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  #16  
Old May 24th 10, 07:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc

W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?

Any thoughts?


I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--



Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I just
install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.


Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need for
SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to copyright
reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may upgrade to SP3.

(Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to allow for XP Gold to
be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


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  #17  
Old May 24th 10, 07:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Posts: 2,461
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc

W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?

Any thoughts?


I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--



Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I just
install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.


Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need for
SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to copyright
reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may upgrade to SP3.

(Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to allow for XP Gold to
be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


  #18  
Old May 24th 10, 10:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
W****n S.
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Posts: 28
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc


"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?

Any thoughts?

I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--



Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I just
install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.


Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first version,
without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need for SP1a
(SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to copyright reasons
involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may upgrade to SP3.

(Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to allow for XP Gold to
be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your original
installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no service packs
and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am Golden.

Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.


  #19  
Old May 24th 10, 10:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
W****n S.
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Posts: 28
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc


"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?

Any thoughts?

I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--



Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I just
install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.


Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first version,
without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need for SP1a
(SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to copyright reasons
involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may upgrade to SP3.

(Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to allow for XP Gold to
be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your original
installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no service packs
and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am Golden.

Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.


  #20  
Old May 24th 10, 11:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Posts: 2,461
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc

W****n S. wrote:
"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen
when support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support
stops? Any thoughts?

I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--


Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I
just install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.


Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need
for SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to
copyright reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may
upgrade to SP3. (Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to
allow for XP
Gold to be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no
service packs and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am
Golden.
Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.


You're very welcome.

Once you are at SP3 and have installed all the subsequent security
patches (there are dozens!) and all your programs, that would be great
time to create an image of your C: drive. Once this is done, you won't
have a need to perform a Clean Install ever again. If you ever need to
"start fresh," simply restore the image. Much easier!

If you need a free program to do this, DriveImageXML does the trick.
However, you will also need to create your own bootable rescue CD like
UBCD4Win or BartPE if there comes a time when you need to restore the
image:

http://www.runtime.org/peb.htm

An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and
whistles like Acronis True Image.


  #21  
Old May 24th 10, 11:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,461
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc


W****n S. wrote:
"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen
when support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support
stops? Any thoughts?

I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--


Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I
just install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.


Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need
for SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to
copyright reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may
upgrade to SP3. (Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to
allow for XP
Gold to be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no
service packs and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am
Golden.
Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.


You're very welcome.

Once you are at SP3 and have installed all the subsequent security
patches (there are dozens!) and all your programs, that would be great
time to create an image of your C: drive. Once this is done, you won't
have a need to perform a Clean Install ever again. If you ever need to
"start fresh," simply restore the image. Much easier!

If you need a free program to do this, DriveImageXML does the trick.
However, you will also need to create your own bootable rescue CD like
UBCD4Win or BartPE if there comes a time when you need to restore the
image:

http://www.runtime.org/peb.htm

An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and
whistles like Acronis True Image.


  #22  
Old May 25th 10, 12:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
W****n S.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 28
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc


"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen
when support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support
stops? Any thoughts?

I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--


Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I
just install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.

Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need
for SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to
copyright reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may
upgrade to SP3. (Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to
allow for XP
Gold to be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no
service packs and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am
Golden.
Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.


You're very welcome.

Once you are at SP3 and have installed all the subsequent security patches
(there are dozens!) and all your programs, that would be great time to
create an image of your C: drive. Once this is done, you won't have a need
to perform a Clean Install ever again. If you ever need to "start fresh,"
simply restore the image. Much easier!

If you need a free program to do this, DriveImageXML does the trick.
However, you will also need to create your own bootable rescue CD like
UBCD4Win or BartPE if there comes a time when you need to restore the
image:

http://www.runtime.org/peb.htm

An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and whistles
like Acronis True Image.


I use the Acronis True image from Western Digital's web site. It works ok
and is free if you have their hard drives installed etc etc.

Thx again.........


  #23  
Old May 25th 10, 12:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
W****n S.
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Posts: 28
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc


"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Daave" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
W****n S. wrote:
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come
out ok but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it
had loaded most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen
when support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update
it from there or will there be issues with this once support
stops? Any thoughts?

I am sure Windows XP SP1a, SP2 and SP3 will be available for
download long after the extended support period ends.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
--
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/
(Phases of the Support Lifecycle)
--


Not to be a thorn, but I am finding that SP1 is not easy to find. I
was able to find SP1a but no good links to SP1.

If I download SP2 do I need SP1 or SP1a to install it? Or can I
just install SP2 after a vanilla XP Home install??

Thanks again for the time.

Presumably by "vanilla XP Home" you mean XP Gold (i.e., the first
version, without any Service Packs).

You may upgrade that directly to SP2. This means there is no need
for SP1a (SP1 is no longer available on the MS Web site due to
copyright reasons involving Java). Once you are at SP2, you may
upgrade to SP3. (Unfortunately, Microsoft didn't seem to be able to
allow for XP
Gold to be upgraded directly to SP3.)

The other upgrade path is Gold to SP1a to SP3.

Then again, if you are able to successfully integrate SP3 to your
original installation CD, you'll already be there. ;-)


Hey thanks. Yes, I have a "Gold" XP Home install disc with no
service packs and if I can go from that to SP2 then I guess I am
Golden.
Then SP3 is a no brainer at that point.

Thanks for the insight.


You're very welcome.

Once you are at SP3 and have installed all the subsequent security patches
(there are dozens!) and all your programs, that would be great time to
create an image of your C: drive. Once this is done, you won't have a need
to perform a Clean Install ever again. If you ever need to "start fresh,"
simply restore the image. Much easier!

If you need a free program to do this, DriveImageXML does the trick.
However, you will also need to create your own bootable rescue CD like
UBCD4Win or BartPE if there comes a time when you need to restore the
image:

http://www.runtime.org/peb.htm

An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and whistles
like Acronis True Image.


I use the Acronis True image from Western Digital's web site. It works ok
and is free if you have their hard drives installed etc etc.

Thx again.........


  #24  
Old May 25th 10, 02:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
LVTravel
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Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc



"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
LVTravel wrote:


"W****n S." wrote in message
...
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come out ok
but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it had loaded
most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update it
from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?

Any thoughts?

Thx,

WS


I really don't know why everyone is so afraid that the SPs and already
created fixes for XP will not be available when the support ends in 2014.
MS still has all service packs and fixes available for Win 2000 on their
servers for download and that support ended a really long time ago.


Windows 2000 is in extended support until June of this year.

John


But all fixes for almost every operating system and program that Microsoft
ever wrote, bought or *sto..* is on their web site somewhere. Just have to
look for it.

  #25  
Old May 25th 10, 02:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
LVTravel
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Posts: 669
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc




"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
LVTravel wrote:


"W****n S." wrote in message
...
I tried this already with image burn and the disc seemed to come out ok
but when I tried to use the disc it gave me a BSOD after it had loaded
most of the files.

I am trying to do this because I am wondering what will happen when
support is stopped for XP prior to SP3.

Will a person still be able to use a vanilla disc and then update it
from there or will there be issues with this once support stops?

Any thoughts?

Thx,

WS


I really don't know why everyone is so afraid that the SPs and already
created fixes for XP will not be available when the support ends in 2014.
MS still has all service packs and fixes available for Win 2000 on their
servers for download and that support ended a really long time ago.


Windows 2000 is in extended support until June of this year.

John


But all fixes for almost every operating system and program that Microsoft
ever wrote, bought or *sto..* is on their web site somewhere. Just have to
look for it.

  #26  
Old May 25th 10, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,461
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc

W****n S. wrote:
"Daave" wrote in message
...


An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and
whistles like Acronis True Image.


I use the Acronis True image from Western Digital's web site. It
works ok and is free if you have their hard drives installed etc etc.


Sounds good.

Thx again.........


YW.


  #27  
Old May 25th 10, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,461
Default merge SP3 into a vanilla XP disc

W****n S. wrote:
"Daave" wrote in message
...


An alternative is to use a commercial program with more bells and
whistles like Acronis True Image.


I use the Acronis True image from Western Digital's web site. It
works ok and is free if you have their hard drives installed etc etc.


Sounds good.

Thx again.........


YW.


 




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