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  #256  
Old January 27th 19, 01:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Chris
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:10:27 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Most people will go running for hours and sweat continuously without any
worry. Sweating is the same as shivering but for the opposite reason.


And their core body temperature doesn't really fluctuate. That's why they
sweat. They also drink copiously otherwise they'd stop sweating and get
heat stroke.


And with shivering your core doesn't change much either. The first
degree or two makes you shiver, preventing further drops in temperature.
Just like the first degree or two the other way makes you sweat, cooling
you down and preventing further increases in temperature.


You don't get it do you? Being +/- 2 degrees from normal temperature is
bad. That's why we have medical terms for them: hypothermia and fever.

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.


Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.


What on earth do you mean by that? I'll be more clear - why should I
respect medical "science" when in the 21st century we're still suffering
from colds, flu, cancer, and fifty billion other ailments?


If you lived in any other century (other than 20th) you'd already be dead.

In those days,large proportions of people died by the age of 5, simple
illness by today's standards were fatal or were crippling and luge
expectancy was in the 40s. Common diseases like tetanus, TB, small pox,
polio, whooping cough, etc are things of the past (in the UK). Organ
transplants, keyhole surgery, chemotherapy, and other ground breaking drugs
are phenomenal success stories in human health.

A doubling of the average life expectancy in 170 years is as close to a
miracle as is possible with science.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ime/2015-09-09

Colds aren't a problem if you're moderately healthy and we have flu
vaccines which work mostly well - the influenza virus is bugger and won't
keep still. we are not immortal so we have to die of something. Currently
that's cancer or heart disease. In the future it'll be something else.


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  #257  
Old January 27th 19, 01:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Chris
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:18:20 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-23 05:10, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:


[...]
[The NHS definition of hypothermia is] not a definition, it's a
belief, by an organisation that couldn't
organise a ****up in a brewery.

The NHS didn't invent hypothermia. It's an actual thing. Every Google hit
says the same thing. Here's some actual science...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...23085007000916

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.


"Commander" Kinsey is a special kind of twit. He tries new nyms when he
realises most people have kill-filed him,


You don't get it do you? The killfiling brigade are a bunch of childish
morons. I don't care if someone doesn't like my opinions and killfiles
me, but to jump up and down and publicise that they don't like me is
beyond a joke. And what's worse is responding to my post, then
killfiling me AFTERWARDS, so they get the last word in - the ultimate childishness.

and for a couple or three
posts he sounds quite sane. Then something triggers his characteristic
weirdness, which eventually becomes incomprehensible. About the only
thing you can be sure of is that he hates just about everything that
makes his life in the UK possible and worth living. Except ****ups in
pubs, a method of achieving a pseudo-zen-like absence of thought
peculiar to yobs.


Just because I show common sense and realise that 90% of the population are idiots....

Take the IQ test. 50% of people have a 2 digit IQ by definition. Have
you ever tried having a conversation with one?

It's high time we let idiots die off instead of protecting them with
benefits, NHS, etc, etc. If you can't survive by yourself, we don't want you on Earth.


That's Michael Gove level of stupidity. I'd expect better numeracy from
someone with a physics degree.

  #258  
Old January 27th 19, 02:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:38:50 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:18:20 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-23 05:10, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

[...]
[The NHS definition of hypothermia is] not a definition, it's a
belief, by an organisation that couldn't
organise a ****up in a brewery.

The NHS didn't invent hypothermia. It's an actual thing. Every Google hit
says the same thing. Here's some actual science...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...23085007000916

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.

"Commander" Kinsey is a special kind of twit. He tries new nyms when he
realises most people have kill-filed him,


You don't get it do you? The killfiling brigade are a bunch of childish
morons. I don't care if someone doesn't like my opinions and killfiles
me, but to jump up and down and publicise that they don't like me is
beyond a joke. And what's worse is responding to my post, then
killfiling me AFTERWARDS, so they get the last word in - the ultimate childishness.

and for a couple or three
posts he sounds quite sane. Then something triggers his characteristic
weirdness, which eventually becomes incomprehensible. About the only
thing you can be sure of is that he hates just about everything that
makes his life in the UK possible and worth living. Except ****ups in
pubs, a method of achieving a pseudo-zen-like absence of thought
peculiar to yobs.


Just because I show common sense and realise that 90% of the population are idiots....

Take the IQ test. 50% of people have a 2 digit IQ by definition. Have
you ever tried having a conversation with one?

It's high time we let idiots die off instead of protecting them with
benefits, NHS, etc, etc. If you can't survive by yourself, we don't want you on Earth.


That's Michael Gove level of stupidity. I'd expect better numeracy from
someone with a physics degree.


I assume you're referring to my statement about the IQ test. You do realise that an IQ of 100 is the average?
  #259  
Old January 27th 19, 02:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:32:19 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:10:27 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Most people will go running for hours and sweat continuously without any
worry. Sweating is the same as shivering but for the opposite reason.

And their core body temperature doesn't really fluctuate. That's why they
sweat. They also drink copiously otherwise they'd stop sweating and get
heat stroke.


And with shivering your core doesn't change much either. The first
degree or two makes you shiver, preventing further drops in temperature.
Just like the first degree or two the other way makes you sweat, cooling
you down and preventing further increases in temperature.


You don't get it do you? Being +/- 2 degrees from normal temperature is
bad.


No it isn't. Think about it, -17C from normal is death. 2 of 17 isn't much.

Anyway, just try it, go swimming in cold water until every muscle in your body is shivering, then notice that you didn't die or become ill in any way. 4000 people do toughguy.co.uk every year in England. Every one of them is shivering like **** at the end. How many fatalities have they had? None.

That's why we have medical terms for them: hypothermia and fever.


They're exaggerated. Better terms would be "a bit chilly" or "slightly warm".

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.


What on earth do you mean by that? I'll be more clear - why should I
respect medical "science" when in the 21st century we're still suffering
from colds, flu, cancer, and fifty billion other ailments?


If you lived in any other century (other than 20th) you'd already be dead.


No medicine has ever saved my life.

In those days,large proportions of people died by the age of 5, simple
illness by today's standards were fatal or were crippling and luge
expectancy was in the 40s. Common diseases like tetanus, TB, small pox,
polio, whooping cough, etc are things of the past (in the UK). Organ
transplants, keyhole surgery, chemotherapy, and other ground breaking drugs
are phenomenal success stories in human health.


No, they're ****ing us up. Because we now rely on medicine for everything, we're losing our natural immune systems. Plus survival of the fittest has gone out of the window, people who are made badly and should be removed from the gene pool are now reproducing and making more useless people.

A doubling of the average life expectancy in 170 years is as close to a
miracle as is possible with science.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ime/2015-09-09


It's ****. We should be able to live forever by now, I'm not impressed. Every other part of science has come about 10 times further.

Colds aren't a problem if you're moderately healthy and we have flu
vaccines which work mostly well - the influenza virus is bugger and won't
keep still. we are not immortal so we have to die of something. Currently
that's cancer or heart disease. In the future it'll be something else.

  #260  
Old January 27th 19, 02:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Stephen Wolstenholme[_6_]
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:16:08 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

No medicine has ever saved my life.


I thought that until I was rushed into hospital with dangerously low
blood pressure. I was told that people can die with very low blood
pressure. I assume the "cocktail" of drugs in the drip did something
as I was better within a day.

Steve

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  #261  
Old January 27th 19, 06:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Chris
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:32:19 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:10:27 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Most people will go running for hours and sweat continuously without any
worry. Sweating is the same as shivering but for the opposite reason.

And their core body temperature doesn't really fluctuate. That's why they
sweat. They also drink copiously otherwise they'd stop sweating and get
heat stroke.

And with shivering your core doesn't change much either. The first
degree or two makes you shiver, preventing further drops in temperature.
Just like the first degree or two the other way makes you sweat, cooling
you down and preventing further increases in temperature.


You don't get it do you? Being +/- 2 degrees from normal temperature is
bad.


No it isn't. Think about it, -17C from normal is death. 2 of 17 isn't much.

Anyway, just try it, go swimming in cold water until every muscle in your
body is shivering, then notice that you didn't die or become ill in any
way. 4000 people do toughguy.co.uk every year in England. Every one of
them is shivering like **** at the end. How many fatalities have they had? None.

That's why we have medical terms for them: hypothermia and fever.


They're exaggerated. Better terms would be "a bit chilly" or "slightly warm".


Medicine doesn't exaggerate.

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.

What on earth do you mean by that? I'll be more clear - why should I
respect medical "science" when in the 21st century we're still suffering
from colds, flu, cancer, and fifty billion other ailments?


If you lived in any other century (other than 20th) you'd already be dead.


No medicine has ever saved my life.


********! The very fact that you're alive is a success. It doesn't have to
have directly affected you: medicine will have kept your mother healthy
during pregnancy and avoided her or you dying during birth or shortly
after.

You will have been vaccinated and even if you hadn't your peers would have
been imparting heard immunity which you benefited from directly.

Good hygiene and sanitation of homes, and the reduction of disease in
animals.

All the above are examples of where science has contributed to you still
being alive and healthy well into adulthood. Nowadays people are so
accustomed to modern medicine that they don't realise how intrinsic to
their day to day well-being it is.

The anti-vaxxers are finding out, sadly...

In those days,large proportions of people died by the age of 5, simple
illness by today's standards were fatal or were crippling and luge
expectancy was in the 40s. Common diseases like tetanus, TB, small pox,
polio, whooping cough, etc are things of the past (in the UK). Organ
transplants, keyhole surgery, chemotherapy, and other ground breaking drugs
are phenomenal success stories in human health.


No, they're ****ing us up. Because we now rely on medicine for
everything, we're losing our natural immune systems. Plus survival of
the fittest has gone out of the window, people who are made badly and
should be removed from the gene pool are now reproducing and making more useless people.


That's a very unpleasant viewpoint.

A doubling of the average life expectancy in 170 years is as close to a
miracle as is possible with science.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ime/2015-09-09


It's ****. We should be able to live forever by now, I'm not impressed.


Hahahahahahaha! If we didn't die of old age the planet would be overrun and
we'd die of starvation instead.

Every other part of science has come about 10 times further.


Every other science is a piece of **** compared to biology.

  #262  
Old January 27th 19, 06:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:22:20 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:32:19 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:10:27 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Most people will go running for hours and sweat continuously without any
worry. Sweating is the same as shivering but for the opposite reason.

And their core body temperature doesn't really fluctuate. That's why they
sweat. They also drink copiously otherwise they'd stop sweating and get
heat stroke.

And with shivering your core doesn't change much either. The first
degree or two makes you shiver, preventing further drops in temperature.
Just like the first degree or two the other way makes you sweat, cooling
you down and preventing further increases in temperature.

You don't get it do you? Being +/- 2 degrees from normal temperature is
bad.


No it isn't. Think about it, -17C from normal is death. 2 of 17 isn't much.

Anyway, just try it, go swimming in cold water until every muscle in your
body is shivering, then notice that you didn't die or become ill in any
way. 4000 people do toughguy.co.uk every year in England. Every one of
them is shivering like **** at the end. How many fatalities have they had? None.

That's why we have medical terms for them: hypothermia and fever.


They're exaggerated. Better terms would be "a bit chilly" or "slightly warm".


Medicine doesn't exaggerate.


Of course it does. It's part of the modern namby pamby health and softy ****e. Wear a seatbelt, keep warm, disinfect everything, watch the sellby dates, it's pathetic.

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.

What on earth do you mean by that? I'll be more clear - why should I
respect medical "science" when in the 21st century we're still suffering
from colds, flu, cancer, and fifty billion other ailments?

If you lived in any other century (other than 20th) you'd already be dead.


No medicine has ever saved my life.


********! The very fact that you're alive is a success. It doesn't have to
have directly affected you: medicine will have kept your mother healthy
during pregnancy and avoided her or you dying during birth or shortly
after.


Pregnancy is a natural phenomenon, we don't need science for it to work.

You will have been vaccinated and even if you hadn't your peers would have
been imparting heard immunity which you benefited from directly.


Vaccines kill people, which is why many parents refuse to let heir kids get them.

Good hygiene and sanitation of homes, and the reduction of disease in
animals.


"Hygiene" kills off bacteria which we're supposed to encounter. What's happening is nobody has a decent immune system anymore.

All the above are examples of where science has contributed to you still
being alive and healthy well into adulthood. Nowadays people are so
accustomed to modern medicine that they don't realise how intrinsic to
their day to day well-being it is.

The anti-vaxxers are finding out, sadly...

In those days,large proportions of people died by the age of 5, simple
illness by today's standards were fatal or were crippling and luge
expectancy was in the 40s. Common diseases like tetanus, TB, small pox,
polio, whooping cough, etc are things of the past (in the UK). Organ
transplants, keyhole surgery, chemotherapy, and other ground breaking drugs
are phenomenal success stories in human health.


No, they're ****ing us up. Because we now rely on medicine for
everything, we're losing our natural immune systems. Plus survival of
the fittest has gone out of the window, people who are made badly and
should be removed from the gene pool are now reproducing and making more useless people.


That's a very unpleasant viewpoint.


But it works. It's called evolution. If we prevent it from happening, we'll all end up completely useless and reliant on medicine. And half the population will be sapping money from the rest on invalidity benefits.

A doubling of the average life expectancy in 170 years is as close to a
miracle as is possible with science.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ime/2015-09-09


It's ****. We should be able to live forever by now, I'm not impressed.


Hahahahahahaha! If we didn't die of old age the planet would be overrun and
we'd die of starvation instead.


You're such a ****ing idiot. So you prefer that people die off and we make new ones? What's wrong with living much longer and having less kids? Anyway, we still wouldn't be overrun if the average couple had two kids at some point in their life. So long as they don't think they should keep on having more just because they live longer....

Every other part of science has come about 10 times further.


Every other science is a piece of **** compared to biology.


Yeah right, look at current CPU design. 10nm dies. 6 trillion calculations per second on something the size of your fingernail. Yet we can't work out how the human body operates. The problem is not many people research biology, there isn't money it. If we ditched government funded stuff like the NHS in the UK, people would have to pay to get repaired, and companies would start investing in research.
  #263  
Old January 27th 19, 07:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:38:50 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:18:20 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-23 05:10, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

[...]
[The NHS definition of hypothermia is] not a definition, it's a
belief, by an organisation that couldn't
organise a ****up in a brewery.

The NHS didn't invent hypothermia. It's an actual thing. Every
Google hit
says the same thing. Here's some actual science...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...23085007000916

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.

"Commander" Kinsey is a special kind of twit. He tries new nyms when he
realises most people have kill-filed him,

You don't get it do you? The killfiling brigade are a bunch of childish
morons. I don't care if someone doesn't like my opinions and killfiles
me, but to jump up and down and publicise that they don't like me is
beyond a joke. And what's worse is responding to my post, then
killfiling me AFTERWARDS, so they get the last word in - the ultimate
childishness.

and for a couple or three
posts he sounds quite sane. Then something triggers his characteristic
weirdness, which eventually becomes incomprehensible. About the only
thing you can be sure of is that he hates just about everything that
makes his life in the UK possible and worth living. Except ****ups in
pubs, a method of achieving a pseudo-zen-like absence of thought
peculiar to yobs.

Just because I show common sense and realise that 90% of the
population are idiots....

Take the IQ test. 50% of people have a 2 digit IQ by definition. Have
you ever tried having a conversation with one?

It's high time we let idiots die off instead of protecting them with
benefits, NHS, etc, etc. If you can't survive by yourself, we don't
want you on Earth.


That's Michael Gove level of stupidity. I'd expect better numeracy from
someone with a physics degree.


I assume you're referring to my statement about the IQ test. You do
realise that an IQ of 100 is the average?

___
_/ \_
_/ \_
_/ \_
+
1 99 100 200 --Arlen

50% have 50% have
one or two three
digits digits

Above 200 is considered unmeasurable (there's no "wall" at 200).

Below a certain level, it's probably difficult to measure as well.
It's probably more practical to say 50% have two digits, due to the
inability to measure values from 1..9. We only assume the distribution
has some sort of tail.

I know what my IQ is, because as kids, me and two buddies collected
IQ "test books" containing old IQ test questions and "crammed" for
the school IQ test. And by cramming, you can raise your score for
the purposes of school streaming, by at least 5 points :-) Whatever
my real score was on that day, the measured value would end up being
5 points higher :-) Apple is to Orange as Grape is to: Carrots
I'm pretty sure that's right. Um...

Paul
  #264  
Old January 27th 19, 07:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 18:02:33 -0000, Paul wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:38:50 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:18:20 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-23 05:10, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

[...]
[The NHS definition of hypothermia is] not a definition, it's a
belief, by an organisation that couldn't
organise a ****up in a brewery.

The NHS didn't invent hypothermia. It's an actual thing. Every
Google hit
says the same thing. Here's some actual science...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...23085007000916

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.

"Commander" Kinsey is a special kind of twit. He tries new nyms when he
realises most people have kill-filed him,

You don't get it do you? The killfiling brigade are a bunch of childish
morons. I don't care if someone doesn't like my opinions and killfiles
me, but to jump up and down and publicise that they don't like me is
beyond a joke. And what's worse is responding to my post, then
killfiling me AFTERWARDS, so they get the last word in - the ultimate
childishness.

and for a couple or three
posts he sounds quite sane. Then something triggers his characteristic
weirdness, which eventually becomes incomprehensible. About the only
thing you can be sure of is that he hates just about everything that
makes his life in the UK possible and worth living. Except ****ups in
pubs, a method of achieving a pseudo-zen-like absence of thought
peculiar to yobs.

Just because I show common sense and realise that 90% of the
population are idiots....

Take the IQ test. 50% of people have a 2 digit IQ by definition. Have
you ever tried having a conversation with one?

It's high time we let idiots die off instead of protecting them with
benefits, NHS, etc, etc. If you can't survive by yourself, we don't
want you on Earth.

That's Michael Gove level of stupidity. I'd expect better numeracy from
someone with a physics degree.


I assume you're referring to my statement about the IQ test. You do
realise that an IQ of 100 is the average?

___
_/ \_
_/ \_
_/ \_
+
1 99 100 200 --Arlen

50% have 50% have
one or two three
digits digits

Above 200 is considered unmeasurable (there's no "wall" at 200).

Below a certain level, it's probably difficult to measure as well.
It's probably more practical to say 50% have two digits, due to the
inability to measure values from 1..9. We only assume the distribution
has some sort of tail.


AFAIK it's a standard deviation curve. 50% below 100, 50% above 100. This agrees with what I thought:
https://www.123test.com/interpretation-of-an-iq-score/

I know what my IQ is, because as kids, me and two buddies collected
IQ "test books" containing old IQ test questions and "crammed" for
the school IQ test. And by cramming, you can raise your score for
the purposes of school streaming, by at least 5 points :-) Whatever
my real score was on that day, the measured value would end up being
5 points higher :-) Apple is to Orange as Grape is to: Carrots
I'm pretty sure that's right. Um...


There are plenty free online IQ tests you can do. Try one of those and see how that compares to what you already have.
  #265  
Old January 27th 19, 07:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:39:42 -0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 13:16:08 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

No medicine has ever saved my life.


I thought that until I was rushed into hospital with dangerously low
blood pressure. I was told that people can die with very low blood
pressure. I assume the "cocktail" of drugs in the drip did something
as I was better within a day.


I'll sell you some of mine. I have dangerously high pressure (which they can't fix).

M'colleague used to have dangerously low blood pressure like you - he passed out a few times. No fix for that either, except they noticed he used to run marathons then stopped when he got older. Apparently it's bad for you to suddenly decrease exercise. He was told to go to the gym regularly, and if he wanted to become more lazy, he must do so gradually. He's fine now. I very much doubt they fixed your blood pressure with a drip in one day. If anything they'd have to regularly give you drugs or the problem would simply come back.
  #266  
Old January 27th 19, 07:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 08:42:00 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 22:06:10 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:09:48 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:37:19 -0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 12:44:15 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

You must have really cheap taxis. Every time I've used a taxi it's
cost a bloody fortune.

You must have very cheap cars! Include the depreciation when you do
the arithmetic. My taxi journeys are very short and seldom now I've
given up work. There wasn't that much difference before I gave up
working if I include fuel, depreciation and parking. The parking in
Manchester was £3.00 a hour and it's gone up since I retired. For
commuting taxis only charge for miles unless you want the taxi to hang
around all day. Only very rich people do that or have a chauffeur.

  #267  
Old January 27th 19, 07:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:14:20 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-25 03:42, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 22:06:10 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:09:48 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:37:19 -0000, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 12:44:15 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

You must have really cheap taxis. Every time I've used a taxi it's
cost a bloody fortune.

You must have very cheap cars! Include the depreciation when you do
the arithmetic. My taxi journeys are very short and seldom now I've
given up work. There wasn't that much difference before I gave up
working if I include fuel, depreciation and parking. The parking in
Manchester was £3.00 a hour and it's gone up since I retired. For
commuting taxis only charge for miles unless you want the taxi to hang
around all day. Only very rich people do that or have a chauffeur.

Last time I took a taxi it was £20 for half an hour's journey. It costs
nothing like that to run a car, especially if you're sensible enough not
to buy a new one, then you get bugger all depreciation.

It's not the cost per journey, but the annual cost. It's a balance between
convenience and frequency. If you took that 20 quid journey four times a
week it'll still be cheaper than running anything other than a rust bucket.

Bull****. 80 quid a week for four half hour journeys? Any car is way
cheaper than that. You're talking about £320 a month!

Just think about it, a taxi IS a car. So you're paying for his car AND him.

Yes, but you're only paying for them when you're using them. For a bought
car you're paying for it even when you're *not* using it. Insurance, tax,
depreciation, etc. Ok it's a bit extreme an example, but there are
situations when a taxi is cheaper.

A car costs **** all when you're not using it. It's not wearing out,
it's not using fuel. The only cost is tax and insurance which is bugger
all compared to taxi fares.


Don't forget depreciation. The newer the car the worse it is.

All I'm saying is that a car is always the cheapest option. It depends on
personal circumstances. For most people that means needing a car, but for
some it doesn't.


Commander K makes makes a common mistake: "If I ain't pulling the cash
from my wallet, it ain't costing me anything."


Where else would the cash come from?

A car's capital cost is $X/month whether you drive it or not. For
typical vehicles in N. America the range is about $300 to $600/month.


WTF? Where is that money going? Your car magically takes hundreds of dollars a month without you putting petrol into it or replacing worn parts?

Plus unearned interest, which is doubled if you borrowed the capital to
buy the car.


If you can't afford the car, buy an older one. Do not ever ever borrow money for something.

It's the largest single cost of owning a vehicle. Plus
insurance, registration fees,


Dunno what "registration fees" are. In the UK, I pay £130 a YEAR for insurance, £40 a YEAR for a safety test, £200 a YEAR for road tax. That's it. If I don't use the car at all, there are no parts to replace and no petrol to buy. So that's £370 a YEAR for owning a car I don't use.

and regular maintenance, which add another
$100 to $300 or so per month


No, maintainance is directly proportional to use.

(Insurance varies a lot). Fixed costs: $400
to 900/month. The only variables are fuel, which you can control, and
unscheduled maintenance, which you can't. (All in CAD).

We need vehicles up here in Northern Ontario (the nearest city is 145km,
in the other direction it's 165km). Most of us own SUVs and trucks. I
have relatives in Toronto. If I lived there, I wouldn't own a vehicle.

Footnote: Car dealer ads now quote purchase installments in dollars
"every two weeks", and lately I've seen more and more ads quoting them
in dollars per week. Eg, a Hyundai Tucson at "only" $99/week. Makes it
look more affordable.


Only if you're a fool. Same as people seem to think $99 looks less than $100. It doesn't. It just annoys the customer adding the 1, and waiting for the ****ing change. If anything, $99 looks MORE than $100. All those 9s!
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Old January 27th 19, 10:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:38:50 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:18:20 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-23 05:10, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

[...]
[The NHS definition of hypothermia is] not a definition, it's a
belief, by an organisation that couldn't
organise a ****up in a brewery.

The NHS didn't invent hypothermia. It's an actual thing. Every Google hit
says the same thing. Here's some actual science...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...23085007000916

They take our taxes and can't even cure the common cold.

Wow. That's a special kind of criticism.

"Commander" Kinsey is a special kind of twit. He tries new nyms when he
realises most people have kill-filed him,

You don't get it do you? The killfiling brigade are a bunch of childish
morons. I don't care if someone doesn't like my opinions and killfiles
me, but to jump up and down and publicise that they don't like me is
beyond a joke. And what's worse is responding to my post, then
killfiling me AFTERWARDS, so they get the last word in - the ultimate childishness.

and for a couple or three
posts he sounds quite sane. Then something triggers his characteristic
weirdness, which eventually becomes incomprehensible. About the only
thing you can be sure of is that he hates just about everything that
makes his life in the UK possible and worth living. Except ****ups in
pubs, a method of achieving a pseudo-zen-like absence of thought
peculiar to yobs.

Just because I show common sense and realise that 90% of the population are idiots....

Take the IQ test. 50% of people have a 2 digit IQ by definition. Have
you ever tried having a conversation with one?

It's high time we let idiots die off instead of protecting them with
benefits, NHS, etc, etc. If you can't survive by yourself, we don't want you on Earth.


That's Michael Gove level of stupidity. I'd expect better numeracy from
someone with a physics degree.


I assume you're referring to my statement about the IQ test. You do
realise that an IQ of 100 is the average?


It is a standardised average. Meaning that it is always 100, regardless of
any absolute changes in results. So killing off "idiots" will have exactly
zero effect on average IQ.
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Old January 28th 19, 07:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-27 16:09, Chris wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:

[...]
I assume you're referring to my statement about the IQ test. You do
realise that an IQ of 100 is the average?


It is a standardised average. Meaning that it is always 100, regardless of
any absolute changes in results. So killing off "idiots" will have exactly
zero effect on average IQ.


I recall reading a note a few years ago that claimed that actual
performance on IQ tests had risen about 10 points since the 1940s. IIRC,
similar observations have been reported for SAT and other "objective"
tests. [1]


Yes, *raw* scores are increasing; It's called the Flynn effect.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient



My son once told me that J. Edgar Hoover's method of improving the
service was to fire everybody who was below average. Apparently he
couldn't understand why in the next round of tests there were people who
scored below average. I suspect it's an apocryphal tale, but it
illustrates a common misunderstanding about averages,


Yep. Our minister of education, no less, famously tried to make the claim
that all schools should be above average. With fools like him in charge
it's no surprise we're in a mess.


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Old January 29th 19, 10:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:22:20 -0000, Chris wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 12:32:19 -0000, Chris wrote:

That's why we have medical terms for them: hypothermia and fever.

They're exaggerated. Better terms would be "a bit chilly" or "slightly warm".


Medicine doesn't exaggerate.


Of course it does. It's part of the modern namby pamby health and softy
****e. Wear a seatbelt, keep warm, disinfect everything, watch the
sellby dates, it's pathetic.


And it's why life expectancy is so high.

The side-effect of seatbelts is that we have a shortage of organ donors
from healthy young men wrapping themselves around trees.

If you lived in any other century (other than 20th) you'd already be dead.

No medicine has ever saved my life.


********! The very fact that you're alive is a success. It doesn't have to
have directly affected you: medicine will have kept your mother healthy
during pregnancy and avoided her or you dying during birth or shortly
after.


Pregnancy is a natural phenomenon, we don't need science for it to work.


Look at maternal death rates during childbirth in the 17th/18th centuries.
Humans have a barely positive birthrate without medicine. It is much lower
than in other mammals.

You will have been vaccinated and even if you hadn't your peers would have
been imparting heard immunity which you benefited from directly.


Vaccines kill people, which is why many parents refuse to let heir kids get them.


Vaccines are amongst the safest treatments you can take - hence why we them
to babies and small children - and have saved millions of lives.

Those parents are actively harming their own kids and, worse, others' too.

Good hygiene and sanitation of homes, and the reduction of disease in
animals.


"Hygiene" kills off bacteria which we're supposed to encounter. What's
happening is nobody has a decent immune system anymore.


We encounter plenty of bacteria daily. Hygiene just means we don't get sick
all the time. Especially the young and old.

All the above are examples of where science has contributed to you still
being alive and healthy well into adulthood. Nowadays people are so
accustomed to modern medicine that they don't realise how intrinsic to
their day to day well-being it is.

The anti-vaxxers are finding out, sadly...

In those days,large proportions of people died by the age of 5, simple
illness by today's standards were fatal or were crippling and luge
expectancy was in the 40s. Common diseases like tetanus, TB, small pox,
polio, whooping cough, etc are things of the past (in the UK). Organ
transplants, keyhole surgery, chemotherapy, and other ground breaking drugs
are phenomenal success stories in human health.

No, they're ****ing us up. Because we now rely on medicine for
everything, we're losing our natural immune systems. Plus survival of
the fittest has gone out of the window, people who are made badly and
should be removed from the gene pool are now reproducing and making more useless people.


That's a very unpleasant viewpoint.


But it works. It's called evolution.


No it's called natural selection. Evolution occurs on much longer
timescales and humans are doing very well thank you very much. Including
the "badly made ones".

If we prevent it from happening, we'll all end up completely useless and
reliant on medicine. And half the population will be sapping money from
the rest on invalidity benefits.

A doubling of the average life expectancy in 170 years is as close to a
miracle as is possible with science.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ime/2015-09-09

It's ****. We should be able to live forever by now, I'm not impressed.


Hahahahahahaha! If we didn't die of old age the planet would be overrun and
we'd die of starvation instead.


You're such a ****ing idiot.


I'm not the one claiming we should be immortal.

Every other part of science has come about 10 times further.


Every other science is a piece of **** compared to biology.


Yeah right, look at current CPU design. 10nm dies. 6 trillion
calculations per second on something the size of your fingernail.


Very impressive and very cool.

Yet we can't work out how the human body operates. The problem is not
many people research biology, there isn't money it.


You really have no idea. In the current funding round from the government
until 2020, biology is getting £3.7bn compared to the physical sciences
getting £3.1bn. The Wellcome Trust charity funds primarily biology through
human health research and gives out £900m per year. Other charities like
the British Heart Foundation, Cancer Research UK and many others also fund
biological research to the tune of millions every year. And that's just the
uk. It's the same story across the EU, US and other countries.

Biology is complex primarily because it combines physics and chemistry
within an interconnected ecosystem that generates 2nd and 3rd order
emergent properties which are borderline chaotic and often unpredictable.
It's called "life".

If you poke a tiger with a stick, physics tells you it'll push back on
stick with the same force as you provide. We have very nice equations to
describe it mathematically. Biology tells you it'll probably bite your head
off. There's no equation for that. Both are very real phenomena.

If we ditched government funded stuff like the NHS in the UK, people
would have to pay to get repaired, and companies would start investing in research.


That would guarantee that more people die because they can't access the
healthcare they need. See the broken US system.

 




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