VERY, very slow shutdown

Did you try the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service like Gerry Cornell
suggested?

If not: http://blog.enrii.com/2006/07/20/slo...s-xp-shutdown/

-Dan

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:TFZVg.713$i84.581@trnddc01...
I have talked to a lot of HP Techs now and the system still takes the
IMPOSSIBLE time of 9 Minutes and 27 Seconds to turn off.
No viruses, no adware, recent defrag.

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
1. Don't post in caps. That means you're shouting, and is considered
rude.

2. Since System Restore is not active during shutdown, it has no effect
on how quickly a computer shuts down. However, if the hard disk is almost
full, deleting restore points will free up space which can allow shutdown
to proceed faster.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Sooner_Ironworker wrote:
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE LAPTOP I'M USING
NOW. IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES, 3 SECONDS FOR THE "TURN OFF",
"RESTART", "STANDBY" BUTTON TO COME UP, THEN ONCE PRESSING THE TURN OFF
BUTTON, IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES 42 SECONDS TO COMPLETELY SHUT
DOWN MY COMPUTER.
HERE IS HOW I FIXED IT, AND SINCE MY FIX, I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO
PROBELMS WHATSOEVER:
CLICK AND OPEN YOUR CONTROL PANEL.
CLICK AND OPEN "PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE"
IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND PANEL, CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE"
ON THE LEFT CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE SETTINGS"
IN THE SETTINGS WINDOW CHECK THE BOX FOR "TURN OFF SYSTEM RESTORE"
NOW, RESTART YOUR COMPUTER.
WHEN IT RESTARTS, IT WILL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO TURN SYSTEM RESTORE
BACK ON.
THE SYSTEM RESTORE FILE BECOMES CORRUPTED SOMETIMES, AND THIS PROCEDURE
CLEANS IT OUT.

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the morning
it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy
and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big problem
with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison, running
the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

YES I did download it and install it. Did not do the trick.
Shutdown takes 10 or more minutes.

"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
Did you try the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service like Gerry Cornell
suggested?

If not: http://blog.enrii.com/2006/07/20/slo...s-xp-shutdown/

-Dan

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:TFZVg.713$i84.581@trnddc01...
I have talked to a lot of HP Techs now and the system still takes the
IMPOSSIBLE time of 9 Minutes and 27 Seconds to turn off.
No viruses, no adware, recent defrag.

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
1. Don't post in caps. That means you're shouting, and is considered
rude.

2. Since System Restore is not active during shutdown, it has no effect
on how quickly a computer shuts down. However, if the hard disk is
almost full, deleting restore points will free up space which can allow
shutdown to proceed faster.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Sooner_Ironworker wrote:
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE LAPTOP I'M USING
NOW. IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES, 3 SECONDS FOR THE "TURN OFF",
"RESTART", "STANDBY" BUTTON TO COME UP, THEN ONCE PRESSING THE TURN OFF
BUTTON, IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES 42 SECONDS TO COMPLETELY SHUT
DOWN MY COMPUTER.
HERE IS HOW I FIXED IT, AND SINCE MY FIX, I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO
PROBELMS WHATSOEVER:
CLICK AND OPEN YOUR CONTROL PANEL.
CLICK AND OPEN "PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE"
IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND PANEL, CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE"
ON THE LEFT CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE SETTINGS"
IN THE SETTINGS WINDOW CHECK THE BOX FOR "TURN OFF SYSTEM RESTORE"
NOW, RESTART YOUR COMPUTER.
WHEN IT RESTARTS, IT WILL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO TURN SYSTEM RESTORE
BACK ON.
THE SYSTEM RESTORE FILE BECOMES CORRUPTED SOMETIMES, AND THIS PROCEDURE
CLEANS IT OUT.

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy
and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

Maybe it's an issue of defective hardware then. In this case you'll need to
call HP and have them replace it for you as it is still under warranty if it
is new.

-Dan

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news5aWg.2215$e65.816@trnddc05...
YES I did download it and install it. Did not do the trick.
Shutdown takes 10 or more minutes.

"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
Did you try the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service like Gerry Cornell
suggested?

If not: http://blog.enrii.com/2006/07/20/slo...s-xp-shutdown/

-Dan

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:TFZVg.713$i84.581@trnddc01...
I have talked to a lot of HP Techs now and the system still takes the
IMPOSSIBLE time of 9 Minutes and 27 Seconds to turn off.
No viruses, no adware, recent defrag.

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
...
1. Don't post in caps. That means you're shouting, and is considered
rude.

2. Since System Restore is not active during shutdown, it has no effect
on how quickly a computer shuts down. However, if the hard disk is
almost full, deleting restore points will free up space which can allow
shutdown to proceed faster.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Sooner_Ironworker wrote:
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE LAPTOP I'M USING
NOW. IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES, 3 SECONDS FOR THE "TURN OFF",
"RESTART", "STANDBY" BUTTON TO COME UP, THEN ONCE PRESSING THE TURN
OFF BUTTON, IT WOULD TAKE EXACTLY 2 MINUTES 42 SECONDS TO COMPLETELY
SHUT DOWN MY COMPUTER.
HERE IS HOW I FIXED IT, AND SINCE MY FIX, I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO
PROBELMS WHATSOEVER:
CLICK AND OPEN YOUR CONTROL PANEL.
CLICK AND OPEN "PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE"
IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND PANEL, CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE"
ON THE LEFT CLICK "SYSTEM RESTORE SETTINGS"
IN THE SETTINGS WINDOW CHECK THE BOX FOR "TURN OFF SYSTEM RESTORE"
NOW, RESTART YOUR COMPUTER.
WHEN IT RESTARTS, IT WILL ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO TURN SYSTEM RESTORE
BACK ON.
THE SYSTEM RESTORE FILE BECOMES CORRUPTED SOMETIMES, AND THIS
PROCEDURE CLEANS IT OUT.

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP.
SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy
and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
Maybe it's an issue of defective hardware then. In this case you'll need
to call HP and have them replace it for you as it is still under warranty
if it is new.

-Dan

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention very well (not enough coffee yet). I just
read how your computer shuts down fine in safe mode. Why don't you go into
the System Configuration Utitlity - go to Start - Run, type in msconfig and
press enter. Go to the Startup tab and turn off one thing at a time so that
it doesn't load after the computer starts up. Then once your computer has
shut down properly you will have found your culprit software.

If this doesn't work you can always get a HiJackThis log or an Autoruns log
for us and we can try to figure out if something isn't supossed to be there.

HiJackThis: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/p...php#hijackthis
Autoruns: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html

-Dan

I thank all of you who tried to help. It just did not work.

Here is what I did:

I backed up a lot to another internal harddrive, which I installed.

Then, with some trepidation, I went to HP Restore, the F10 key.

It allowed a restore whith leaving all data files intact (what a great thing
that is, even though I backed it all up). I restored the HP way and all
works fine.

A startup of about 2 minutes and a shutdown of 1 minute.

The Applications I have to re-install, but that is easy, since it kept the
data files.

So, I am now very happy with HP again.

I thought you would want to know this all.


"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
Maybe it's an issue of defective hardware then. In this case you'll need
to call HP and have them replace it for you as it is still under warranty
if it is new.

-Dan

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention very well (not enough coffee yet). I just
read how your computer shuts down fine in safe mode. Why don't you go into
the System Configuration Utitlity - go to Start - Run, type in msconfig
and press enter. Go to the Startup tab and turn off one thing at a time so
that it doesn't load after the computer starts up. Then once your computer
has shut down properly you will have found your culprit software.

If this doesn't work you can always get a HiJackThis log or an Autoruns
log for us and we can try to figure out if something isn't supossed to be
there.

HiJackThis: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/p...php#hijackthis
Autoruns: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html

-Dan

Glad to hear that it's working fine again. I was really looking foreward to
hearing what the exact problem was though. But all's well that ends well.

-Dan

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:F5BWg.1637$Gp4.2@trnddc08...
I thank all of you who tried to help. It just did not work.

Here is what I did:

I backed up a lot to another internal harddrive, which I installed.

Then, with some trepidation, I went to HP Restore, the F10 key.

It allowed a restore whith leaving all data files intact (what a great
thing that is, even though I backed it all up). I restored the HP way and
all works fine.

A startup of about 2 minutes and a shutdown of 1 minute.

The Applications I have to re-install, but that is easy, since it kept the
data files.

So, I am now very happy with HP again.

I thought you would want to know this all.


"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
"LittleMoo" wrote in message
...
Maybe it's an issue of defective hardware then. In this case you'll need
to call HP and have them replace it for you as it is still under
warranty if it is new.

-Dan

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention very well (not enough coffee yet). I
just read how your computer shuts down fine in safe mode. Why don't you
go into the System Configuration Utitlity - go to Start - Run, type in
msconfig and press enter. Go to the Startup tab and turn off one thing at
a time so that it doesn't load after the computer starts up. Then once
your computer has shut down properly you will have found your culprit
software.

If this doesn't work you can always get a HiJackThis log or an Autoruns
log for us and we can try to figure out if something isn't supossed to be
there.

HiJackThis: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/p...php#hijackthis
Autoruns: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html

-Dan

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the morning it
still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy and
Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is also set
to defrag in the background) but it still has this big problem with
shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison, running the
same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

hello r197, you are running way to many anti/ spyware, virus software !
remove all .. is my advise EXCEPT nod 32 thats excellent sortware and remove
diskeeper defrage your own harddrive using maint.s and performances in widow
xp 2 ! click start button.. go to control paneland click on performances and
maintienes and defrag. that way also remove those programs by clicking on
start button go to control panel click on ADD AND REMOVE PROGRAMS . ALL THAT
FREE WARE IS TOO MUCH ! BEST REGUARDS, MICHAEL

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the morning it
still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy and
Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is also set
to defrag in the background) but it still has this big problem with
shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison, running the
same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

ruffjustices wrote:

hello r197, you are running way to many anti/ spyware, virus software
! remove all .. is my advise


Sorry, but that's very poor advice. He's running only a single anti-virus
program, and that's good. He's running multiple anti-spyware programs and
that's also good.

Note what Eric Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware
products, states:

"No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the best-performing
anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one quarter of the
"critical" files and Registry entries" See
http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



EXCEPT nod 32 thats excellent sortware
and remove diskeeper defrage your own harddrive using maint.s and
performances in widow xp 2 ! click start button.. go to control
paneland click on performances and maintienes and defrag. that way
also remove those programs by clicking on start button go to control
panel click on ADD AND REMOVE PROGRAMS . ALL THAT FREE WARE IS TOO
MUCH ! BEST REGUARDS, MICHAEL

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP.
SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy
and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL ,
DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR COMPUTER you can
all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING.. I'AM
RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL 3100 P4 HT 2.8 GHZ, genrally you want
less than 50 applications running in back ground. mike
ruffjustices" wrote:

hello r197, you are running way to many anti/ spyware, virus software !
remove all .. is my advise EXCEPT nod 32 thats excellent sortware and remove
diskeeper defrage your own harddrive using maint.s and performances in widow
xp 2 ! click start button.. go to control paneland click on performances and
maintienes and defrag. that way also remove those programs by clicking on
start button go to control panel click on ADD AND REMOVE PROGRAMS . ALL THAT
FREE WARE IS TOO MUCH ! BEST REGUARDS, MICHAEL

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the morning it
still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy and
Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is also set
to defrag in the background) but it still has this big problem with
shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison, running the
same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

Ritter197 wrote:
I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP.
SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and
destroy and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a
problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

ruffjustices wrote:
i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL ,
DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR COMPUTER
you can all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE
RUNNING.. I'AM RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL 3100 P4 HT 2.8
GHZ, genrally you want less than 50 applications running in back
ground. mike

Unfortunately - your advice is based off no knowledge.
Nothing (mentioned by the OP) other than the AntiVirus (NOD32) is actively
running anywhere until it is manually ran by the user.
This means there are no extra processes running in the background.

As far as your generality (# of applications running)... some people
actually utilize their systems. =)

To me - after following the thread in its entirity - the problem is a
hardware one. Of course the only way to actually prove (to the
manufacturer) this would be to make a disk image "as-is", format with
nothing but Windows XP and all patches and see if it runs okay. If it
does.. Start adding things back slowly. If you never get a slowdown -
something was infesting your computer - but it's okay now. If you get the
slowdown immediately - it is hardware or cruddy drivers. At least you have
the full backup.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Thanks to all who wanted to help. I tried all (or mostly all) your
recommendations. Nothing seemed to help.
What DID help is to use the RESTORE Program which HP bundles with their
computer. It even allows one option which keeps all data. That was great. I
used it and all problems are finally solved.

Shutdown is normal in under 1 minute again. So, it was a software probem all
along, which is what I suspected.

Regards and thanks again

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Ritter197 wrote:
I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP.
SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and
destroy and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a
problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is
also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

ruffjustices wrote:
i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL ,
DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR COMPUTER
you can all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE
RUNNING.. I'AM RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL 3100 P4 HT 2.8
GHZ, genrally you want less than 50 applications running in back
ground. mike

Unfortunately - your advice is based off no knowledge.
Nothing (mentioned by the OP) other than the AntiVirus (NOD32) is actively
running anywhere until it is manually ran by the user.
This means there are no extra processes running in the background.

As far as your generality (# of applications running)... some people
actually utilize their systems. =)

To me - after following the thread in its entirity - the problem is a
hardware one. Of course the only way to actually prove (to the
manufacturer) this would be to make a disk image "as-is", format with
nothing but Windows XP and all patches and see if it runs okay. If it
does.. Start adding things back slowly. If you never get a slowdown -
something was infesting your computer - but it's okay now. If you get the
slowdown immediately - it is hardware or cruddy drivers. At least you
have the full backup.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Ritter197 wrote:
I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP.
SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the
morning it still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and
destroy and Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a
problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it
is also set to defrag in the background) but it still has this big
problem with shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison,
running the same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?

ruffjustices wrote:
i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL
, DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR
COMPUTER you can all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY
PROGRAMS ARE RUNNING.. I'AM RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL
3100 P4 HT 2.8 GHZ, genrally you want less than 50 applications
running in back
ground. mike

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Unfortunately - your advice is based off no knowledge.
Nothing (mentioned by the OP) other than the AntiVirus (NOD32) is
actively running anywhere until it is manually ran by the user.
This means there are no extra processes running in the background.

As far as your generality (# of applications running)... some
people actually utilize their systems. =)

To me - after following the thread in its entirity - the problem
is a hardware one. Of course the only way to actually prove (to
the manufacturer) this would be to make a disk image "as-is",
format with nothing but Windows XP and all patches and see if it
runs okay. If it does.. Start adding things back slowly. If you
never get a slowdown - something was infesting your computer - but
it's okay now. If you get the slowdown immediately - it is
hardware or cruddy drivers. At least you have the full backup.

Ritter197 wrote:
Thanks to all who wanted to help. I tried all (or mostly all) your
recommendations. Nothing seemed to help.
What DID help is to use the RESTORE Program which HP bundles with
their computer. It even allows one option which keeps all data.
That was great. I used it and all problems are finally solved.

Shutdown is normal in under 1 minute again. So, it was a software
probem all along, which is what I suspected.

Regards and thanks again

So essentially what boils down to a Repair Installation of Windows XP.
Interesting.

Glad your problem is resolved - hope it stays that way. My experience with
Repair Installs being what they are... I suggest backing up your system
often.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

ruffjustices wrote:

i like you to remove all that EXCESS free spyware AND ANIT VIRAL ,
DISKKEEPER and excess software RUNNING SLOWING DOWN YOUR COMPUTER
you can all so check the TASK MANGER AND SEE HOW MANY PROGRAMS ARE
RUNNING.. I'AM RUNNING 59 1% CPU USAGE I HAVE DELL 3100 P4 HT 2.8
GHZ, genrally you want less than 50 applications running in back
ground. mike


Over and above what Shenan Stanley points out, the *number* of programs
running, whether in the background or the foreground, is completely
irrelevant. What is significant is *which* programs you have running. Some
of them can certainly slow you down considerably, but others have no
perceptible impact on performance. A dozen of the latter kind will have less
effect on performance than one of the former.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

try first menu bar (rght click) taskmanager( ctr+alt+del) end all existing
applications shown, then try again with shutdown, if this doesn't work you
can try a program called "enditall" search the web, this will close all
programs running ans then close the computer.... most of time as aall will
say it's background progs that aren' shut down.

"Ritter197" wrote:

I have gotten a new 4400+ HP computer, dual core, with WindowsXP. SP#2

It takes sometimes forever (last night I went to bed and in the morning it
still had not shut down)

I have run 3 different programs (Ad-aware, Spybot search and destroy and
Adware away) plus an AV program NOD32. None find a problem.

I have also run a defrag with Diskkeeper 10 two days ago, ( it is also set
to defrag in the background) but it still has this big problem with
shutdown.

My 2.8Ghz computer shuts down almost immediately by comparison, running the
same Windows XP, SP #2 and many more programs.

What are your ideas here ?