmd
3. C:\ wsl
4. $ lsb_release -a
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic
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  #15  
Old May 15th 20, 09:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10

On Fri, 15 May 2020 00:18:35 +0200, Arlen Holder
wrote:

Tutorial: How to enable the (free'ish) Telnet Client in Windows 10


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